I really really like the idea of using an ipad as an extension of the computer, makes me a lot more likely to buy one, 1/2 for the usefulness 1/2 for the pure cool factor
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Adobe Considers Possibilities for iPhone and iPad Integration With Photoshop
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This is true, but it is definitely a smart decision for Adobe. With Apple potentially killing off flash, Adobe has to find news ways to evolve. With a stylus, this could be awesome for photographers editing on the road, but like you said, for those who are professional, this does not seem like a good workflow decision. Definitely something to continue to look at in the future.
This is true, but it is definitely a smart decision for Adobe. With Apple potentially killing off flash, Adobe has to find news ways to evolve. With a stylus, this could be awesome for photographers editing on the road, but like you said, for those who are professional, this does not seem like a good workflow decision. Definitely something to continue to look at in the future.
Considering Adobe's demonic and prohibitive licensing history and their penchant for bloatware, I hope the Photoshop Touch application comes fully accessorized with a dedicated 3G network uplink and an attached 1TB hard drive. Otherwise, this whole exercise is academic.
How would this be good for editing on the road? Without your regular computer (Desktop or Laptop) the iPad app adobe is putting together is useless as it is not a standalone app.
I think they're expecting you to use it plugged in. Seems silly to have your iPad at your desk an not have it USBd up anyway.Mmh... Interesting.... But... What about battery life?!?!????
The number of posts I see about a stylus not being available for the iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch amazes me. SJ announced that one was available at the keynote launch of the iPhone, and it also works well on the iPad. I just Googled it and it's called "Ten1 Pogo Sketch Stylus for iPad, iPhone & iPod touch."
Yeah, I own one and it's really not all that great. A thin tipped solution would work a lot better and would make the ipad a little more valuable to many artists.. The Pogo is more akin to using a wax crayon made of rubber, hehe. Not exactly most people's tool of choice. The tip squishes and deforms in a really weird way.The number of posts I see about a stylus not being available for the iPad/iPhone/iPod Touch amazes me. SJ announced that one was available at the keynote launch of the iPhone, and it also works well on the iPad. I just Googled it and it's called "Ten1 Pogo Sketch Stylus for iPad, iPhone & iPod touch."
It's a fundamental flaw in the way capacitive touch works, it needs a wide radius to pick up the electrical capacitance, which is why the pogo is a big squidgy mess and the Ostylus has to have a surrounding ring to simulate that finger effect. When Steve stated that "if you need a stylus, you've lost" it was masking the fact that the these iOS devices simply can't handle a pin point stylus.
It makes me sad.
This is a really interesting and cool idea.
Really struggling to see the point of it though, esp as the colours will probably look different as most people's Monitors, and the iPad are not pro colour calibrated devices anyway.
And we don't even have colour settings on the iPad in the 1st place to calibrate the display.
If you remember when it 1st came out the postings from people saying the variations in iPads they bought and took back.
Really struggling to see the point of it though, esp as the colours will probably look different as most people's Monitors, and the iPad are not pro colour calibrated devices anyway.
And we don't even have colour settings on the iPad in the 1st place to calibrate the display.
If you remember when it 1st came out the postings from people saying the variations in iPads they bought and took back.
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At first read, that sounded dumb....but that's exactly what M$ did with Office. Seems to be working.
i think this would be great! but if these are just mockups at this point, it might be awhile before we see this actually happen
Good.
Good. This is the sort of thing Adobe should be working on instead of pushing that aweful Flash on us. I want Photoshop and Illustrator on the iPad. I also want pressure sensitivity for Photoshop - an important issue. Adobe could also stream line the programs - they've become bloated as CS.
Good. This is the sort of thing Adobe should be working on instead of pushing that aweful Flash on us. I want Photoshop and Illustrator on the iPad. I also want pressure sensitivity for Photoshop - an important issue. Adobe could also stream line the programs - they've become bloated as CS.
But the iPad (unlike a proper tablet for graphics work) can't do pressure sensitivity can it.
To be honest, the iPads screen tech is totally the wrong type for artwork anyway.
Chubby Finger Painting only.
Its just not make to be capable of fine precise work. that's not how it's made and why we can't use a thin pointy stylus.
I would like to see this with other apps such as After Effects and Maya. Anyone know of anything close in dev?
I believe Adobe is on the right track, however I agree with most people that the iPad's screen is not good for precise drawings even when using pens. If the iPad can somehow gain the precision of a Wacom tablet then it will be truly a killer drawing platform.
Dump the Sketch Pogo stylus. I highly recommend the BOXWAVE stylus which is far more sensitive and requires less pressure than the Pogo. It's more comfortable to hold on to with your fingers. You can find it on Amazon for less than $20. It's worth it.
To all those who have the Pogo, dump it! Get the Griffin or Boxwave styluses. I don't care how much of a "Michelangelo" people paint Steve Jobs to be, but he clearly is an idiot when not thinking of the creative industry's need for precision with the stylus.
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Now this is some good thinking. Except as a shortcut-key oriented PS user myself, I wouldn't want to reach up, as another person noted, to use an the tools on an iPad and then move my hand(s) back down to the keyboard or mouse.
Now what I think would be acceptable is moving certain controls or shortcuts onto the iPod/iPhone so you could set it up right near your mouse hand and just hit the shortcut real quick and move back down, instantly adding to the workflow. Some things that could be added here: previously used colors/filters, Adobe Kuler integration (this needs its own mobile app), instant Save for Web export, brush editing.
This isn't the place to have another Flash debate but, yeah, death of Flash is not happening. Apple is just helping Flash move into the place where it always belonged and that is high end interactive media. Many of you dissin' Flash apparently don't realize the giant gap in media services (games, video) it fills on the internet and replacing it with open source solutions - HTML5, Javascript, ect.- still takes almost twice the effort with varying support. Really the biggest reason it's taken the hit it has is because of the move to mobile web, where giant interactive Flash sites don't belong in the first place if you ask me.
Now this is some good thinking. Except as a shortcut-key oriented PS user myself, I wouldn't want to reach up, as another person noted, to use an the tools on an iPad and then move my hand(s) back down to the keyboard or mouse.
Now what I think would be acceptable is moving certain controls or shortcuts onto the iPod/iPhone so you could set it up right near your mouse hand and just hit the shortcut real quick and move back down, instantly adding to the workflow. Some things that could be added here: previously used colors/filters, Adobe Kuler integration (this needs its own mobile app), instant Save for Web export, brush editing.
This isn't the place to have another Flash debate but, yeah, death of Flash is not happening. Apple is just helping Flash move into the place where it always belonged and that is high end interactive media. Many of you dissin' Flash apparently don't realize the giant gap in media services (games, video) it fills on the internet and replacing it with open source solutions - HTML5, Javascript, ect.- still takes almost twice the effort with varying support. Really the biggest reason it's taken the hit it has is because of the move to mobile web, where giant interactive Flash sites don't belong in the first place if you ask me.
From what I have read the iPad's screen tech cannot deal with a fine stylus and that's that.
Piggie,
There are ways to control the fine lines using special software. Take Sketchbook Pro for iPad for instance. There are toggle bars that let you control the line quality and opacity of simulated media such as pencil, pen, paint, airbrush and so on.
The only tablet that destroys the iPad is the Wacom when it comes to true pressure sensitivity on the fly. I've experience using it for a decade now and while iPad's screen is capacitive, there are methods to control the line work. I know for a fact that Boxwave's stylus is far better than the Pogo stylus.
Apple dropped the ball big time when they should've designed an optional fine stylus to use besides fingers. Real graphic art/design pros don't use fingers. Creative pros, for the most part, use styluses. And I'm sure Steve Jobs knows that since he ran Pixar back in the day and is aware that those CGI artists use styluses or standardized input devices for precision purposes.
HP solved this by including a Wacom digitizer in the Slates screen.
Wonder if Apple will do that with future iPads?
The whole Adobe Creative suite is bloated. I was wondering the other day how this set of applications could each take up multiple GB per application. Adobe Acrobat, for example, takes up 2GB. The startling answer is that every single one of these applications includes hundreds of megabytes of frameworks, and even worse, the frameworks which should be shared between applications are just duplicated across each of them. Adobe could easily redesign their creative suite to have many GB less bloat, but simply cares not to.
In our company we use Google Analytics to monitor details of our site such as OS used and resolution. Last month one person used our site on an ipad
Macs were used less than 2 percent. So we will ignore the ipad for now.
I've heard stories about it and if Apple decides to go that route, they may have to contract Wacom for their help. I personally think Apple should have involved Wacom in the first place for this product.
The ultimate graphics tablet is the Wacom Cintiq at 21 inches used for the desktop market. Very cool product but als expensive. After all, it is a premium device for professionals, not casual users.
So far, the HP and Wacom combo seems to have been the choice slate for graphic pros lately, along with Wacom flagship products. Of course the iPad could do it but the pressure sensitivity is crippled, reducing the ability to do natal drawing strokes on the fly. It could simulate it closely but not to the level of the Wacoms.