Adobe Launches Photoshop for iPad

[DotCom2]

It's only included with the $120/year plan if you subscribe before January 31, 2020. It is permanently included in the 1TB Photography plan, which is $240/year.

Thank you for posting this. It should have been stated in the article.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Actually it’s not annoying at all. There’s always a good reason to update iOS, if only for security.

You know what would be annoying? Not having updates at all, Android-style.

Missed my point.

iOS updates are one thing... but requiring a certain iOS version for an App that almost certainly doesn’t need anything specific to that version is the annoying part

 

[zhenya]

Problem is not in the subscription or one-time payment. The problem is if I need some furniture work done once in while I would not hire a carpenter for life and keep him at my house. I would rather call in when needed, get the work done, pay him and send him off. Now, in case I am running a furniture company that builds furniture daily, it then makes sense to hire carpenter permanently instead of hiring them every month. Different people have different requirements.

I use photoshop in my office daily which is the company provided, a subscription is a very good, low upfront cost with all the latest update. But at home, I use it only a couple of times in a month or maybe less and i may not need all the cutting edge latest update either.

Or, to re-state your example, under the old model, you simply needed a piece of trim replaced, but the carpenter has a $500 minimum charge.

Seriously, for the casual user who only needs to use the software a couple of times per year, the new model should be cheaper. You simply use the $9.99/month option as you need it, and cancel when you don't. No need to pay hundreds of dollars up front just to do something basic. The barrier to entry of using the software has been dramatically lowered under this model.

Adobe is pretty clear that their new business model is not for casual users. Their focus is on power users and businesses, for whom the costs are inconsequential. There are a ton of free or near free options from Adobe and tons of others that suit the needs of casual users.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

I use photoshop in my office daily which is the company provided, a subscription is a very good, low upfront cost with all the latest update. But at home, I use it only a couple of times in a month or maybe less and i may not need all the cutting edge latest update either.

Can't you use a license on two computers (ie., a desktop at the office and a portable laptop or computer at home)? Seems like this would be perfect for your scenario and not cost you a dime more.

 

[scottwiz105]

I downloaded it and have had very little time to play around with it. I didn't see a way to "edit in" files from Lightroom to PS or vice versa. Seems the only way to import is via the camera roll, files app, or from a camera shot directly. This is pretty annoying, unless I'm missing something. Again, haven't had time to mess around. Anyone find out how to do this?

 

[noslenam]

Pass - no thanks to any subscription apps. To many things these days are subscription.
Not for me. Haven’t used a adobe product in years and probably will never go back.

To those who use them good for you and enjoy!

 

[redheeler]

Missed my point.

iOS updates are one thing... but requiring a certain iOS version for an App that almost certainly doesn’t need anything specific to that version is the annoying part

Say you have an old Mac that can't update past a certain version of MacOS (eg. El Capitan), you'll quickly realize that half the apps out there are already incompatible unless you have the option to roll back to an older version. Something as simple as a minor update to Pages should not require MacOS Mojave with so many perfectly-good Macs stuck on High Sierra (at least officially).

I'd even go so far as to say this works as a form of planned obsolescence, designed to make your older hardware more frustrating to use than it should be. This seems to happen much quicker on the Mac and iOS than on competing platforms, with both Apple and third-party developers to blame for it. Apple doesn't support versions of MacOS older than three years (with Xcode that gets cut down to about a year and a half, eg. High Sierra had lost the ability to run the latest Xcode in early 2019), and versions of iOS that aren't current, so third-party developers often don't see the need to do so either.

 

[JosephKing]

I don't need any luck, Adobe CC works great for me. Adobe Photoshop used to cost £550-£650 here in the UK. With the subscription it costs around £120 a year and I always have the latest version of Photoshop & Lightoom. It's a good deal.

To each their own I suppose. For _most_ people, it's not worth it. But I'm glad it works for you.

 

[LV426]

I don't need any luck, Adobe CC works great for me. Adobe Photoshop used to cost £550-£650 here in the UK. With the subscription it costs around £120 a year and I always have the latest version of Photoshop & Lightoom. It's a good deal.

Arf. I use Affinity Photo and it costs me nothing each year, beyond the very reasonable purchase price.

 

[delta0]

Definitely need a new iPad released now. 4gb definitely will not cut it with photoshop.

 

[moonwalk]

I own the software and tools that I use. I would never rent them. So no thanks.

 

[ruka.snow]

Looks exciting, I can't wait to try this out and look forward to seeing the new iPad Pro that'll come out of the new need on the hardware

 

[skippermonkey]

Renting software is the devil's work. Annoyingly Maxon has jumped on this gravy train thanks to its new CEO, but I'll avoid it wherever I can. Like many, I'm moving away from Adobe with Affinity Photo and Apple Motion.

 

[robgreene]

How can Macrumors do this big of an expose on a flagship product like Photoshop and not mention cost? Many of us have parted ways with Adobe over their aggressive subscription model that hurts casual users of their software who otherwise might buy a discounted license of the software and use it for several years.

Pre-Creative Cloud, a full Adobe Creative Suite could cost upwards of $2000. Now, that suite is $59/month at full price ($720/yr), or $19/month at student pricing ($240/yr). For anyone making a living in fields that use these products, the pricing is well justified, and a significantly better pricing model. If $240/yr is still too much for you as a casual user, then their products may not be for you, and that's ok. There are great alternatives for casual users.

 

[Pro7913]

Still limited and very disappointed. What a joke Adobe.

 

[realtuner]

I don’t get the complaints about subscriptions. Seems like there aren’t a lot of business owners here. Leasing/renting (subscription) is extremely popular for many things. Straight up cash purchases not so much.

This isn’t a toy meant for casual users. There are countless Apps out there that are better suited to consumers who only need to perform basic functions.

Photoshop is mainly used by professionals. If you’re using software/hardware to make money, a small monthly charge is peanuts (and can be written off as an expense).

Adobe went to subscriptions in 2013. At the time their stock price was in the $43 range. Today their stock is almost $280. Their yearly revenues have climbed from $4 billion in 2013 to $9 billion in 2018 and are on track to hit $10 billion for 2019. Pretty obvious their customers are happy with the subscription model based on their excellent financial result since switching in 2013.


Just another example of armchair CEOs thinking they know better than Adobe (or Apple) how to run their business or what customers actually want.

 

[terminator-jq]

One word: Affinity...

Seriously. Those guys have made the perfect alternatives to a photoshop and illustrator. Get the Mac versions and get the iPad versions and your good to go. Perpetual licensing and the iPad apps and Mac apps are nearly identical meaning you can open up a file on iCloud Drive - do some work- then continue the same file on Mac.

 

[ignatius345]

I really prefer to call this software model what it is: software rental.

 

[Ludatyk]

How so? The current iPad Pro has more than enough power to handle the software as well as the proper pen tool. It's the Photoshop software that's still lacking as there are a lot of features stripped out from the desktop version. What else are you looking for from the iPad?

I’ve been telling @EugW for awhile now. No need to go down that rabbit hole. He/She have been anxiously awaiting for Apple to announce a new iPad Pro. He/she wants to make sure to not buy one near the end of cycle... which is understandable.

 

[cateye]

Adobe is pretty clear that their new business model is not for casual users. Their focus is on power users and businesses, for whom the costs are inconsequential. There are a ton of free or near free options from Adobe and tons of others that suit the needs of casual users.

I don’t get the complaints about subscriptions. Seems like there aren’t a lot of business owners here. Leasing/renting (subscription) is extremely popular for many things. Straight up cash purchases not so much.

Yes, this. Both of these. Thank you to both of you for being voices of reason among so much whining.

To everyone else: You have no intrinsic right to Adobe software or any software, nor do you "own" any of the software you use whether you pay a subscription or a single amount. You our granted a license that, in both cases, can be revoked at any time for any reason. Attaching to a payment model in some sort of childish holy war changes *nothing* of your rights.

I pay for my yearly subscription to CC with a few hours worth of billables. It doesn't even merit a blip in my business financials. If you can't afford the tools, the tools aren't for you. No shame in that. Move on to one of the dozens of alternatives and let the rest of us use the tools we need to make money under the payment model that is entirely appropriate to that class of software.

 

[JosephAW]

I'm assuming PSD files that were created on the Mac desktop can be opened on the iPad now? Photoshop Express was a complete failure and was not able to do so and was deleted.
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I'm wondering if this is a dumbed down version of Photoshop or has the exact same features as the previous and current desktop versions?

 

[chucker23n1]

How can Macrumors do this big of an expose on a flagship product like Photoshop and not mention cost? Many of us have parted ways with Adobe over their aggressive subscription model that hurts casual users of their software who otherwise might buy a discounted license of the software and use it for several years.

No additional cost. $10/mo for Lightroom (macOS) and Photoshop (macOS + iPad). Apparently more expensive starting in February.

Most people have either gotten over the subscription model or moved elsewhere. If you're a professional graphics person, a two-digit monthly fee really isn't a whole lot compared to other expenses. And if you only do image editing, you're better off with an alternative. Pixelmator, Acorn, Affinity, whathaveyou.
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Now Apple just needs to release a new iPad Pro line to go with it.

iPads have never been on an annual schedule, and it doesn't look like Apple is changing that now. The current iPad Pro is fine…

 

[brucebrendon]

40% off Adobe. X

(You'll need to cancel your plan, sign out and use a new email address)

 

[JosephAW]

If it's like the desktop version license you'll only be able to run it on one iPad device for ~$50/mo for the full suite. Additional iPads would cost extra.

Wondering how actions would port over?

 

[sfwalter]

Although you can bring in large PSDs with lots and lots of layers editing those layers are another story. For example there is no curves in the current version of the iPad app.