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Adobe Releases Another Emergency Update for Flash

I used to update my Flash only once in a blue moon. No malware attacks. The trick is to stay away from Russian and Chinese websites and use AdBlock.
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And FlashBlock, which has the advantage of not eating your CPU to run some random pretty pretty animation you don't need.
 
Michael Goff said:
Technically so does Flash.
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No it doesn't. Flash hogs the CPU and has all these huge vulnerabilities. What's wrong with QuickTime? There's not even very much that could go wrong with a video player.

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rols said:
And FlashBlock, which has the advantage of not eating your CPU to run some random pretty pretty animation you don't need.
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I've got something like that too. On top of that, Safari warns me if a site wants to load Flash and lets me allow it if I want. I only ever need to use it for Papa John's Pizza.
 
CylonGlitch said:
I haven't used flash in a few years. I used to use Chrome for my Flash needs; but I have also removed that from my tool suite. Now I just enabled the Developer menu in Safari and if Youtube doesn't load the video; I switch the User Agent to "iOS Safari 6.1 -- iPad" and it always works.
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Yvan256 said:
And if YouTube says a video is not available in HTML5 using Safari, enable the "Develop" menu and change your user-agent to "Internet Explorer 10". Funny how a video can't play in Safari in HTML5 until you tell YouTube/Google that you're not using an Apple product. Then it just work for some reason. :rolleyes:

One more reason to distrust Google.
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I'd like to thank you both for the information on using the "Develop" menu for chose either iOS 6.1 or IE-10.

I went to Adobe's site, downloaded and ran the flash uninstaller, deleted the directories they suggested, and then rebooted my desktop.

Link to Adobe's site to uninstall Flash..…
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/uninstall-flash-player-mac-os.html

I then found some YouTube videos that would not play without Flash, and some that loaded slowly under HTML5, and tried both the iOS 6.1 and IE-10 settings from the Developer menu.

The videos that required Flash played just as if I had Flash installed. Also, the videos that played strangle under HTML5 seemed to load faster and play smoother when using the iOS 6.1 or IE-10 setting.

So for now I will leave Flash off my system and with luck I will not need it for anything else in the future.

Almost forgot…. I'm using Safari as my browser and running Mountain Lion 10.8.5 in case that makes a difference.

Thanks,

Jon…

PS: I had to laugh when I returned to this site to post this comment and got a pop-up letting me know I did not have the Flash plugin installed :)
 
MahBoi said:
No it doesn't. Flash hogs the CPU and has all these huge vulnerabilities. What's wrong with QuickTime? There's not even very much that could go wrong with a video player.

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I've got something like that too. On top of that, Safari warns me if a site wants to load Flash and lets me allow it if I want. I only ever need to use it for Papa John's Pizza.
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Flash had 56 vulnerabilities fixed in 2013. Not 56 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, just 56. That's it. Also, what's wrong with QuickTime? I can tell you one huge problem I've had with it.

It sucks as a video player.

"But it runs everything I need it to".

In theory, it ran the type of file I threw at it. I even went to the page they have to check. It's stuck trying to convert an avi file. QuickTime can supposedly play avi files. MXplayer? It just PLAYS it.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...uthkey=!AOe1SbIgFFYOrIs&v=3&ithint=photo,.png
 
There is some functionality in flash that is difficult to replace, and that is printing. You can format a page and send it to the printer and bypass the ugly browser printing capabilities (browsers still suck at printing, no ida why).
But the question is, is there an alternative ?
 
I just downloaded the latest version. It was definitely from the official site but I had loads of pages open in safari and it never asked me to quit while it installed. Does that sound right for this update?
 
Michael Goff said:
Flash had 56 vulnerabilities fixed in 2013. Not 56 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, just 56. That's it. Also, what's wrong with QuickTime? I can tell you one huge problem I've had with it.

It sucks as a video player.

"But it runs everything I need it to".

In theory, it ran the type of file I threw at it. I even went to the page they have to check. It's stuck trying to convert an avi file. QuickTime can supposedly play avi files. MXplayer? It just PLAYS it.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...uthkey=!AOe1SbIgFFYOrIs&v=3&ithint=photo,.png
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I said QuickTime, not QuickTime Player, and your problem might be the player itself. There's a difference. QuickTime Player 7 (Pro) is pretty much better than X in every way other than not having the ability to record your screen. And yes, it can play and convert AVI files just fine. QuickTime is fine.
 
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MahBoi said:
I said QuickTime, not QuickTime Player, and your problem might be the player itself. There's a difference. QuickTime Player 7 (Pro) is pretty much better than X in every way other than not having the ability to record your screen. And yes, it can play and convert AVI files just fine.
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QuickTime Player 7 Pro might play everything, but ... well, I'm not paying for it. Also, the problems are with the Flash Player, so I figured it would be an apples to apples comparison.
 
Maybe one day we won't have to deal with Flash ever again. I'm surprised developers haven't completely moved to HTML5.


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Michael Goff said:
Then what is the motivation for those companies to move? Those who want to play likely have flash.
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So, let me make sure I understand....

ANYthing ANYone says that is slightly negative about or could be construed as "against" Adobe Flash...you are going to jump all over and attack as if we were kicking your daughter?
 
JAT said:
So, let me make sure I understand....

ANYthing ANYone says that is slightly negative about or could be construed as "against" Adobe Flash...you are going to jump all over and attack as if we were kicking your daughter?
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No, any time somebody says something ignorant about how flash needs to die, I am going to point out how wrong they are. Any time they say that there isn't a need for flash, I will point out how they're wrong. If you don't like that, stop posting in a public forum.
 
pubwvj said:
That is a gross exaggeration. Most sites that use Flash also have a non-Flash fall-back which works great. HTML5 works. Flash is about glitz and advertising for the most part. Research† shows that 99.97541% of what I use on the Internet does not require Flash. That remain 0.02459% is almost never necessary.

-Walter

†I counter your exaggeration with ridiculously precise faux statistics. Faked but more accurate than your numbers.
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well i can only base it off my usage and being a kiwi living in eastern Europe flash is my only option for sports streaming of sports back home. everyone has their different uses and you may not use flash at all but i use it alot. Im not saying its the best software but for alot of websites its the only option
 
Good thing nothing important to me requires Flash anymore. I don't need that crap.

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SOLLERBOY said:
I just downloaded the latest version. It was definitely from the official site but I had loads of pages open in safari and it never asked me to quit while it installed. Does that sound right for this update?
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You have to quit Safari then re-open for it to take effect.
 
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pubwvj said:
It would be wiser to uninstall Flash than to upgrade.
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*update

You can't upgrade, Adobe makes sure that the performance of Flash apparently sucks more and more over time.
I remember Youtube running ace on my C2D iMac back in 2006.
Hell, Youtube was the first place I checked HD video out on. It ran smoothly.

My current setup is killing my old iMac and yet, Flash 11 and 12 seem to be some of the biggest offenders of bad streamlining and performance adjustments I have ever seen.

Heck, Flash used to be quite okay when it was owned by Macromedia still.
Adobe however... Oh Adobe...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
Glassed Silver said:
*update

You can't upgrade, Adobe makes sure that the performance of Flash apparently sucks more and more over time.
I remember Youtube running ace on my C2D iMac back in 2006.
Hell, Youtube was the first place I checked HD video out on. It ran smoothly.

My current setup is killing my old iMac and yet, Flash 11 and 12 seem to be some of the biggest offenders of bad streamlining and performance adjustments I have ever seen.

Heck, Flash used to be quite okay when it was owned by Macromedia still.
Adobe however... Oh Adobe...

Glassed Silver:mac
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I don't think it can all be put down to Adobe. YouTube can work perfectly one day, then be horrible the next. Quality really started to go down in the past few years, to be honest. Adobe isn't innocent, but I think Google's screwing it up too.
 
juminoz said:
Maybe one day we won't have to deal with Flash ever again. I'm surprised developers haven't completely moved to HTML5.


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Eh... I'm not going to wait for everyone to jump ship at the same time. Finally just uninstalled it from my iMac....

....and as expected, life goes on as usual. Looks like there's nothing to miss.
 
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