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Logic and FCPX aren't going anywhere - you guys are acting like spoiled children. I have over 120,000 photos in Aperture - BUT I'm not belly aching on some silly message board.

I look forward to trying Lightroom... and probably the Photos app... get over yourselves, people. You are getting quite embarrassing.


You are a corporation's dream customer. Willing to take whatever they give you, asking for seconds.

Good luck porting over 120k photos from Aperture's proprietary database. Although, you will realize you are getting better software when you switch to LR.

:apple:

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I like to avoid giving any money to Adobe. Payment plans? I'm out.


Apple will happily take a flat payment of $80 for software they haven't updated in years and are admittedly killing.

:rolleyes:
 
The ONLY thing that makes me NOT want to go back to Windows is rampant Malware inherent to the platform. I'm not crazy with Windows 8.1's GUI but I could live with it. I don't like having to run Virus/Malware Checkers in the background 24/7 that always want updated, etc. M$ is known for CONSTANT UNENDING updates as well that annoy me (for security reasons, mostly since their platform is the absolute pits of Hell for malware). Yeah, I've got a few reasons to not go back to Windows, but if Apple keeps being Crapple instead of Apple, who knows.

Well...you've got Linux, I guess.
 
Doesn't have one
Doesn't exist
Hell if I know

But the point is, if you don't like Windows, and you're not thrilled with the direction Apple is taking, you only have one other option.

There's no option.
 
I use Aperture mostly for cataloging with metadata and basic editing, mostly just proofing with trial cc and cropping etc. I'll export to PS as needed to dig into serious editing.

Can those who have used both compare how they use LR vs Aperture for managing photos? Maybe point me to a favorite link?
This may help you

http://aperturevslightroom.com

I use LR for basic edits, cataloging, metadata similar to you. I also use PS extensively as a Protog. I suppose for new cameras you would need to update your software but otherwise?
 
Nope, not wrong. You could not simply import your already organised folders as they were. I recall asking Aperture experts when they demoed the programme to out group of pro-photographers how to do just that and they sheepishly had to admit that you couldn't. So like many others who already had a large amount of carefully organised work, I simply never bothered to use Aperture. Which is a big part of it's failure to ever gain traction in my view.

Not sure which version you were looking at but you definitely can import and leave files where they are.
There is a check box on import to choose to import into the library.
 
I used LR5 and its complicated and clunky. I also hate the idea of subscription which Adobe will force even on LR eventually.
Moved to Capture One what a much better tool and thankfully inexpensive.
Thank you the Danish.
 
I've been an Aperture user since version 1 and currently have about 11k images in my library. I'm not a professional photographer, but I frequently use images processed in Aperture for my work, in addition to personal use. Over the years, I've invested countless hours using Aperture's editing tools, especially once I started shooting RAW eight years ago. As I understand it, the only way to preserve these edits if I were to switch to LR would be to export the versions in TIFF or some other format that LR can accommodate. I have no problem with LR's cost, but I am concerned about how long it would take to move everything over and organize all my photos in a way that's somewhat close to what I've done in Aperture.

So I'm going to stick with Aperture for a while and see what Photos looks like next year. However, I just re-watched the brief demo from the keynote earlier this month, and I'm not optimistic that all or even the majority of Aperture's non-destructive editing tools will be supported and/or will make the transition to Photos. If that's the case, I guess that I'll just have to decide about making the jump to LR.

Of course, I don't know Apple's long-term plans for their other "pro" apps. But it seems to me that they're moving from a model where they sell software to add value to their hardware to one where they give it away - or sell it for very little - for the same reason.

I would keep using Aperture for now and see what import options Adobe come up with.
Also the new Apple Photos app might be good.
They are saying it can import from Aperture, and if so I would like to think Apple would preserve your edits. If it can apply all the edits, and then it might be a decent program after all.
 
Not sure which version you were looking at but you definitely can import and leave files where they are.
There is a check box on import to choose to import into the library.
Nope it can't import your file structure, even if Aperture leaves your files in place.
I just installed a demo of Aperture to reacquaint myself with it and it's still dreadful at importing, just like I recall. Actually worse than i remember. :eek:
It simply wouldn't import deeply nested folders and when I gave up on that and imported just the one folder of images with 6 subfolders with more images inside them and it only imported 72 out of 401 images. i.e. nothing from the subfolders.

Though having done this I now seem to recall being told that to import my existing nested folder structure that I couldn't do it in one go, but had to add each one manually. It looks like that is still the case. Really, really really, really, really, stupid. This is why I never started using Aperture as getting my prior work into it was simply too difficult.
So to sum up, I can import 300k of images into LR and have them all neatly organised in their current nested folders in a few clicks of the mouse. Doing the same in Aperture doesn't actually seem possible even with a lot of faffing. And I do not need a lecture on why folders are the old fashioned way to do things. They are not, it's just a different way of doing things and for some work it's simpler and easier to use folders. Plus you can use metadata as well, so best of both systems.
 
I have a Cylindrical Mac Pro on my desk, purchased solely around photography (Aperture user here). Would be nice to see the people on this forum who take money for their work on a regular basis chime in on this.

I wish Apple would hand Aperture over to a company like Pixelmator that would continue on.

I have no idea if Pixelmator would even be interested in this type of software but I would be pay them $$$ today and patiently wait if Pixelmator announced their intentions of creating an Aperture spin off.

Disheartening doesn't even cover it...
 
I was going to ask the same thing...I see the $10/month for PS and LR (not a bad deal) but where's that mythical stand-alone version?

Replacing add-ons might be difficult...or expensive.

This is for Student/Teacher Lr5 only. Not the photoshop and Lightroom CC deal.

$76.99 from BH
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...IKE-Jj1nb8CFabm7Aod-ksADg&Q=&is=REG&A=details

$79 from Adobe
http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/sto...egoryPath=/Applications/PhotoshopLightroomSTE

$79 from Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-Lightroom-Student-Teacher/dp/B00CY1OHLG

$79.99 from BestBuy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/adobe-p...dows/8928327.p?id=1218952104926&skuId=8928327

This is the NOTE from adobe on eligibility.
Note: This Adobe Student and Teacher Edition software is only for use by students, teachers, instructors and other educators who meet Adobe eligibility guidelines. Proof of eligibility will be required after purchase in order to use the software. End users will be authorized for only one license of any Adobe Student and Teacher Edition software product.
 
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**** Adobe. I'll make do without them.

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I have a Cylindrical Mac Pro on my desk, purchased solely around photography (Aperture user here). Would be nice to see the people on this forum who take money for their work on a regular basis chime in on this.

I wish Apple would hand Aperture over to a company like Pixelmator that would continue on.

I have no idea if Pixelmator would even be interested in this type of software but I would be pay them $$$ today and patiently wait if Pixelmator announced their intentions of creating an Aperture spin off.

Disheartening doesn't even cover it...

That would be great. I'm a bit mystified of the move myself. I mean, I get that they're trying to streamline their software offerings, but they still have iMovie and Final Cut X. Consumer/Pro. How hard is that? Maybe they think the Photos app will be a replacement? Doubtfully. Pretty weird move. I guess they feel like they can't compete with what Adobe has coming down the pipes. Sadly, They're probably right.
 
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Please no forced "cloud" integration. We have hard drives for a reason.
 
I was going to ask the same thing...I see the $10/month for PS and LR (not a bad deal) but where's that mythical stand-alone version?

Replacing add-ons might be difficult...or expensive.
I posted this in the other thread:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html
Scroll all the way down, it says Lightroom 5 standalone. You'll have to edit the cart from the upgrade to the full version, but it's there.

Or just buy it from a retailer. Very easy to find that way.

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/4870783245845234442?q=Lightroom+5
Any of the $100+ versions are the full versions.

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-Lightroom-Mac-Download/dp/B00CY1OB5S
 
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Then sell your machine and leave.

Logic and FCPX aren't going anywhere - you guys are acting like spoiled children. I have over 120,000 photos in Aperture - BUT I'm not belly aching on some silly message board.

I look forward to trying Lightroom... and probably the Photos app... get over yourselves, people. You are getting quite embarrassing.

FCPX already went somewhere on many computers, the trash. Or sudo rm -rf. I don't know what prompted Apple to mess up the FCP7 everyone knew and loved. Now people are on Adobe or Pro Tools. One of the reasons to use a Mac, gone. It's not whining; it's choosing the right tools.
 
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I got a server error earlier... apparently a lot of people are downloading LR tonight. :eek:

I'll probably sign up after my 30-day trial but I'll just keep using Aperture for a while, until somebody somewhere invents a way of migrating assets from Aperture's library to a lightroom catalog. Hopefully future versions of LR will integrate with whatever Apple's new photo management platform is.
 
Why would anybody want a dumbed down version of Photoshop that requires subscription? Let me know when mobile devices finally gets an actual pro software and not these basics apps among millions of shovelwares.
 
Title should read...
APPLE DOUBLING DOWN ON LESS COMMITMENT TO ITS PRO MARKET ONCE AGAIN!

There was the 2013 Mac Pro. It's weird that Apple suddenly made such a big push in pro hardware with the Mac Pro but then went back to killing off its pro market.
 
There was the 2013 Mac Pro. It's weird that Apple suddenly made such a big push in pro hardware with the Mac Pro but then went back to killing off its pro market.

As much as I don't like this decision by Apple, I think it's hasty to say it's killing it off (just yet).

Let's see what this new Photos app is like.

Maybe it will suck.

Maybe it will be fantastic.

Time will tell :)
 
Wrong guess.

Where's a full iOS development environment for Linux?
Where's iTunes for Linux?
Where's the Adobe suite for Linux?

It's limited in some ways and ahead in others. There are some great raw processors for Linux.
 
Why would anybody want a dumbed down version of Photoshop that requires subscription? Let me know when mobile devices finally gets an actual pro software and not these basics apps among millions of shovelwares.

Lightroom is not a dumbed down version of Photoshop, and does not require subscription. There are multiple posts in this thread already, that explain the differences between Lightroom, and the subscription-based. Photography plan, which includes Phosothop CC and Lightroom.
 
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