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Not saying it will. But it could.
True, and we could develop flying cars but i don't that will happen either.

I agree, the potential is there, but speaking realistically its remote and not feasible to expect apple to do this. FCP is a poor example, because they gutted the pro app with a promise of improving it. Photos was never marketed as a pro app but consumer facing. Will Apple improve it, yes, does apple have a poor track record of supporting the photography sector, yes without a doubt. Will I take a gamble my images on the remote chance that will when there are so many much more capable apps out there now? No, I've already moved on to LR
 
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yeah actually reading the article youre commenting/complaining about is always a plus.

Spare me the sarcasm and judgement. I replied to a comment where I was given the impression that they solely offered the subscription model. I hope that's not too hard to understand.
 
Yeah, I'm disappointed in the delay. I'm trying to work out the cost factor, do I want LR6 as a stand alone product or pay 10 dollars a month for LightRoom and Photoshop.

Well, if Adobe keeps it's 2 year+ upgrade cycle, it would be cheaper to by the box set of LR than pay for the CC subscription unless you use photoshop.

Pixelmator's worked for my basic needs, so I may get the boxed version.

EDIT: I found the link to the standalone purchase (they don't make that very obvious) and it's $150. So if someone uses LR 6 for 15 months they've paid for it. Plus you get all the updates to it until LR 7.
 
As long as you're happy with the functionality of your OS and all your other apps as they are right now, too.

Over time, as the OS gets updated and Aperture does not, functionality will break down and eventually stop altogether. And the thing is you'll never be able to predict how it breaks down or what will cause it until you try the various OS updates.

If you rely on Aperture at all for anything important, updating your OS becomes risky. But so, too, does not updating your OS as security improvements, bug fixes, and improvements to the other apps you rely on with their updates (which often require an updated OS to run) make running these updates rather important.

Halting the progress of everything else you do on your computer just to keep one thing working is not my idea of "won't stop working".

The other challenge is the longer one continue to use an abandoned product like Aperture the more difficult the transition will be to a supported product, like Lightroom or Capture One.

OSX 10.11 will in all likelihood be announced at WWDC. Aperture will most likely not run on 10.11.

I am not sure why people are holding out with regard to Aperture as well as the mistaken belief that Photos will grow to be an Adobe killer. :apple: has stated that there is no intention for Photos to ever approach Aperture in capabilities. (Not directed at you just commiserating with you)
 
They've always offered Lightroom as a standalone one-time-fee product. I suspect this was because it was never part of the Creative Suite.

It's great if you never need Photoshop. But if you do, it makes more sense to do the (endlessly annoying) subscription, as you get both for $120/year. There is no standalone PS product.

I see. I tried to find it but what I found was only the subscription model. Guess I didn't look good enough.

Is Lightroom preferable for the non pro who simply uses auto-enhance features and the occasional slider? Don't have too much time editing, so would Photos suffice? Don't really shoot in RAW unless I bring the 600D, since most pictures are going to be taken from an iPhone.
 
When Aperture stops working, sadly I'll have to go to Lightroom. I hate all things Adobe, so bloated.

No, you don't.

Been testing Lightroom 5 for a couple of weeks and just could not get on with the 90's design, the stilted workflow and the Adobe bloat.

Tried Capture One and instantly got on with it better. It also imports Aperture photos with adjustments, unlike Lightroom!
 
But is there an upgrade option, for people who have a previous version, such as LR 5? I'm not seeing that option.

Upgrade versions have been typically been $79 in the past.
Yes there is. Once you're on the Buy page, just change from "Full" to "Upgrade". I just bought the upgrade for $79.
 
It's a new app - Lightroom CC 2015 - rather than an update to Lightroom 5 for subscribers. Pretty much what they did with Photoshop, create a separate CC application
 
Does this puppy finally have graphics hardware acceleration?

It does, but only for the Develop module (not import/export as I've tested).

However, most of the adjustments are instantaneous now, e.g. the curves, exposure, color, etc. all take effect in realtime as you move the slider. Graduated and radial filters are also real-time. It's a huge improvement.

Note that this is only on a 13" rMBP with integrated Iris Graphics. A dedicated GPU will perform even better- but even with the low-end GPU's it's still a huge improvement.



Recovery slider is gone...

It's the "highlights" slider. Same as it was in 5.x.
 
I've been using Lr 5 with a lot of presets - Development / Curves / Metadata. Do you guys know if the folder structure is the same so you can just copy these over? Have anyone done it already? Thanks a lot.

// It seems the everything got copied over - magic.
 
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It's a new app - Lightroom CC 2015 - rather than an update to Lightroom 5 for subscribers. Pretty much what they did with Photoshop, create a separate CC application

It's both, actually. Lightroom 6 is an upgrade (but not a free upgrade, due to the version change) of Lightroom 5. Its basically the same product as Lightroom CC, minus the cloud features.
 
My understanding is if you buy the standalone version, your done. Any improvements/tweaks will be applied to CC only. That might make this box version very long in the tooth before the next major update, which will be CC only I'm sure. That's a good way to nudge people past the standalone and into the cloud.
 
I see. I tried to find it but what I found was only the subscription model. Guess I didn't look good enough.

Is Lightroom preferable for the non pro who simply uses auto-enhance features and the occasional slider? Don't have too much time editing, so would Photos suffice? Don't really shoot in RAW unless I bring the 600D, since most pictures are going to be taken from an iPhone.

If all you're using are the auto-features and a slider now and then, you might be fine with one of the less-expensive non-Adobe programs. But if you think you might start digging in a bit more, Lightroom would be a good fit, with no need to go to Photoshop (basically, if you decide to get LR, just buy the "box version", no need for the subscription).

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My understanding is if you buy the standalone version, your done. Any improvements/tweaks will be applied to CC only. That might make this box version very long in the tooth before the next major update, which will be CC only I'm sure. That's a good way to nudge people past the standalone and into the cloud.

This has not historically been true, and was not the case for Lightroom 5 (which was also available as Lightroom CC via subscription). For LR5, we got the same updates as CC over the life of the software.

I see no reason (unless Adobe has stated somewhere that this will not be the case) to think we won't get those same updates to LR6.
 
I am not sure why people are holding out with regard to Aperture as well as the mistaken belief that Photos will grow to be an Adobe killer. :apple: has stated that there is no intention for Photos to ever approach Aperture in capabilities.
(Not directed at you just commiserating with you)

Photo's itself, via Apple, may not be an Adobe killer. What could make it an adobe killer is 3rd party apps/extensions. As we know there are 3rd party extension in iOS which work with Photo's. It is not far off the mark that these same benefits will hit the desktop version as well. This opens up a whole new world of integration. It was just this last release that extensions were allowed in iOS and allow other apps to natively access the camera roll and modify photo's, all while leaving the originals untouched. A principal underlying feature of Aperture.
 
If all you're using are the auto-features and a slider now and then, you might be fine with one of the less-expensive non-Adobe programs. But if you think you might start digging in a bit more, Lightroom would be a good fit, with no need to go to Photoshop (basically, if you decide to get LR, just buy the "box version", no need for the subscription).

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This has not historically been true, and was not the case for Lightroom 5 (which was also available as Lightroom CC via subscription). For LR5, we got the same updates as CC over the life of the software.

I see no reason (unless Adobe has stated somewhere that this will not be the case) to think we won't get those same updates to LR6.

I hope I'm incorrect but when you look at this chart:

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom/versions.html

And see "Always stay up to date with the latest photography innovations from Adobe" under CC only, I have to wonder. It's what Kelby alluded to in his rollout show also. I also no longer see any reference to a student teacher standalone. So the student/teacher versions are not upgradeable, owners will not have the usual $79 for a new copy option. Pay the $149 or go CC.

So what they have done in the past may mean little going forward. They are the big kid on the playground now without a doubt.
 
I updated to Lightroom CC on my Surface, but the Mac version for my Macbook Pro, where my other license is installed, is still saying Lightroom 5. Adobe, on the ball as usual :rolleyes:
 
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