Perhaps Adobe was planning on demoing 64-bit CS4 at MacWorld, but Apple didn't want Adobe to bring in all those $999 quad-core 8 GiB 64-bit Vista mini-towers to the show floor
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Adobe Not Exhibiting at Macworld Expo San Francisco
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Perhaps Adobe was planning on demoing 64-bit CS4 at MacWorld, but Apple didn't want Adobe to bring in all those $999 quad-core 8 GiB 64-bit Vista mini-towers to the show floor
so no flash on iphone.
Not to pick on you specifically because several people have posted this, but can anyone explain to me why this announcement = no Flash on the iPhone?
Because I see no correlation whatsoever.
In a way, MacWorld was a lot more fun when it was just about the only place you could expect to run into more than one Mac user in any single place. You'd go for no other reason than to not feel quite so alone. If Apple's success comes at a price, it's that attending a MacWorld doesn't feel as much like a gathering of the tribe as it did once.
Don't forget New York.
I've run into Sinbad on the floor a couple of times. I also met Jef Raskin a few years ago, which was pretty exciting.
Adobe bad news
From Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSTRE4B28D920081203
Might explain some things.
I find this interesting as well:
Yeah Adobe....most people don't want (or can't) shell out cash for a mediocre upgrade.
-Kevin
From Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSTRE4B28D920081203
Might explain some things.
I find this interesting as well:
Yeah Adobe....most people don't want (or can't) shell out cash for a mediocre upgrade.
-Kevin
I'm sure this was purely a financial decision. Some Adobe bean counter decided to take a few dollars out of Marketing's budget, so they have to make do during this slump (hopefully short lived).
Conferences aren't necessarily junkets for people to play. I work with a user group and I can tell you, our attendees have very little play time. They are in technical sessions most of the day, and spend the rest of their time networking with colleagues (it may be over dinner and/or drinks). A trade show is often the only opportunity to talk one-on-one with a vendor during the year, and you can hit multiple vendors in the same venue. It's very efficient and productive. Internet chats and video conferences only get you so far-- it just does not replace personal interaction.
Sure, at a conference you can go hit the bars or the golf course, but that's your choice how to make use of your time (and chances are, if you goof off at a conference, you probably goof off at work too
Never been to Macworld but I'd love to go someday when I can get the time.
Conferences aren't necessarily junkets for people to play. I work with a user group and I can tell you, our attendees have very little play time. They are in technical sessions most of the day, and spend the rest of their time networking with colleagues (it may be over dinner and/or drinks). A trade show is often the only opportunity to talk one-on-one with a vendor during the year, and you can hit multiple vendors in the same venue. It's very efficient and productive. Internet chats and video conferences only get you so far-- it just does not replace personal interaction.
Sure, at a conference you can go hit the bars or the golf course, but that's your choice how to make use of your time (and chances are, if you goof off at a conference, you probably goof off at work too
Never been to Macworld but I'd love to go someday when I can get the time.
Boycott MacWorld Expo...excessive event related spam.
Paul Kent, who claims that MacWorld Expo '09 is "his conference" has proved to be a fairly bad event organizer this year. It is no surprise to me that Adobe and some other regular exhibiters will not be there this year.
After years of attending MacWorld Expo, I registered for my free exhibit hall pass and "opted out" of any email. Having become ill and unable to work anymore, I am resigned to live on Social Security Disability Income, which means I can no longer pay for things that most can.
I have a hard time managing spam and used all of the available options to stop the spam from the event organizers including calling them on the phone several times, but it kept coming....relentlessly. I finally sent my return spam with nasty replies and demands to stop shoveling the difficult to manage spam to all listed individuals on the site, as no one listed had a title such as manager or the like. Mr. Kent raised his head and proclaimed that the event was "his conference" and summarily cancelled my registration because he did not like my anger; it seems that we have to endure the spam, regardless of how difficult it is to do so, or not have equal access to the free event pass.
Shame on Mr. Kent. I am not surprised that others are not attending, though for other reasons. Mr. Kent should be replaced with someone who makes better decisions and knows how to get the large draw exhibiters and attendees needed to have a good draw and a strong audience.
I am very angry about this and would like to hear from any others who have had similar interactions with Mr. Kent or the show promoters.
As of now, I am boycotting the event I have been attending since the 1980s.
Paul Kent, who claims that MacWorld Expo '09 is "his conference" has proved to be a fairly bad event organizer this year. It is no surprise to me that Adobe and some other regular exhibiters will not be there this year.
After years of attending MacWorld Expo, I registered for my free exhibit hall pass and "opted out" of any email. Having become ill and unable to work anymore, I am resigned to live on Social Security Disability Income, which means I can no longer pay for things that most can.
I have a hard time managing spam and used all of the available options to stop the spam from the event organizers including calling them on the phone several times, but it kept coming....relentlessly. I finally sent my return spam with nasty replies and demands to stop shoveling the difficult to manage spam to all listed individuals on the site, as no one listed had a title such as manager or the like. Mr. Kent raised his head and proclaimed that the event was "his conference" and summarily cancelled my registration because he did not like my anger; it seems that we have to endure the spam, regardless of how difficult it is to do so, or not have equal access to the free event pass.
Shame on Mr. Kent. I am not surprised that others are not attending, though for other reasons. Mr. Kent should be replaced with someone who makes better decisions and knows how to get the large draw exhibiters and attendees needed to have a good draw and a strong audience.
I am very angry about this and would like to hear from any others who have had similar interactions with Mr. Kent or the show promoters.
As of now, I am boycotting the event I have been attending since the 1980s.
Yup, Channel 7 KGO TV News in San Francisco, California, just reported 600 layoffs from Adobe's 7,000 employees. Everything will probably go up in price...
I'm not surprised. Apple seems to be doing everything in their power to usher Adobe's type of user off the platform.
I preferred MWNY myself. Either way, I miss having a late summer/ fall consumer show, especially for the other coast. Its just not the same having the announcements split between the developer oriented WWDC and a bunch of smaller events in the fall. Besides, there's just something about the big Apple and Apple that just fit well together.
Well I think the economy definately has a lot to do with it. My old company cancelled a $1mil setup at CES back in 2002 with the aftermath of 9/11. Quick decisions happen like that when the books look stressed.
So with a big announcement like that I'm not so surprised.
Let's also not forget that adobe already had a CS4 opening party in Sept. And let's ESPECIALLY not forget that Adobe just hosted their own major conference, Adobe MAX in the same facility, no less. And noticably NOT present at MAX was Apple. So this was probably an easy withdrawl for adobe given all those circumstances
Don't forget, premier cs4 is now back on the mac. So competition is brewing amongst them again.
So with a big announcement like that I'm not so surprised.
Let's also not forget that adobe already had a CS4 opening party in Sept. And let's ESPECIALLY not forget that Adobe just hosted their own major conference, Adobe MAX in the same facility, no less. And noticably NOT present at MAX was Apple. So this was probably an easy withdrawl for adobe given all those circumstances
Don't forget, premier cs4 is now back on the mac. So competition is brewing amongst them again.
Just the beginning
With the economy in depression, it is no wonder that Adobe feels the pain. We are a small company and we were about to automatically update the C3 web applications to C4 versions. We decided instead to look into alternatives and have now switched from Dreamworks to the free Aptana Studio. The quality of free software has completely surprised us and without the current economic situation we would not have noticed it.
I think Adobe will have to reduce prices fast if they want to retain their customers.
With the economy in depression, it is no wonder that Adobe feels the pain. We are a small company and we were about to automatically update the C3 web applications to C4 versions. We decided instead to look into alternatives and have now switched from Dreamworks to the free Aptana Studio. The quality of free software has completely surprised us and without the current economic situation we would not have noticed it.
I think Adobe will have to reduce prices fast if they want to retain their customers.
Hmm...
You would think that with all the money that people have given them over the years, they could atleast have a booth at MacWorld...
You would think that with all the money that people have given them over the years, they could atleast have a booth at MacWorld...
Take it from someone who has run a marketing department, trade show booths are barely justifiable in the best of times. You can do nearly as well at these shows through sessions and private suites. Really, sometimes I think the only point of the boots is to show you have a lot of money to waste. For smaller, less well-known companies sometimes a floor presence helps them with media attention, but for a big company like Adobe there are other mosre cost-effective means of achieving the same thing.
Shocking considering that Adobe's software is quite expensive. Upgrades for Adobe products cost the same price as buying a new product from most other software companies. Maybe they should lower their prices so more people could afford to buy more of their software.
