Adobe Launches Photoshop Elements 9 and Premiere Elements 9

[cube]

As I said, it is not reasonable to expect that someone who spent $250 on a 12-bit camera pay $700 for overkill software.

If really Elements is meant only for JPEG people, they should remove any pretenses of true RAW support.

Even for 8-bit people, I imagine they should convert to 16-bit before applying any edits.

 

[fxtech]

As I said, it is not reasonable to expect that someone who spent $250 on a 12-bit camera pay $700 for overkill software.

And what the rest of us are trying to explain is most people who spent $250 on a DSLR don't CARE about 12 bits - they don't even know what it is. They're going to post those pictures to Facebook or Flickr, as JPEG, and then move on. Elements is perfectly adequate for their needs. Nobody said these people should buy Photoshop.

 

[cube]

And what the rest of us are trying to explain is most people who spent $250 on a DSLR don't CARE about 12 bits - they don't even know what it is. They're going to post those pictures to Facebook or Flickr, as JPEG, and then move on. Elements is perfectly adequate for their needs. Nobody said these people should buy Photoshop.

I don't agree it is only for JPEG people as long as you can import RAW.

 

[AidenShaw]

I don't agree it is only for JPEG people as long as you can import RAW.

You can import *and process* RAW, and continue to work on the 48-bit image for many of the more common tasks, and save as a 48-bit image.

Why shouldn't Adobe provide those features to the people whose cameras cost a third of what Photoshop CS5 goes for?

Note first image of PSe8 filter menu in 48-bit, second image of filter menu in 24-bit.

 

[cube]

I don't agree with gratuitous, confusing, dangerous crippling.

Remove the offending functions and make it a safe full 16-bit program.

Or

Sell Photoshop Lite without RAW for $75.
Sell Photoshop Express with RAW and full 16-bit for $150.

I dont't even know why somebody would buy full Photoshop besides the uncrippling of those functions.

Can you even heal in PSE in 16-bit?

 

[AidenShaw]

I don't agree with gratuitous, confusing, dangerous crippling.

Dangerous - yes, thousands will die because of incomplete 48-bit color support in an $80 prosumer photo editor.

Remove the offending functions and make it a safe full 16-bit program.

Or

Sell Photoshop Lite without RAW for $75.

Are you upset about RAW support or 16-bit/channel support? Make up your mind.

Sell Photoshop Express with RAW and full 16-bit for $150.

I dont't even know why somebody would buy full Photoshop besides the uncrippling of those functions.

Exactly - who would buy Photoshop CS5 if PSe had full 48-bit support?

So, now you understand the wisdom of Adobe's market segmentation! Every time the prosumer gets the

popup it is a potential upgrade to Photoshop CS5.

So, it's pretty obvious that the "full 48-bit toolset" is *the professional feature* that makes Photoshop CS5 worth the money. And therefore, pretty obvious that restricting that feature in the $80 consumer product is a smart move.

Can you even heal in PSE in 16-bit?

As said earlier, no. You can heal in 8-bit/channel.
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