Renamed, as Animate CC, but not removed, and not in this update. The change will happen in 2016, supposedly.
Details are here: https://blogs.adobe.com/flashpro/welcome-adobe-animate-cc-a-new-era-for-flash-professional/
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Adobe November 2015 Creative Cloud Update Includes New Features for Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects and More
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Details are here: https://blogs.adobe.com/flashpro/welcome-adobe-animate-cc-a-new-era-for-flash-professional/
I deleted the Apps and then installed them all again. I'm now seeing a new UI, at least for Photoshop. I've not opened up anything else yet.
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Not a full Windows port, the Macs lack touch and pen support so only a partial Windows port.
Sorry, couldn't help myself
Adobe seems more focused on Apple stuff anyway. I doubt the Win versions are functionally much better, but screen integration is better.
Well, I used to be a PS user, something like 10 years ago, and it was a great software. Don't know today.
Flash basically is malware, so every of my devices are Flash free since the last year.
I don't know and Im curious about all the other professional applications.
iTunes is not bloatware by any means ....
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Downloaded the trial for Photoshop, looks quite nice, they fixed several major bugs so it's now compatible with El Capitan (it "only" took them 3 months which is pretty good, it usually takes them 3-4 years to properly start supporting a new version of OS X). It no longer crashes when you zoom in or out or when you quit the app, which is pretty cool. Overall it looks like it's back to where it was a few years ago in terms of stability and lack of bugs, which is welcome. Let's hope we won't find some new horrible bugs to take the place of the old ones!
I will never, EVER forgive Adobe for the continued abuse they subjected their customer base to. Their acquisition of Macromedia was stupid as hell (Flash ended up dying off, now, didn't it?) and should have never been allowed in the first place by regulators (its only real use was killing off FreeHand, something that rubbed a lot – and I mean A LOT – of designers the wrong way, and, to add insult to injury, it took them too long to add some of its functionality – multiple artboards come to mind – into Ai's clunky interface, and some of it is still MIA – FH's superb pen tool being one egregious omission) and their CC-only model was the final nail in the coffin.
I very much look forward to watch them die a sad, protracted death at the hands of their competition. Because, yes, we collectively woke up and started looking for alternatives, and so did their competitors, which are indeed rising up to the challenge. Check out the ADA-winning Ai clone Affinity Designer and its Photoshop clone sibling, Affinity Photo (which, by the way, will be joined by an InDesign clone by the end of next year, Affinity Publisher, a much trumped and as yet unnamed DAM to fill in the void left by Aperture and go head-to-head with Lightroom and iOS ports of the whole suite – where it actually began its life, hence its insane optimization… And, who knows, by Windows ports one day?), by UK-based Serif.
https://affinity.serif.com/
I am not getting any compensation from these guys; it's just that I really wish to see Adobe crash and burn, they do deserve it (not the devs, but the upper management? Oh yes, they do deserve to fail, big time). And I was very much a fan of them, albeit begrudgingly (much like I am a fan of Apple despite their sometimes OCD-ish nanny-like attitude towards power users), but enough is enough. They were already arrogant to begin with but are becoming more and more complacent, and their CC business model is the worst offender, as it exempts them from innovating at the pace they should, quite unlike what they announced when they did the switch to said model. Nagromme is dead right on that.
For comparison, the whole of the Affinity suite common engine was developed in under four years (!!), and multiple artboard and Pantone colour support was made available in a bit over one year since the first betas were released, free of charge to MAS customers. The whole suite, when completed, will also cost 1/2 of CS6 Design Standard for Education or 1/4 of CS6 Design Standard (minus Acrobat Pro but, then again, those users who own it can keep using their old version, switch to a probably cheaper alternative, or even make do with Affinity's export engine), and we're talking about a perpetual licence here; if those guys are managing to stay afloat, their business model is probably sound. Even so, if they keep this pace, I will gladly buy any of the “Affinity 2” components I have use for all over again if that's what it takes them to finance a fully-featured, cross-platform suite that can really rival Adobe in production environments.
They have a very strong following, and keep a rather healthy relationship with their users on their forums; we actually *enjoy* being their beta-testers, as we're allowed a sneak peek into future developments and, even better, to help actually shape them into our liking. Maybe they'll run into a “if we ask our users what they want, they'll tell us they want ‘a faster horse’” juncture but, for now, since they are trying to replace CS/CC design apps altogether, it seems to be the best way to go about it.
I very much look forward to watch them die a sad, protracted death at the hands of their competition. Because, yes, we collectively woke up and started looking for alternatives, and so did their competitors, which are indeed rising up to the challenge. Check out the ADA-winning Ai clone Affinity Designer and its Photoshop clone sibling, Affinity Photo (which, by the way, will be joined by an InDesign clone by the end of next year, Affinity Publisher, a much trumped and as yet unnamed DAM to fill in the void left by Aperture and go head-to-head with Lightroom and iOS ports of the whole suite – where it actually began its life, hence its insane optimization… And, who knows, by Windows ports one day?), by UK-based Serif.
https://affinity.serif.com/
I am not getting any compensation from these guys; it's just that I really wish to see Adobe crash and burn, they do deserve it (not the devs, but the upper management? Oh yes, they do deserve to fail, big time). And I was very much a fan of them, albeit begrudgingly (much like I am a fan of Apple despite their sometimes OCD-ish nanny-like attitude towards power users), but enough is enough. They were already arrogant to begin with but are becoming more and more complacent, and their CC business model is the worst offender, as it exempts them from innovating at the pace they should, quite unlike what they announced when they did the switch to said model. Nagromme is dead right on that.
For comparison, the whole of the Affinity suite common engine was developed in under four years (!!), and multiple artboard and Pantone colour support was made available in a bit over one year since the first betas were released, free of charge to MAS customers. The whole suite, when completed, will also cost 1/2 of CS6 Design Standard for Education or 1/4 of CS6 Design Standard (minus Acrobat Pro but, then again, those users who own it can keep using their old version, switch to a probably cheaper alternative, or even make do with Affinity's export engine), and we're talking about a perpetual licence here; if those guys are managing to stay afloat, their business model is probably sound. Even so, if they keep this pace, I will gladly buy any of the “Affinity 2” components I have use for all over again if that's what it takes them to finance a fully-featured, cross-platform suite that can really rival Adobe in production environments.
They have a very strong following, and keep a rather healthy relationship with their users on their forums; we actually *enjoy* being their beta-testers, as we're allowed a sneak peek into future developments and, even better, to help actually shape them into our liking. Maybe they'll run into a “if we ask our users what they want, they'll tell us they want ‘a faster horse’” juncture but, for now, since they are trying to replace CS/CC design apps altogether, it seems to be the best way to go about it.
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My quick but loving tribute to Adobe Flash. Rest in peace, buddy. https://twitter.com/AlexBurby/status/671703813028487168/photo/1
Because it's way more expensive for people who only use a few components of the suite? And as a matter of principle, since you used to get perpetual licences which you could and still can conceivably use to open your work forever (even if you have to resort to some tricks like virtualization), even if for some reason (unemployment, retirement) you stopped paying for the subscription (which would force you to pay up later and install a newer version, potentially incompatible with your older artwork… Take the botched FreeHand-to-Illustrator transition; as a matter of fact, Affinity Designer does a better job than Ai in converting older FreeHand documents by reverse-engineering Macromedia's formats, while Adobe owns the frigging IP to those and doesn't bother to even provide a decent converter for current CC versions or in standalone form… What about forcing you to pay for newer versions even if you didn't want to upgrade to them and upgrade your OS because of some big investment in older, unsupported peripherals)?
I honestly don't get why us anti-CC crowd *have* to keep explaining ourselves all the time. It's our decision, and it's based on facts and sound financial and business reasoning; we respect (albeit in an admittedly snarky way, but we do) that your choice to embark on Adobe's racketeering scheme may actually fit your bleeding-edge professional lifestyle perfectly, if you can afford that overall, but please understand and respect our reasoning as well. Some of us freelancers (and small-to-medium-sized businesses) work in less well-off countries and have to make-do with older gear and stay a bit behind the software and hardware curve, and still do fine professionally doing just that and working only in one or two fields, unlike the ADD-riddled, unspecialized youngsters trying to find their voice and field who can actually benefit from the CC model because it empowers them to do just that. To each his own, I guess… But being force-fed sometimes useless or untimely upgrades just to feed the corporate and monopolistic beast that Adobe has become is just unpalatable.
Finally, if I may add my €0,02 about subscriptions in general:
They make a lot of sense in some fields, like media (Spotify/Apple Music/online newspapers…), or services (ISPs, cloud storage…), and they may even make sense, for some (or even a majority!), even for professional tools. But the fact of the matter is that not even Microsoft, of all companies, has fully transitioned their main cash-cow, Office, to the subscription model. Because they are not effing morons and understand that catering to niches, which is VERY easy when it comes to software development and even EASIER when it comes to software licensing, just makes a lot of business sense, period. Adobe's decision of going CC-only (while still offering a perpetual licence option for Lightroom, which speaks volumes and contradicts their main strategy) reeks of greed and will bite them in the a$$, very soon.
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I didn't ask you to explain yourself.
Not interested in what a long winded, insufferable moonbat carries on endlessly about.
I asked logicstudiouser because he/she didn't say why.
Oh and congratulations on being appointed tinfoil spokesclown of the 'anti-CC' mob.
Or did you anoint yourself with that dubious title in a mad fit of hubric self importance?
CC is 20% off through tomorrow.
Such a deal.
Good luck.
The hate for subscription models is silly here. As an editor, I've used all three NLEs. FCPX is the only one offering updates for free--which is probably atonement for pissing off the huge FCP7 user base.
But truth be told, subscriptions make sense--Walter Murch just mentioned that he and Joel Coen discussed the perks of cutting features in Premiere Pro over lunch.
For the first time in NLE history, they are able to email the Adobe staff, ask for new features, and get them 3 months later.
But truth be told, subscriptions make sense--Walter Murch just mentioned that he and Joel Coen discussed the perks of cutting features in Premiere Pro over lunch.
For the first time in NLE history, they are able to email the Adobe staff, ask for new features, and get them 3 months later.
If you're a professional or a business, software is a tax deductible expense.
In today's widespread broadband era software should be able to adapt, grow and rapidly respond to bugs and user requests. The old paradigm of a yearly update and software houses losing revenue to piracy makes it much harder for software to be truly modern. In the future you will run these apps directly from the cloud.
That said. Fuse is far from being a Daz/Poser competitor.
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Adobe Premiere Pro latest version not working on el capitan anymore
Error message no compatible display driver available
Error message no compatible display driver available
I am a subscriber to the Photographer CC 2105 bundle. My copy of PS CC 2015 would not update via Creative Cloud updater. I had to reload PS from the Adobe website and then update from the basic 2015 version. I see from the web, that others have had the same problem.
The interfaces of the tools are a bit flatter looking like the change from OS 10.9 Mavericks to OS 10.10 Yosemite in appearance. There are also more readily accessible options on various tools. The saturation adjustment layer now works better for removing chromatic aberration and is pretty effective. I personally don't like the new start up workspace but it is easy to turn that off in general presences.
The interfaces of the tools are a bit flatter looking like the change from OS 10.9 Mavericks to OS 10.10 Yosemite in appearance. There are also more readily accessible options on various tools. The saturation adjustment layer now works better for removing chromatic aberration and is pretty effective. I personally don't like the new start up workspace but it is easy to turn that off in general presences.
I don't understand the hatred for Subscription Models. For me they are a positive step forwards.
My business has spent thousand and thousands on Adobe site licenses in the past. When we do well, we take on more developers, and we rent their software. When contracts finish we reduce our staffing and finish paying the subscription. Four coders for six months is a hell of a lot cheaper than four site licenses in perpetuity. But the very best thing is we are all end up using the same versions of the software. We all know what a pain that can be when that current file can't be use on that machine as it only has CS5.5 installed!
If you have bought into your version of Photoshop CS6, or similar, then you were obviously once very successful as it cost you a fortune. You have a great piece of software that will work for some years, knock yourself out and go create.
If you don't see how much you stand to save by going subscription I wonder that you have ever really paid for software before in your life. Adobe's biggest problem over the years was piracy, freeloaders who loved hunting down that KeyGen app to get them in for free. Those days are over for them, get your wallet and pay them for the work they have done.
The last feature I love about this is for new people to the businesses you are in. When I started I had to be imaginative about how I procured software as I had no income stream to work with. Now you can sign up for the equivalent of $12 a month. How easy is that?
My business has spent thousand and thousands on Adobe site licenses in the past. When we do well, we take on more developers, and we rent their software. When contracts finish we reduce our staffing and finish paying the subscription. Four coders for six months is a hell of a lot cheaper than four site licenses in perpetuity. But the very best thing is we are all end up using the same versions of the software. We all know what a pain that can be when that current file can't be use on that machine as it only has CS5.5 installed!
If you have bought into your version of Photoshop CS6, or similar, then you were obviously once very successful as it cost you a fortune. You have a great piece of software that will work for some years, knock yourself out and go create.
If you don't see how much you stand to save by going subscription I wonder that you have ever really paid for software before in your life. Adobe's biggest problem over the years was piracy, freeloaders who loved hunting down that KeyGen app to get them in for free. Those days are over for them, get your wallet and pay them for the work they have done.
The last feature I love about this is for new people to the businesses you are in. When I started I had to be imaginative about how I procured software as I had no income stream to work with. Now you can sign up for the equivalent of $12 a month. How easy is that?
I think most of the subscription haters were the folk who skip one or two generations of the software. However, I imagine the feeling between them and Adobe was mutual.
This is why I shook my head when people suggested Lightroom as a replacement for the retired Aperture.
Yeah, not in Adobe's dreams will I install that crap on my computer.
Anyone finding Creative Cloud now crashes randomly but regularly since the update? As for the subscription model, for a software company to try and support 'old' software is a nightmare and with so many 'associated' changes to things like camera raw formats and new lens it becomes even more of an issue. All of thee go away with the subscription model.
I was one of the (many) customers who skipped PS versions but now I have got used to the new model it isn't so bad and I had to make a change anyway as PS CS 5 couldn't now be updated in the uK to CS 6 and so my D810 raw files could not be used in PS without moving to CC . Don't start me on MS Office for Mac however!
I was one of the (many) customers who skipped PS versions but now I have got used to the new model it isn't so bad and I had to make a change anyway as PS CS 5 couldn't now be updated in the uK to CS 6 and so my D810 raw files could not be used in PS without moving to CC . Don't start me on MS Office for Mac however!