Adobe Photoshop / Creative Suite 3 on March 27th?

[ChrisA]

This is a non-event.

I can see Apple doing this...
CS3, which requires 10.5... so... here's 10.5. and to show it off, our new Mac Pro Octo!

yup... I can see it now..

CS3 has been out in Beta form for a long time now. We know pretty much what it looks like and what it does. It does NOT require Leopard. Adobe would have to be stupid to beta test something for so long, work out the bugs and then have the "real" release be different from the beta. We can be very sure there will be no surprises. The release of CS3 is a non-event All it really means is that now you owe Adobe an upgrade fee and the free version of CS3 will stop working.

 

[tribulation]

what's even in the CS3 suite?

while i know the photoshop cs3 beta is about, what about the other universal cs3 apps? have they even definitely said what will be the choice apps for the suite yet?

photoshop of course, illustrator, and then dreamweaver [has this ever even been confirmed besides rumors?], fireworks I think, and indesign? anyone know if that is actually confirmed by anyone. has anybody seen a universal version of indesign or illustrator yet on here? i wish i had that beta.

 

[ChrisA]

Alright!

This is the news I was waiting to hear. This means the new Mac Pro release is very immenent! I think it was fairly well accepted that Apple was a little reluctant to upgrade the Mac Pro until the premier industry photo suite went universal.

I have been waiting on purchasing a new Mac Pro ever since gen 1 came out last summer.

You, me and a few thousand more, I assume were all thinking they didn't really want an Intel Mac if it was just going to be running Rosetta 80% of the time.

But now maybe I don't need a Mac Pro. The 24" iMac may be good enough. CS3 seems to run about 60% faster than CS2. So I figure if you were happy with CS2 on a Mac Pro then you'd be just as happy with CS3 on a machine that is 1/2 the speed of a Mac Pro. (Notice the "if".)

 

[smueboy]

All right!! Bring it on, i have cash in hand.

 

[zoozx]

Photoshop in CS3 better have more to it than the beta did, Yes I know intel But new featues were a non event!

 

[pito189]

My Illustrator CS2 rarely crashes -- maybe like 4 times in a year and we use it all day long, everyday -- curious are you on a G5 or Mac Pro

Core Duo MBP. It crashes when using pathfinder, symbol sprayer, and a number of others. The only work around that has been found so far is to open illustrator, close the apprearance window, close illustrator and then reopen and then it doesn't crash. But if you open the appearance window at any time, you have to go back through the whole process again.

Those are the times it crashes, and its really annoying and only happens when I haven't saved it a good while. I have had to train myself to save every single time I do anything now.

 

[bradc]

And one of the most pirated programs by April!

1. Windows
2. MS Office
3. Adobe Suite

 

[Maccus Aurelius]

Even if it doesn't add stupendous new features, so long as it has all of the features of CS2 plus a bit more and Universal Binary I'm sold. The speed problems with CS-CS2 on Intel Macs is the only major concern I can think of, especially for the laptops. A UB Creative Suite would seriously make my millenium for me and my Macbook, so it can be a proper mobile art studio without the serious speed deficit and extra processor tasking with Rosetta emulating everything.

 

[andiwm2003]

why so many different versions of the suite?

and is there any chance that photoshop gets cheaper? some other pro software also got significantly cheaper over time. if not i'll have to wait for PSE

 

[cbud]

You, me and a few thousand more, I assume were all thinking they didn't really want an Intel Mac if it was just going to be running Rosetta 80% of the time...

Then there's the few thousand others who did not buy an Intel Mac for this very reason. I wonder how much of a sales boost Apple will see when this and Office 2007 come out as UB. As soon as CS3, Office 2007, and Leopard come out I know will buy an Intel iMac. Would of bought one months ago otherwise.

 

[Sam0r]

Ok, great. Whats happening with dreamweaver?

 

[volvoben]

why so many different versions of the suite?

and is there any chance that photoshop gets cheaper? some other pro software also got significantly cheaper over time. if not i'll have to wait for PSE

The huge (vista-like) number of packages are at least partly because of Adobe's acquisition of Macromedia. With flash dreamweaver etc etc added in, they're covering a pretty large base of customers, most of whom will not need all of the programs. they need some kind of web package for designers with flash etc, a basic design one, a premium design one, acrobat will be tossed in somewhere, but truthfully I don't know how the estimate of 16 or however many he said was made...I would have guessed 6 or so, but i guess they might distinguish between windows/mac, and toss on lots of 'premium' and 'standard' options for each package.

I wouldn't count on a reduced price. It would be fantastic, but the problem is that Adobe has no real competition. They don't need to lower prices, they have us by the....well, you know.

The ridiculous price is pretty lousy though, I can understand piracy much more when the program costs so darn much. My 13 year old cousin does photography and organizes newsletters and such for his sports teams and school. Could he use other programs? sure, but he wants to have a career in graphic design, and he knows knowledge of adobe creative suite is absolutely required. i'd give him my cs1 license but he's on windows. With luck though my girlfriend, who works and takes classes at harvard, can get cs3 for $200, the same price we paid for cs2. It feels great to pay a reasonable price for legal software. I don't know what I'd do without her...her discount, I mean.

I think if adobe had photoshop for around $80 and a standard suite for ~$300 I think they'd really be able to cut down on piracy, but that'll never happen. Windows and MSoffice have the same problem: industry standard software, enormous market-share, but they're too expensive for most people to afford. The key to avoiding piracy is pricing your software so that most users won't find it easier to do illegal stuff. There's a good 5% that will always steal no matter how cheap, but if 95% of your software use is legal you'll be in a great position.

 

[awesomebase]

Adobe

Adobe, listen to me... I know have a new Photoshop program every year is gravy for you, but we need something much more important... BRING BACK FRAMEMAKER!! That is by far one of your best applications and it is desperately needed for the OS X environment.

 

[D3LM3L]

Why do you doubt that? My first thought was this is indicative of Leopard's release date.

Leopard is nowhere near ready for release. The latest build is incredibly buggy and has nothing "special" in it, nevermind those 10 zomgsupertopsecret features Steve Dear promised us. When Tiger was this close to release, it was almost as stable as the final version. It only had ~10 known bugs.

 

[MacMyDay]

About time. I'm losing money daily through running this on Intel Macs. In fact, my designers 20" iMac hardly gets any use as he finds it unbearable to run Photoshop on it, so he uses a 4 year old PC instead.

 

[Peace]

Leopard is nowhere near ready for release. The latest build is incredibly buggy and has nothing "special" in it, nevermind those 10 zomgsupertopsecret features Steve Dear promised us. When Tiger was this close to release, it was almost as stable as the final version. It only had ~10 known bugs.

Do you ever read your own signature ?

 

[flyinmac]

Do you ever read your own signature ?

Yes, his signature defeats his argument.

By his argument, Leopard isn't ready because it contains too many bugs.

But, by his signature, Leopard is prime because it has sufficient bugs to be nearly finished.

Quite an argument he's making

 

[Maccus Aurelius]

About time. I'm losing money daily through running this on Intel Macs. In fact, my designers 20" iMac hardly gets any use as he finds it unbearable to run Photoshop on it, so he uses a 4 year old PC instead.

And this is the result of bad consumer research. Anyone who is looking to get a workhorse Mac should always check how the computer will handle your software. It was well known during the release of the first intel macs that many applications would not be running native, but rather on Rosetta, an unseen app that Apple was very willing to divulge about all the time. This applied to most if not all of the major production software for OS X including all of Adobe's Suite software.

If you were to do your homework before purchasing a computer, you would've gone with a PowerPC system so that you wouldn't run into this kind of trouble. Apple may have pushed out the PPC units from their main site, but PPC units were and still are available at lots of vendors, since, after all, they were only discontinued at the end of last year.

My uncle's employer still uses PowerMac G5's until the release of Adobe UB applications, because until then they can't afford the inherent instability and speed problems.

 

[4JNA]

it will be interesting to see how the value of the G5 systems hold up after the release. they are already dropping like rocks, and this can't help!

time to sell of the G5 laptop on ebay...

 

[flyinmac]

it will be interesting to see how the value of the G5 systems hold up after the release. they are already dropping like rocks, and this can't help!

Yes, I expect they'll be bottoming out soon.

I already have seen them selling in the very, very low thousand dollar area.

 

[gugy]

I can see Apple doing this...
CS3, which requires 10.5... so... here's 10.5. and to show it off, our new Mac Pro Octo!

yup... I can see it now..

True,
It feels that NAB will be the place where the new Mac Pro will be announce.
Just look at that.
Adobe CS3 end of March.
Leopard end of March or earlier April
MacPro at NAB (April 14-19)

Makes perfect sense. Mac Pro octo-core will utilize full power of Adobe and Apple's Leopard.
then at WWDC, new MacBook Pro's

Bring it on!

 

[MediaConsumer]

Cool, any chance of them FINALLY releasing an Intel version of Shockwave Player? It gets annoying having to run Safari in Rosetta mode every time I want to use shockwave, and it's not exactally very stable, the games I play will just freeze randomly for no reason.

They are working on this, but the new version won't be ready until August.

Adobe, listen to me... I know have a new Photoshop program every year is gravy for you, but we need something much more important... BRING BACK FRAMEMAKER!! That is by far one of your best applications and it is desperately needed for the OS X environment.

I'm still pissed off at them for ditching FrameMaker. There is still nothing out there that compares well with FM.

 

[todd2000]

They are working on this, but the new version won't be ready until August.

Where did you get this info? August you say?? This is taking forever, thats literally the only thing that I use that my iMac can't run nativly. I guess they have to finish the UB of Macromedia Studio, before they release a UB of the Player?

 

[Rychiar]

i been enjoyin the beta for months now of photoshop but it will def be nice to aquire the whole suite and have plugins enabled

 

[AppleMan101]

For once, a credible rumour?

Tuesday March 27th lines up very well for a big release, maybe cs3, but 5 days later (sunday april 1st) it's apple's bday...leopard? (I dont know what theyr going to do about the sunday, im sure we'll fin out). Together with this and somme other rumours about a march release for leopard...the pieces fit. PLUS the fact we know that 10.4.9 is all but finished, which may (or may not) provide support for features in iLife '07.4 which will be *dependant* on leopard. AND, as so many people were keen to point out earlier this year, spring begins on march 21st (well, in a lot of places).

So a lot of interesting coincedences, hopefully we'll get something tasty.

Apologies for this being hard to read ( ?), AppleMan is very tired. Time for bed.