Adobe Launches Photoshop for iPad

[Pro7913]

I don’t get the complaints about subscriptions. Seems like there aren’t a lot of business owners here. Leasing/renting (subscription) is extremely popular for many things. Straight up cash purchases not so much.

This isn’t a toy meant for casual users. There are countless Apps out there that are better suited to consumers who only need to perform basic functions.

Photoshop is mainly used by professionals. If you’re using software/hardware to make money, a small monthly charge is peanuts (and can be written off as an expense).

Adobe went to subscriptions in 2013. At the time their stock price was in the $43 range. Today their stock is almost $280. Their yearly revenues have climbed from $4 billion in 2013 to $9 billion in 2018 and are on track to hit $10 billion for 2019. Pretty obvious their customers are happy with the subscription model based on their excellent financial result since switching in 2013.


Just another example of armchair CEOs thinking they know better than Adobe (or Apple) how to run their business or what customers actually want.

I guess you dont understand what's going on.

Do you aware that Adobe didnt update their software dramatically since they released CC versions? This is heavily related to optimization.

Check Premiere Pro from youtube and you will see its poor performance compared to Final Cut Pro and Davinci Resolve. They truly never update their software completely to support better performance. All Adobe software support CPU cores up to 8 cores for a long time. PP and AF can use up to 8 cores which is a joke and it proves that Adobe is just a greedy company.

Lightroom is another great example since they dont do any major updates for their software for a long period of time. I already switched to Capture One Pro. Can you believe that the software itself is almost identical to Lightroom 5 that I used before? When I compared them side by side, I'm kinda shocked. Capture One Pro always updates dramatically annually and that's why a lot of people moved to Capture One Pro.

If people have true alternative solutions, they would probably gonna ditch Adobe because of their poor optimization.

 

[realtuner]

I guess you dont understand what's going on.

Do you aware that Adobe didnt update their software dramatically since they released CC versions? This is heavily related to optimization.

Check Premiere Pro from youtube and you will see its poor performance compared to Final Cut Pro and Davinci Resolve. They truly never update their software completely to support better performance. All Adobe software support CPU cores up to 8 cores for a long time. PP and AF can use up to 8 cores which is a joke and it proves that Adobe is just a greedy company.

Lightroom is another great example since they dont do any major updates for their software for a long period of time. I already switched to Capture One Pro. Can you believe that the software itself is almost identical to Lightroom 5 that I used before? When I compared them side by side, I'm kinda shocked. Capture One Pro always updates dramatically annually and that's why a lot of people moved to Capture One Pro.

If people have true alternative solutions, they would probably gonna ditch Adobe because of their poor optimization.

I never made a comment about updates or what their software does.

I'm talking strictly about the subscription model (which is eerily similar to how any business gets most of their equipment/vehicles/office space - by paying for it monthly, usually through leasing).

 

[Lone Deranger]

We're gonna need a bigger iPad. 🤔

 

[Pro7913]

I never made a comment about updates or what their software does.

I'm talking strictly about the subscription model (which is eerily similar to how any business gets most of their equipment/vehicles/office space - by paying for it monthly, usually through leasing).

It is related because people have to keep paying for Adobe even their software performance is poor. Capture One Pro provides both the subscription and individual plan unlike Adobe and that's the point too.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

Arf. I use Affinity Photo and it costs me nothing each year, beyond the very reasonable purchase price.

Affinity pricing is good, but their pricing model is such that you need to buy a license for each platform the app runs on. Got Windows? $50. Got a Mac, too? Another $50. Got an iPad? Another $20.

 

[cateye]

It is related because people have to keep paying for Adobe even their software performance is poor. Capture One Pro provides both the subscription and individual plan unlike Adobe and that's the point too.

What you don't get is a YouTube bake-off says nothing about the productivity of a software and how it fits into an individual's workflow. Foo Software, Inc. could come out with the world's fastest photo editing software ever, rendering changes in a blink of an eye using magic pixie dust, and I still wouldn't replace Photoshop with it. Why? Because I have an array of clients in publishing and other industries who expect me to use Photoshop, and for whom me using Photoshop (or Illustrator, or InDesign) is about the workflow agreements I have with my clients. I have spend 25 years of my career working with Adobe software and the last time I ever ran into a client, publishing house, production facility, or printer that used anything else at the high-end was back when Quark existed.

This is what people constantly don't get and don't process in these arguments. I don't disagree with you that there are things Adobe can and should do better. It shouldn't have taken this long to get an iPad version of Photoshop, for example. But arguing that I should dismiss Adobe based on how they ask me to pay for their licensing or because some other software somewhere might be faster is absurd. That's not how any business makes decisions.

 

[Brammy]

Seriously, for the casual user who only needs to use the software a couple of times per year, the new model should be cheaper. You simply use the $9.99/month option as you need it, and cancel when you don't.

The last time I checked, you can't do this. It's a year's commitment I believe.

EDIT: I was wrong. Month to months is $30.

 

[Pro7913]

What you don't get is a YouTube bake-off says nothing about the productivity of a software and how it fits into an individual's workflow. Foo Software, Inc. could come out with the world's fastest photo editing software ever, rendering changes in a blink of an eye using magic pixie dust, and I still wouldn't replace Photoshop with it. Why? Because I have an array of clients in publishing and other industries who expect me to use Photoshop, and for whom me using Photoshop (or Illustrator, or InDesign) is about the workflow agreements I have with my clients. I have spend 25 years of my career working with Adobe software and the last time I ever ran into a client, publishing house, production facility, or printer that used anything else at the high-end was back when Quark existed.

This is what people constantly don't get and don't process in these arguments. It's about making money, period.

That doesnt justify their lazy and greedy situations.

 

[VeryVito]

“We know we have more work to do”

So do I, and Adobe's cloud-based subscription apps are being removed from my workflow.

This. Adobe's attitude of "This should be enough; keep paying the subscription fee" turned me off long ago. With so many viable alternatives in this space now, I honestly don't understand what's keeping people indebted to such a lackluster company. Affinity's product line is amazing today, while Adobe's is largely what it was in 2009 -- but with subscriptions.

 

[richpjr]

Missed my point.

iOS updates are one thing... but requiring a certain iOS version for an App that almost certainly doesn’t need anything specific to that version is the annoying part

How would you know that they certainly don't need anything specific to the newest version of iOS?

 

[Marvelous Patric]

i never get the hate for subscription based software. i like it. i pay less than $1000 a year and get all the Adobe software, all the latest versions. I remember in college, with my student discount, paying that much for 3 titles... and having to decide, "do i need the page layout software, or the web design software more?" and, i would have to space out upgrades to be able to pay for it. and then.. . the new version hit and i'd have to do it again. and now i have all these useless old programs.

i look at this stuff as a bonus to my adobe subscription.

 

[turbineseaplane]

How would you know that they certainly don't need anything specific to the newest version of iOS?

How do you know they do?
lol

More seriously… The number one reason would be the fact that it’s probably been in development for a lot longer than iOS 13 has even been around

 

[cateye]

That doesnt justify their lazy and greedy situations.

I mean, if it matters that much to you to turn it into some sort of right vs. wrong thing, be my guest, I'm not here to change your mind. Just don't be surprised if many of us shrug and get back to work. There's no money to be made pounding sand.

 

[zhenya]

The last time I checked, you can't do this. It's a year's commitment I believe.

Yeah, not for the Photography plan I guess, and the price is higher when you do month to month on other plans.

Still a much lower barrier than the several hundred dollar investment it used to require.

 

[OriginalClone]

Sure, but is Macrumors telling any of their readers how much it costs?

It’s not Macrumors job..they did enough by saying you need a Photoshop subscription. If anyone is interested they can get the price from Adobe. I don’t think that’s asking too much from an adult..

 

[Wash08]

Affinity pricing is good, but their pricing model is such that you need to buy a license for each platform the app runs on. Got Windows? $50. Got a Mac, too? Another $50. Got an iPad? Another $20.

Even like that still cheaper than Adobe extortion scheme; I ditch them almost 4 years ago never looked back. I have all their apps Designer, Photo and Publisher, I’m planning on getting a iPad pro soon and then getting the iPad versions, and to top it all Serif is working on an iPad version of Publisher. I don’t miss or need adobe anymore.

 

[Necross]

Maybe I missed it but does anyone know if this will work with your Creative Cloud license, if you alraedy installed it twice? I have it installed on my imac and my laptop, but I'd like to try out the ipad version too

 

[Substance90]

i never get the hate for subscription based software. i like it. i pay less than $1000 a year and get all the Adobe software, all the latest versions.

Oh, wow, that's such a steal.

 

[Marvelous Patric]

Oh, wow, that's such a steal.

It is when you look at the rest of the post... less than $1000 for ALL the programs VS the same amount for 3 with a student discount I had to pay before this.

 

[Brammy]

Re: Affinity. I had a conversation with someone in another thread about why he can't move to Affinity.

The Affinity apps aren't a 1:1 comparison to Adobe's. For prosumers, they are fine. But someone who has billable hours, and plug-ins that only work with Photoshop, Affinity can be a step back. As mentioned up thread, someone will bill out the year's cost of Adobe before lunch one day.

For the rest of us, they are fine apps. I love they give Adobe a challenge.

 

[jonnyb098]

Thanks for the clarification.

Time to test it against Affinity Photo.

I'll save you some time. Affinity will win hands down.

 

[realtuner]

It is related because people have to keep paying for Adobe even their software performance is poor. Capture One Pro provides both the subscription and individual plan unlike Adobe and that's the point too.

If the software doesn’t fit their needs then they can use something else. Clearly many don’t have the issues people are whining about here given their financial performance.

 

[falainber]

We're gonna need a bigger iPad. 🤔

That's what desktop is for.

 

[turbineseaplane]

But someone who has billable hours, and plug-ins that only work with Photoshop, Affinity can be a step back. As mentioned up thread, someone will bill out the year's cost of Adobe before lunch one day.

It's a good point.
I wonder why Adobe doesn't raise the prices quite a bit?
They appear to be leaving a lot of money on the table, particularly from users who are hyper locked in.

 

[bruno7]

It is when you look at the rest of the post... less than $1000 for ALL the programs VS the same amount for 3 with a student discount I had to pay before this.

Did you really have to pay $1000 a year for 3 pieces of software? Wasn't it one-time purchase back then?

Besides there is always a danger (or certainty, more likely) that Adobe will increase the subscription prices in the future.

I've bought all three Affinity programs recently for a very good price and the only thing I'm missing are Smart Objects in Affinity Photo - and they're supposed to add them in the nearby future. I do miss a couple of other small details from Adobe Suite, but these are things I can easily live without.

I only need Designer (AI), Photo (PS) and Publisher (ID) for my work. There's no point for me to pay for all the other programs I will never use.

So I'm perfectly happy with Affinity software for the time being.