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Adobe Brings Photoshop Lightroom 4 to Mac App Store

alphaod said:
I actually fine with downloading apps outside of the Mac app store. I think it's just a convenience. I don't really see why the big developers need to embrace Apple's marketplace model.
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I would be happy, if Mac App Store were even more popular. I mean, come on... In iPhone/iPad App Store there are tons of professional, useful apps for 1 dollar or even for free. What's in Mac App Store for free? Maybe MplayerX and Unarchiver, but the rest is ******, worthless wallpaper changer and cleaner utilities, or low quality games, etc...

This market is not worthy enough for the developers to make really good apps, or I don't know, but there's a huge quality difference between iOS App Store and Mac App Store. And it shouldn't be like that... not to mention, that why is iOS App Store placed in iTunes Store on the Mac even in 2012?? It doesn't make any sense, all the App Stores should be unified in one common interface.

I'm really forward to see a quality leap in Mac App Store in the near future. More and more people who already have some iOS device are buying Macs nowadays. Even in not so rich countries. And what do these people expect when they see the familiar App Store icon on the dock? "Oh, App Store, I know that, tons of cheap and good quality programs, let's check it out!". Reality: Oh ****, wallpaper changer and disk monitoring app for like 10 dollars, and nothing useful in the free section...

It shouldn't be this way!
 
Does this mean the end of the Adobe junkware that usually comes with their apps?
I installed Photoshop CS6 and got all kinds of rubbish with it including Adobe Air.

If the App Store cleans this up then i'm all for it.
 
Well it looks like UK people are getting screwed by Adobe again as this isn't on sale in the UK. Let me guess, "UK Adobe Lightroom $250/£150".

Typical.
 
Abazigal said:
Barring the initial investment on developing the software (usually man-hours), it doesn't really cost anything to distribute it online.

Adobe simply realises that it is better to sell more copies, each at a smaller profit, than limit your channels and not have any revenue streams at all. :)
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Well yeah... I knew that. :)

After the software is finished... they're just selling copies at that point. But they do continue working on updates and future versions.

It does seem like they are lowering the price to make it more attractive... which is great!
 
Java

Don't Lightroom and Photoshop Elements contain Java code? (I know the full Photoshop does.) And isn't that against the App Store's policy? Just wondering...
 
If I were a manufacturer of software of any clout I d tell apple to go eff themselves and not sell from the mac app store. 30% fixed cut? Are they joking? For what? For storing a file on their server? For the review space? There might be some rationale for a cut in ios devices but what's the rationale of a 30% cut on the mac? If apple want to offer a service to their users where they can purchase with relative safety and ease on the mac, as well as see everything together they should forego the 30%, it's simply ludicrously high, and it benefits neither the dev nor the end user who has to pay more for apple to cover the cut, but only big fat filthy rich apple.
 
mb21 said:
Don't Lightroom and Photoshop Elements contain Java code? (I know the full Photoshop does.) And isn't that against the App Store's policy? Just wondering...
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No, you have to install Java seperately from the Adobe app to run Photoshop.
 
Interesting move.

I won't be picking it up for the same reason i have stuck with aperture. I just don't like the lightroom workflow.
 
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I keep getting tempted to buy Lightroom (I had the beta).

Does a license just cover the one machine/platform? Or can I install it on a Mac and a PC?
 
Imbalance said:
Well it looks like UK people are getting screwed by Adobe again as this isn't on sale in the UK. Let me guess, "UK Adobe Lightroom $250/£150".

Typical.
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I feel you maybe correct there Imbalance. Ive just started using LR4 on the trial after having used Aperture 3 for a long time. Just seeing if its a better option that Aperture. Im kinda of liking it but the price we pay in the UK is ridiculous. Its no wonder Apple has billions in the bank!
I know tax etc has a lot to do with it but like for like pricing would help the UK consumer aswell as our Oz cousins! Apple TV is a classic example 99 bucks in the US 99 quid here in the UK. Not even that can stop our appetite for Apple products though!
 
Westyfield2 said:
Does a license just cover the one machine/platform? Or can I install it on a Mac and a PC?
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If you buy via Adobe.com (as a download) or on disk you can move the license between OS X and Windows (both installers are on the same disk/download image); if you buy from the Mac App Store, you can only use on OS X.
 
Starship77 said:
Well, you get a license for 5 machines for the same price. I think it's a better deal.
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Not when you also need the Windows version of Lightroom. When you buy the software from Adobe, you can choose your platform.

Also, technically the AppStore licenses are still HOME USER licenses. Not that anybody here on this forum cares about that, but companies -must- care and won't buy software from the AppStore anyway because of the licensing issues.
 
scottsjack said:
I know I'm one of the crazy, paranoid ones but I'm OK with Adobe telling me that I can use my licensed software on two machines. What I'm not comfortable with is Apple telling me which machines I can run my software on.

Plus, Adobe worked pretty hard on LR4. Why should Apple suck up $45.00. They've really done nothing to earn it except be there. I've bought a couple of cheapie apps from the App Store but everything else I get from the source if possible. That way the devs get the money they worked hard for and deserve.

Apps like A Better Finder Rename and Ripit probably don't come from really rich companies. Let Apple supply great computers and I'll find my own software.
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Apple provides exposure for companies by putting their apps in the App Store. Granted, Adobe is one of the largest software companies in the world, so in their case, exposure is not much of a factor. But apps like A Better Finder are exposed to a much larger potential audience by being in the app store as opposed to being found by a random Google search. For these smaller companies who might never be found without the Apple store exposure, a 30 percent sales loss is better than the 100 percent hit they take by not being found and not making a sale at all.
 
Winni said:
Not when you also need the Windows version of Lightroom. When you buy the software from Adobe, you can choose your platform.

Also, technically the AppStore licenses are still HOME USER licenses. Not that anybody here on this forum cares about that, but companies -must- care and won't buy software from the AppStore anyway because of the licensing issues.
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So what would happen if a photography studio installed this on three employees macs using the same account? Could the licence be revoked?
 
Yes! Yes! Yes!

I'm buying it.

PS: Why are people constantly complaining about Apples 30% cut. They've built the store and attracted the customers. Secondly they are hosting the software on huge server farms built for the purpose, handeling the transission of the money and they are highlighting/featuring and marketing Apps within and outside the store.

All that is worth a lot to anyone selling software.
It could be argued that the 30% cut is too much on expensive apps. Apple lives to keep things simple though (and I'm not going to complain about that).
 
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irishgrizzly said:
So what would happen if a photography studio installed this on three employees macs using the same account? Could the licence be revoked?
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From the MAS T&C's
(i) If you are an individual acting in your personal capacity, you may download and use an application from the Mac App Store (“Mac App Store Product”) for personal, non-commercial use on any Apple-branded products running Mac OS X (“Mac Computer”) that you own or control.

(ii) If you are a commercial enterprise or educational institution, you may download a Mac App Store Product for use by either (a) a single individual on each of the Mac Computer(s) used by that individual that you own or control or (b) multiple individuals on a single shared Mac Computer that you own or control. For example, a single employee may use a Mac App Store Product on both the employee’s desktop Mac Computer and laptop Mac Computer, or multiple students may serially use a Mac App Store Product on a single Mac Computer located at a resource center or library. For the sake of clarity, each Mac Computer used serially by multiple users requires a separate license.
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LR4 don't buy it from any place!

too bad this won't help LR4 the product because its a DOG. Adobe screwed up BIG time with this product as evidenced in their forums and other places. Too bad you couldn't just buy 3.6 because that was a solid product.
 
andy603 said:
too bad this won't help LR4 the product because its a DOG. Adobe screwed up BIG time with this product as evidenced in their forums and other places. Too bad you couldn't just buy 3.6 because that was a solid product.
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RC2 is a good stable version so adobe is working on the short comings. Its the best DAM product out there and while there are some performance issues being reported Adobe has a good track record for issuing updates
 
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