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I switched to Affinity and Pixelmator Pro on iPad and Mac and it saved me so much money. You can basically do the same things for a few bucks. The only huge problem I have with iOS devices is, that you can’t calibrate the screen. I mean seriously, what’s the problem to make it compatible with some kind of spider colorimeter? I can’t trust the ipad to have real colors.
What do you do for raw conversion? I’m not a fan of affinity’s processing (basic tone adjustments). Would like to use Photos, and then export to affinity. But the lack of Photos raw to tiff handling is a deal breaker.
 
They quite obviously did not open a 12k x 12k px 3Gb PSD file. Such files can not exist as the PSD format can't deal with that many pixels in either direction nor with files larger than 2Gb. It doesn't have enough fingers to count on.

The file was either smaller or someone has translated "Photoshop file" to "PSD" in error when they should have left it untranslated or found out whether it was actually a TIFF or a "Photoshop Large Document PSB" file, both of which can deal with files that large.


Don't shoot the messenger. This was from the keynote.
 
Yes, $19.99 a month for each program.

I refuse to pay a subscription for software, I rather just buy it like we were once able to.

Check out Affinity, i've switched to it and have like 6 years on Photoshop / Illustrator, i love it. one time purchase.
 
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You know Affinity, and many other apps, can save standard file formats? Like PNG or JPG or PSD for bitmaps. Or PDF or EPS for vector. The app used to create those files is largely irrelevant.

I'd like to see numbers to back up your industry claim. Apps like Affinity and Sketch are used to some degree in almost every modern agency I've done work for in recent years. The days of Adobe only studios is long gone in my experience.
Numbers, How can you get that? lol
If you are a seasoned pro in motion graphics, film, graphic design, print design, interactive, advertising, etc. All these industries use Adobe and the pros are very aware of that. You might find a few shops that use Affinity but I am positive they also use Adobe.
I would love serious competition for Adobe because that would benefit the users but unfortunately, Adobe has a pretty strong grasp and I don't see it changing soon.
 
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I really don't understand why everyone is clamoring for a "full" version of Photoshop for the iPad. Photoshop for the iPad should be FOR the iPad. I use PS on a desktop workstation in my workflow everyday. I don't know what everyone else's PS workflow is, but if I had to do mine on an iPad, I'd consider blowing my brains out.

Sorry, but despite what Apple's marketing department and a few deluded starry-eyed folks may be trying to convince us of, the iPad is much better suited for consumption, much less for creation. The opposite is mostly true of desktops, and laptops are the compromise. I don't see anything changing that in the near future, at all, no matter what Apple or progressive fan-boys may try to tell us.
 
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I really don't understand why everyone is clamoring for a "full" version of Photoshop for the iPad. Photoshop for the iPad should be FOR the iPad. I use PS on a desktop workstation in my workflow everyday. I don't know what everyone else's PS workflow is, but if I had to do mine on an iPad, I'd consider blowing my brains out.

Sorry, but despite what Apple's marketing department and a few deluded starry-eyed folks may be trying to convince us of, the iPad is much better suited for consumption, much less for creation. The opposite is mostly true of desktops, and laptops are the compromise. I don't see anything changing that in the near future, at all, no matter what Apple or progressive fan-boys may try to tell us.

All depends on your workflow I guess. If I have a number of images I need to edit quickly, I prefer to use the desktop. For spending more time on an image, I much prefer working on the iPad with the Pencil In Affinity Photo.
 
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Yes, $19.99 a month for each program.
Its 19,99/mo for for the first program, 49.99/mo for rhe entire suite
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Sorry, but despite what Apple's marketing department and a few deluded starry-eyed folks may be trying to convince us of, the iPad is much better suited for consumption, much less for creation,
I agree with this sentiment for everything--except art. ipad's graphics and pencil make this a top of class technology, if you can deal with the smaller size.
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Don't shoot the messenger. This was from the keynote.
This was impressive--thanks for posting
 
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I am against subscription services/apps , but in the case of complex and advanced apps, I am ok to pay $20/month for Adobe CS on the opposite of $1000 upfront.

Let us not forget, that apps today are a continous work. Features, bug fixes, and compatibility are rolled out on monthly basis. Operating systems are updated annually and so is the software/apps gets updated.
 
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I really don't understand why everyone is clamoring for a "full" version of Photoshop for the iPad. Photoshop for the iPad should be FOR the iPad. I use PS on a desktop workstation in my workflow everyday. I don't know what everyone else's PS workflow is, but if I had to do mine on an iPad, I'd consider blowing my brains out.

Sorry, but despite what Apple's marketing department and a few deluded starry-eyed folks may be trying to convince us of, the iPad is much better suited for consumption, much less for creation. The opposite is mostly true of desktops, and laptops are the compromise. I don't see anything changing that in the near future, at all, no matter what Apple or progressive fan-boys may try to tell us.
I don’t understand why people are upset that Adobe is making Photoshop for iPad.

Nobody is forcing you to use it and nothing is happening to change your existing workflow. Why get upset at those people who might find this very useful for their workflow?

Oh, and calling people fanboys doesn’t make your argument any more credible.
 
Proves again, since macOS 10.0 adobe did not built any good version, it’s all “old” code what they try to polish... Don”t get me wrong, i use photoshop since version 2.5. Love it but stoped upgrading since they introduced the cloud version. It’s just not good enough anymore. And all the new features... well if you can photoshop you could probably do even a better job yourself than photoshop.

So no, i will never try the iPad version. (Same for illustrator)
 

Gruber's post reads like it was mostly written by Adobe. Is this native advertising damage-control?

Beware Gruber. I generally agree with his take, but he’s been increasingly nutty at times as of late. Conflicts?
 
I’m sure they believe this, and they want it to be true.

Problem is they are years behind. And the competitors, who are less expensive and without subscriptions, will not stand still, And they are awesome today.

Yes, Adobe will make a lot of money because they will bundle and because of file compatibility, but my guess is the throne is lost.
Question: Is there any alternative to InDesign for Mac or iOS (iPads)?
I'm still on the last full software purchase for InDesign (6.0) and I refuse to purchase a subscription — it is not cost-effective for the consumer or small business.

But the latest versions of MacOS (and I'm only on 10.13; I haven't moved up to 10.14 precisely because of this, much less 10.15) have begun to 'break' compatibility with my Adobe programs. And I plan to upgrade in the next year...so I need to find an InDesign replacement. If I can also replace Photoshop and Illustrator, so much the better.

All insight would be appreciated!
 
I don’t understand why people are upset that Adobe is making Photoshop for iPad.

Nobody is forcing you to use it and nothing is happening to change your existing workflow. Why get upset at those people who might find this very useful for their workflow?

Oh, and calling people fanboys doesn’t make your argument any more credible.

Because they fear and feel threatened by this brave new world that a resurgence in iPad productivity promises to usher in. To which I say “Good!”.

The crux of all of these is that in times of platform shifts, there are two types of people. There are people that embrace the shift, perhaps out of enthusiasm, fandom, or maybe just because they don’t know any better. Then there are people that do know better, but just see the challenges in changing and use those challenges to anchor criticism.

And I do find that much of the criticism really misses the mark. Work isn’t binary. Not everyone fits so nicely into the label of “creator” or “consumer” but instead, are constantly in flux between the two. Not everyone needs the full functionality of the aforementioned desktop apps. If anything, their complexity may well end up being more of a liability than a boon here.

This is about a shift to a “modern mobile” computing platform from hardware to software and the cultural changes that surround that.

Look around you. The platform is here. The apps are already here. All that is left is the cultural change that will permit the technology change to happen. And my view is that this shift is now in full swing and we will very quickly see a world where many many people can and will be tablet first, or tablet only.
 
Nope. Adobe and their subscription model is one of the main reasons I sold all my DSLR gear and gave up my photography hobby, choosing instead to upgrade my iPhone camera yearly. I now content myself with taking and editing my pics on my new iPhone.
 
Nope. Adobe and their subscription model is one of the main reasons I sold all my DSLR gear and gave up my photography hobby, choosing instead to upgrade my iPhone camera yearly. I now content myself with taking and editing my pics on my new iPhone.

That's rather drastic. Just sayin...
 
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I don’t understand why people are upset that Adobe is making Photoshop for iPad.
No one is upset about Photoshop on iPad. Some are critical that it is not full Photoshop.
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I am against subscription services/apps , but in the case of complex and advanced apps, I am ok to pay $20/month for Adobe CS on the opposite of $1000 upfront.
Its a value proposition. $360 is a chunk of change. If your using it as a professional its cheap--for a
student/amateur--maybe yes, maybe no. Affinty Designer is good, it might be better if they had
subscription income stream
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Nope. Adobe and their subscription model is one of the main reasons I sold all my DSLR gear and gave up my photography hobby, choosing instead to upgrade my iPhone camera yearly. I now content myself with taking and editing my pics on my new iPhone.
You get what you pay for--and I think the iphone is an amazing value
 
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That's rather drastic. Just sayin...
Not really. The three other reasons were: 1). I almost never had my camera and equipment with me when “that perfect shot” presented itself, where my phone was ALWAYS there, 2). All of my gear was very heavy to carry around, and 3). I retired early and took a financial scalpel to all unnecessary expenses. My only three remaining subscriptions are Netflix (likely to be cut shortly), Amazon Prime (use it frequently), and my Apple iCloud storage ($0.99/monthly). Everything else is pay-as-I-go.
 
Not really. The three other reasons were: 1). I almost never had my camera and equipment with me when “that perfect shot” presented itself, where my phone was ALWAYS there, 2). All of my gear was very heavy to carry around, and 3). I retired early and took a financial scalpel to all unnecessary expenses. My only three remaining subscriptions are Netflix (likely to be cut shortly), Amazon Prime (use it frequently), and my Apple iCloud storage ($0.99/monthly). Everything else is pay-as-I-go.

These 3 reasons make sense. If it was just Photoshop something like Affinity Photo is a minimal, one time purchase.

When I retire I look forward to taking more pictures with my camera!
 
No one is upset about Photoshop on iPad. Some are critical that it is not full Photoshop.
I don’t necessarily see that as a bad thing.

Not everyone needs the full functionality that photoshop has to offer, as evidenced by apps like infinity photo and Pixelmator. I am reminded of the girl who illustrated a story book using the Procreate app on her ipad. What was most striking is that the enabler here was the simplicity afford by said app, which got all the complex and confusing UI out of the way and allowed her to focus on just draw - which was what truly mattered.

What we should be excited for is the democratisation of content creation tools. I continue to believe that the ipad is the best platform for this paradigm shift to take place, given the mobility it offers, coupled with long battery life and a great app ecosystem. A touchscreen also abstracts away a barrier that was inserting itself between users and their content that was caused by the conventional keyboard and mouse setup (efficient as it may be).

“Full desktop functionality” ought to be a term that is both shunned and dreaded when it comes to ipad ports, not celebrated, IMO.
 
“Full desktop functionality” ought to be a term that is both shunned and dreaded when it comes to ipad ports, not celebrated, IMO.
I agree with the spirit of your remark--ios apps, like the ipad itself can be desktop complements rather
than replacements. But I think Adobe claimed "full photoshop" was coming to ios. So people are upset.
A desktop app that did translate almost intact to ios is Clip Studio--which I find a confusing mess, although
with interesting functionality
 
What we should be excited for is the democratisation of content creation tools.

I find this amusing since the reality is that we are going in the opposite direction.

Subscriptions, hardware and software exclusivity, etc.

Anything but democratisation.
 
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