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Anyone with an M1 Mac who can test Capture One?
Yeah, I'd love to see that too. Using it professionally on a Late 2018 MBP, 32 GB ram and VEGA20, and I have a feeling that the M1's might destroy it – even for Capture One 20/21 beta under Rosetta 2.
 
If it’s anything like iPad photoshop you can probably wait another year before installing.

Edited to add: As a paying subscriber to all CC apps, Adobe is possibly the laziest modern software development company in existence. I really wish more competition pops up so I can cancel my sub.
Affinity suite is awesome and it doesn’t need us to subscribe monthly payment. The problem is almost all industries ask for AI and PSD and that won’t change anytime soon.
 
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Oh man, I hope they do the same with After Effects and completely rewrite it. Also, I hope they actually optimise it for Apple Silicon.

I'll be first to snap up an AS device if they bring improvements over the current platform. Hell, if they optimised it based on what we saw yesterday with the Cinebench results on a 16" MBP or iMac it would blitz through rendering and ram previews like nothing we saw before.
 
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This is really unacceptable. Adobe has had access to development machines since WWDC. There is no reason for them to not be ready right now.
They are on there own release schedule unfortunately. Mostly cause of the size and age of code in their products. Newer companies who were born during the last 10 years have it easier with fewer people. Adobe is a dinosaur till they completely redo there apps. Coming from a Photoshop / Lightroom user.
 
I'm laughing at all the folks calling Adobe "lazy", for not having any of its software ready the day Big Sur dropped. As I said in another thread a few days ago, they aren't some small independent developer like Pixelmator who only really have to worry about getting ONE new application ready for Big Sur and Apple Silicon. Adobe have over 30+ pieces of software they have to work on.

Regardless of Developer kit availability, regardless of Big Sur beta availability, they need more time. They aren't altering small applications, think of just how big applications like Photoshop, Illustrator, and After Effects are.

I've been using Photoshop since version 7.0 as my main driver for graphic design. I'm still using Photoshop to this day, and as much as I can sing the praises for Pixelmator, whom I do absolutely adore and have used for years alongside Photoshop, they aren't industry standard.. so I will be sticking with Adobe and Photoshop for a few more years yet.

As for the beta? If you are unhappy with Adobes progress, and you have access to a new M1 based Mac, download the beta and put it through its paces and send them feedback on everything. Open massive files with 100's of layers, apply complex filters and stretch fonts to the size of the moon. Do everything you can to push it to the limits and if something bugs out send feedback.
 
From what I understand Rosetta can’t emulate all x86 instructions yet. And it’s not only Adobe struggling also some fairly easy other tools are reported to not run through Rosetta (i.e. Atom editor).
Hmmm 🤔 this isn't what Apple’s message has been to us. I just assumed apps would work albeit slower under Rosetta 2. Quite disappointing.

Non tech folks are going to be upset their apps don't work.
 
Unfortunately the x86 version doesn’t work through on Rosetta 2 at all. Crashes on start. Same with Acrobat, haven’t tried other Adobe tools so far but guess it’s similar.
Aren't all apps that can run on Intel Macs with Catalina automatically compatible with Rosetta 2?
 
Curious to see how long it’ll take to have a final build....
No faith in Adobe anymore after the disgusting Photoshop for iPad release, especially after all the hype and unkept promises.
 
Affinity Photo has replaced Photoshop for me, no regrets whatsoever. I have been trying to find a Lightroom Classic replacement for years, unsuccessfully. Capture One has been a big disappointment on the library management part, really weak. I recently crossed back from the Windows world where ACDSee is a credible alternative, but that is not the case on the Mac. Now I fear Lightroom Classic will take forever to work on AS. How can they code so badly that it won’t even run on Rosetta? I mean, Office 365 is fully supported on Rosetta !
I'm in the same boat, although I've switched to Lightroom CC from Classic because I'm doing mostly iPhone photography at this point. I can edit in Darkroom on iOS (and now on Mac thanks to their universal build) and in Affinity Photo on Mac. But I haven't found anything that works as well for DAM than LR.
 
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Unfortunately the x86 version doesn’t work through on Rosetta 2 at all. Crashes on start. Same with Acrobat, haven’t tried other Adobe tools so far but guess it’s similar.
really - this could be a blessing as they will be forced to clean up their existing x86 code - looks like they are using a lot of legacy stuff and/or custom Intel MMX code
 
Sorry, this might be a silly question, but, does the old Intel-apps run on the Silicon-platform at all, or do they all need to be either updated - or is there some sort of internal emulation (e.g. Rosetta 2?) that will run the apps, but just slower due to them not being native? So pretty much, will you able to start Intel-apps from an previous Intel Macbook's time machine backup, or are we looking at a long time with incompability?
 
this could be a blessing as they will be forced to clean up their existing x86 code
I hope so, but without losing existing features. Companies that have rewritten code for software has lost features never to bring them back. Apple comes to mind with Pages.
 
It's probably not financially viable for Adobe but I wish they would pull an Apple and start fresh. There has to be 20+ year-old code in there.
 
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Oh man, I hope they do the same with After Effects and completely rewrite it. Also, I hope they actually optimise it for Apple Silicon.
Lol .. AE?? :). They stopped multicore support in 2014 after a core rewrite! in 2020 we still dont have multicore rendering in AE. Adobe is a JOKE !!! I really dont know what they are doing except adding AI features like content aware fill, sky replacement. We dont need that! We need the fastest and most stable piece of software!
 
Sorry, this might be a silly question, but, does the old Intel-apps run on the Silicon-platform at all, or do they all need to be either updated - or is there some sort of internal emulation (e.g. Rosetta 2?) that will run the apps, but just slower due to them not being native? So pretty much, will you able to start Intel-apps from an previous Intel Macbook's time machine backup, or are we looking at a long time with incompability?
I hope you are not trolling us - this is a known issue since June WWDC - Rosetta 2 will run most apps unchanged but as usual in this conversions there might be an app YOU use/must have for work not compatible - you would need to make sure it works before upgrading

 
Can't understand all the Adobe hate. They literally offer you all the software you need in exchange for what you make in one hour per month while using it. They could charge 5x that and it would still be cheap.
You must be extremely fortunate with what you make in an hour.
 
I hope you are not trolling us - this is a known issue since June WWDC - Rosetta 2 will run most apps unchanged but as usual in this conversions there might be an app YOU use/must have for work not compatible - you would need to make sure it works before upgrading

No trolling, just apparently slow. :D
But great, thanks for the info, and again, the evidently silly question. :)
 
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