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I'm simply amazed by the distance Adobe went to "hide" the standalone version. Without the link from this thread, I spent many minutes going back and force among different CreativeCloud options to find the standalone version. Try it from ww.adobe.com and see how many clicks it takes to find it.

With LR 6's new features and Apple's direction, I'm going to have to jump. But, I hate Adobe's CC, its excessive price, its grip on your bank account, &etc. I did locate the standalone version, but, CC alone would be enough to make me go with another package rather than LR, if I could find an alternative. Unfortunately, for what I want, LR 6 seems to be the only game in town, so, I'm making plans to convert.
 
Lightroom 6

Been using Lightroom for a few years now and I love how this software can handle a great number of RAW images. With some of my jobs I shoot 1000-3000 per day. I use the new 2013 Mac Tower and I store all my pictures on the OWC Thunderbay 4 Hard Drives. My system is extremely quiet and I cannot tell if my computer is on. The OWC hard drives have a very quiet fan. I have a 1TB SSD internal drive. This makes my editing run smoothly and fast with both Lightroom and Photoshop open. I buy the stand alone Lightroom software and I use my older Photoshop CS5. I have no need for the Adobe Cloud right now but in time I guess I will have to switch over but this is what works well for me. Lightroom does a lot of things Photoshop and Bridge can do and can sync my changes to my other pictures very quickly. The new features in Lightroom 6 looks to be very interesting and I will be upgrading to the new software soon. Sometimes when you buy the first day there are a few bugs that need to be worked out so I will wait and buy the new version in a month plus the new features are not something I need right now.
 
Mac OSX PHOTOS app vs Adobe Lightroom?

Not impressed with new PHOTOS app, so what is better about Adobe LIGHTROOM app..?

Switch / Not Switch?

I'm a prosumer user.
 
Photoshop is to Pixelmator
Illustrator is to iDraw
Lightroom is to ???

Is there a program dedicated to image processing for casual users in the $20-$40 price range? I don't expect something as full-fledged as Lightroom, but I would like a program that stitches photos, has a library (to replace Apple Photos), and can do some finishing touches. Any recommendations?

Lightroom is to darktable?

http://www.darktable.org/

Not sure if it does stitching though, I'm still learning how to use it.

PS -darktable is free.
 
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Lightroom uses say Photos is limited...

Photos users say its just as good.

No one can win ....

Noone will say that Photos is just as good. Photos is a non-feature-complete iPhotos replacement, Lightroom is almost what Aperture would have been if Apple hadn't stopped development 3-4 years ago. Before that, Aperture and Lightroom leapfrogged each other.

Photos has some really fundamental limitations - e.g., it seems to store one original photo and one edited photo. Aperture and Lightroom store the original photo and a sequence of edits. That saves a lot of space, avoids some stages of conversion loss, makes it easy to see what has been done to picture, makes it possible to undo single steps at other times than just after it happened - or just delete/adjust one step.

This, of course, is in addition to all the extra adjustments you can do. Some of these can surely be added to Photos, but it is fundamentally flawed.
 
You're not a fan cause you obviously can afford to buy those software right away. But for guys like me, renting them is awesome since I can't afford to buy them like you. I never paid for those software. Always managed to find a way to get them for "free" but always wanted to get them legally. The minute I heard that they were coming with a monthly payment solution like spotify, I signed up. :)

But the subscription is even more expensive than the boxed versions & updates were. They should offer different bundles like they used to - design standard, design premium, production premium etc. etc.

I used to buy design standard bundle because I don't want or need the other applications. I used to update it every 2 years for € 500,-. The cc subscription is € 700,- for 1 year, that's almost 3 times as much! That's why I'm still on CS 6.
 
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The GPU acceleration in LR6 is wonderfully and instantly apparent. I'm okay with the general lack of new features given the performance improvement :)
 
At last an item about some thing real and useful that doesn't have a tag like "someone, somewhere had a vague thought about the iWatch" or "man in office looked sideways at iWatch ad" or "woman with taste frowns at naff iWatch" or "loony Apple geeks think iWatch is Pope" or "amoeba regards Ive as complete wally" etc, etc ,etc ad freekin nauseum.
 
SAVE money, and LR 6 vs LR CC

B + H has the photography package by Adobe (Lightroom and Photoshop) for $99 for the year if you purchase by tomorrow.

Also, Lightroom 5 worked for FREE in Library mode, and version 6 may do the same thing for those that do limited editing.

I use both LR and PS professionally, and for many, Lightroom can now do almost anything most people would ever want to do to a photo. I teach photography here in Italy, and I used to recommend the photography bundle because you needed Photoshop for HDR (or other software) or to do panoramas. Now these are in Lightroom CC and 6.

But historically Lightroom updates every 12-18 months, although this last update came almost 2 years later. If you buy Lightroom and then pay $79 to upgrade to Lightroom 7 within the next 2 years, you will have paid $230, and if you do the 30 day trial and then pay $9.99 a month for BOTH LR and PS, you'll pay $230 over the next 2 years.

Because Adobe has made LR 6 different from LR CC, it is possible that updates won't be frequent with Lightroom 6. I do like Adobe, but I was royally pissed when I paid $199 to upgrade to Photoshop CS6, and then Adobe wanted $49 a month to get the complete Creative Cloud IF I wanted any updates to CS6!

Fortunately the photography package makes getting BOTH programs, PLUS the updates and mobile Lightroom just a bit more than buying Lightroom then keeping it up to date.

Here is Adobe's page on the differences between LR 6 and LR CC: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom/versions.html
 
Agreed, 6D RAW processing was awful. I stopped shooting RAW for use in Aperture because the in Camera picture settings adjustment produced a much better jpeg result directly out of the camera.

U should've just switched to LR instead :)
 
Not impressed with new PHOTOS app, so what is better about Adobe LIGHTROOM app..?

Switch / Not Switch?

I'm a prosumer user.

Well Adobe does offer a trial a they have a huge tutorial video library, download it and give it a whirl.
 
When Aperture stops working, sadly I'll have to go to Lightroom. I hate all things Adobe, so bloated.

Before Apple announced that Aperture was dead, and getting tired of waiting for an updated version, I picked up LR. I have to say, it's a great product -- what I expected Aperture to become. It handles my Canon 6D raw files very well, and there are many plugins available. When I open Aperture, I realize how limited it was...give LR a shot with a free trial.
 
You're not a fan cause you obviously can afford to buy those software right away. But for guys like me, renting them is awesome since I can't afford to buy them like you. I never paid for those software. Always managed to find a way to get them for "free" but always wanted to get them legally. The minute I heard that they were coming with a monthly payment solution like spotify, I signed up. :)

A quick lesson from life(tm) for you: "Renting is always more expensive than paying up front!"

That one was free though...
 
It is HIGHLY UNLIKELY that there is any real difference in the code for the two versions. At most, they use a compiler switch to disable, and possibly omit, a block of code at compile time to disable the Cloud/Mobile functions. All development and testing would be doubled otherwise.

We will likely see bug fixes and hopefully updates to the Camera RAW component's camera compatiblility with Lr6 just as we saw with Lr5. As with Lr5, we likely won't see the feature additions/enhancements that will likely appears in Lr/CC.
 
Before Apple announced that Aperture was dead, and getting tired of waiting for an updated version, I picked up LR. I have to say, it's a great product -- what I expected Aperture to become. It handles my Canon 6D raw files very well, and there are many plugins available. When I open Aperture, I realize how limited it was...give LR a shot with a free trial.

Yeah, I've tried Lightroom. No doubt on what it can do. My problem is that I downloaded the trial. I have a mid-2012 rMBP, 8GB RAM, SSD, etc. My computer still screams. I have no issues with any of the software I used. however, Lightroom felt very sluggish. Aperture had no problems at all, things are very fast and snappy. Also, the bloat of Adobe products also turns me off. I just want one app, you end up with other apps that are supposed to "help" you do stuff, but ends up slowing down my machine.

I will never go back to Photos, that's for damn sure.

I really wish Apple would buy Adobe and just like that, would have a pro app suite back. Can you say hostile takeover? Keep the best, trash the rest.
 
Yeah, I've tried Lightroom. No doubt on what it can do. My problem is that I downloaded the trial. I have a mid-2012 rMBP, 8GB RAM, SSD, etc. My computer still screams. I have no issues with any of the software I used. however, Lightroom felt very sluggish. Aperture had no problems at all, things are very fast and snappy. Also, the bloat of Adobe products also turns me off. I just want one app, you end up with other apps that are supposed to "help" you do stuff, but ends up slowing down my machine.

I will never go back to Photos, that's for damn sure.

I really wish Apple would buy Adobe and just like that, would have a pro app suite back. Can you say hostile takeover? Keep the best, trash the rest.


I understand...I picked up a late 2012 Mini after my Mac Pro 1,1 was on it's last legs, and new new Mac Pro in sight. I have an SSD with just the OS and programs, then a Thunderbolt drive with 3 3TB drives inside. I also have 16GB RAM. LR works incredibly well with it, and I have lots of photos, all taken on a full frame Canon 6D in RAW. Perhaps the 16GB RAM makes it fast for me.

LR does not seem bloaty, but it does have some great features. I've added some editing plugins and really enjoy it. The bottom line is that Aperture stopped growing, and Photos is find for the point-and-shoot crowd (there are some nice adjustment tools, but they are limited).
 
I've been using Lightroom to Tag people in photos in lieu of facial recognition. Has anyone who has played with this new feature comment on how that might work? Do I have to go back through and re-tag everyone? I like that people's names are stored in the EXIF info when exported, does the facial recognition option do that?
 
Can My Lightroom 6 catalog live on a network drive?

Hi,

We have an office with 4 individuals that have use LR and we would like to store the catalog on one drive that all may access. I realize that LR has a "Lock" so that it is impossible for more than one use at a time to access the catalog... which is fine.... But LR6 database is just what we need to quickly search for and find the images that we need. I would have thought that a LOCK file feature would not have been necessary if it was impossible for more than one person at a time to access the DB.:confused:

Any suggestions?
 
Do they offer LR6 with student pricing? Or special pricing for an upgrade. $149 seems a bit much seeing as I only paid $80 for LR5.
 
B + H has the photography package by Adobe (Lightroom and Photoshop) for $99 for the year if you purchase by tomorrow.

Also, Lightroom 5 worked for FREE in Library mode, and version 6 may do the same thing for those that do limited editing.

I use both LR and PS professionally, and for many, Lightroom can now do almost anything most people would ever want to do to a photo. I teach photography here in Italy, and I used to recommend the photography bundle because you needed Photoshop for HDR (or other software) or to do panoramas. Now these are in Lightroom CC and 6.

But historically Lightroom updates every 12-18 months, although this last update came almost 2 years later. If you buy Lightroom and then pay $79 to upgrade to Lightroom 7 within the next 2 years, you will have paid $230, and if you do the 30 day trial and then pay $9.99 a month for BOTH LR and PS, you'll pay $230 over the next 2 years.

Because Adobe has made LR 6 different from LR CC, it is possible that updates won't be frequent with Lightroom 6. I do like Adobe, but I was royally pissed when I paid $199 to upgrade to Photoshop CS6, and then Adobe wanted $49 a month to get the complete Creative Cloud IF I wanted any updates to CS6!

Fortunately the photography package makes getting BOTH programs, PLUS the updates and mobile Lightroom just a bit more than buying Lightroom then keeping it up to date.

Here is Adobe's page on the differences between LR 6 and LR CC: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom/versions.html

Thanx!

They try to make the comparison between LRCC and LR6 look like you're gaining so much more with LRCC. But in reality it looks like mainly the mobile devices are pretty much what you'd miss with LR6. The one thing it appears they DO lock you out of is "Learn[ing] from a library of in-depth video tutorials" if you go the LR6 route, and possibly slower/no access to incremental updates - which is kind of a lame way of treating potential customers who are getting into their products for the first time. I'm sure you can find a ton on YouTube, but oh well.

Anyway, I've also been hearing about Affinity Photo by Serif (currently in public Beta) which may be a rival to PhotoShop, and it includes end-to-end CMYK supported - yet it'll only be approx. $50. It's not an organizer/manager like LR, but may be a step up from Pixelmator and PS Elements which are both only RGB (non-CMYK).
 
Can you get a student discount on the box set?

You can only get a discount on the subscription if you get the full $20 a month one. All I want is LR.

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And I haven't read the thread yet, but I see it isn't LR 6, it's LR CC.

B&H traditionally will discount LR to ~$100 after a while, when bundled with another purchase. This is brand new, so not yet.
 
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