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This coming from a student, right?

Nope. Although I am a student at the moment its simply because I returned to school. I have plenty of professional experience and have been using Photoshop since version 5 and have used every single version since. Photoshop isn't the only Adobe product I use either I use Illustrator and After Effects and occasionally have to use Flash.

Sorry you have such a superiority complex.
 
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People who usually complain about the price aren't professionals. Professionals use their tools, get paid using them, and write them off at the end of the year on their taxes.

You are probably right that most people complaining on this forum are amateurs. As most professional companies would not spend their time on mac-rumors forum.. That said, all four of the retouching companies that I have worked with are working on CS3 or CS4 due to bugs with CS5. The main one is saving files to a server over a LAN connection.
 
I've been using Adobe's software professionally since… oh gosh, Photoshop 3 I think, and possibly Illustrator 5 — even older versions while I was studying. I haven't been excited by upgrades to either of these for a long time.

InDesign, being a somewhat less mature program, has staggered some useful feature releases over the years and kept me forking out money for upgrades until CS4. They're all pretty decent programs, but upgrades are becoming far from essential or exciting IMO.


We're in the same boat. Been working professionally with Adobe software since PS3.

Adobe has been charting a 'bloaty/crufty' path for about a decade, and to date I can still accomplish the majority of my day-to-day design work with Photoshop 5 and Illustrator 8.

That being said - they still make the best design tools in the business and I have yet to run into a colleague who feels as though Adobe software has 'Bad UI.' To the contrary - their UI tends to be top-of-class when it comes to sheer usability.

I don't get excited about these updates - We're still on CS4 at the office and none of us really feel that we're missing out.

It's been good to see InDesign mature into full-featured Quark killer. I'm still looking forward to a day where Flash behaves like an Adobe product and not a massively retrofitted piece of 90s animation software.
 
Oh cool. I thought they were going to make me upgrade in order to use the tablet apps, but apparently not.

Still pretty lame that the come out with a .5 as now the updates to 5.x won't really exist anymore...
 
I've been happy with Photoshop CS5 (I haven't used Illustrator and InDesign past CS3) so far. I look forward to playing with the iPad apps, but I'm not sure if they will provide much use for me. Either way, I'm a fan of development progression. :)
 
the main one is saving files to a server over a LAN connection.
I don't think Adobe's stance on this changed with CS5; it was the same with CS4 and CS3 iirc.

While this should technically work, I can't say I blame Adobe. There's simply too many variables, especially when the files grow in size, to really make saving to networks reliable. If you save often enough you better have one damn fast server connection. It's not hard to take the file you were just working on and save it to a network share.
 
Plus I just paid a decent sum to upgrade to CS5 about 7 months ago, not ready to spend another $550.

Actually many of us don't like Adobe because of their shoddy releases since they bought out Macromedia (although CS5 changed this since it is much better than CS3 or CS4).

Not to mention those of us who actually use Photoshop or other Creative Suite elements as a tool for work don't generally jump on new releases since some programs that intertwine with Adobe's programs (such as Maya or ZBrush) may not have support for the latest version yet. If you depend on software for a living then you'd be foolish to jump on a new release until it has been tested.
 
Same boat. CS5 fixed the stability issues I had with CS3/CS4 so I plan on keeping this around until at least a full 1.0 upgrade sometime next year.

Also, there really hasn't been much in the way of speed/additional tools in photoshop/illustrator/indesign to justify buying every .5 upgrade they release.

We're in the same boat. Been working professionally with Adobe software since PS3.

Adobe has been charting a 'bloaty/crufty' path for about a decade, and to date I can still accomplish the majority of my day-to-day design work with Photoshop 5 and Illustrator 8.

That being said - they still make the best design tools in the business and I have yet to run into a colleague who feels as though Adobe software has 'Bad UI.' To the contrary - their UI tends to be top-of-class when it comes to sheer usability.

I don't get excited about these updates - We're still on CS4 at the office and none of us really feel that we're missing out.

It's been good to see InDesign mature into full-featured Quark killer. I'm still looking forward to a day where Flash behaves like an Adobe product and not a massively retrofitted piece of 90s animation software.
 
I wonder when Adobe is going to wake up to the fact that people aren't going to pay almost $2K for a software package that has competitors offering products almost as good and sometimes better for less than $100. I hope people are waking up to this reality...

Such as? What apps for under $100 do better? And how many graphic design instructors and professionals would be quick to counter your belief?

You don't even provide one example upfront. That's not the ideal way to engender credibility for your claim, and that is what the reality is.
 
Same boat. CS5 fixed the stability issues I had with CS3/CS4 so I plan on keeping this around until at least a full 1.0 upgrade sometime next year.

Also, there really hasn't been much in the way of speed/additional tools in photoshop/illustrator/indesign to justify buying every .5 upgrade they release.

v5.5 has some arguably improvements to Dreamweaver and Flash; incorporating HTML5 -- and export tools so Flash developers can export their goodies to iOS. Both those biggies were enough to get me to splurge.
 
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A truly Mac version? I always felt that the windows versions were the ports. Since they didn't come along until 6 or 7 years after the Mac versions. So if PS is some ancient bloat, then it's probably core Mac code. But I don't think so. Since they claim they had to do a ground up rewrite- I would assume neither are ports anymore.

Their doing native OS X development, and doing improvements to Flash to export Flash code to iOS are going to be tremendous benefits, to say nothing of HTML5... (all of those encouraged me to stay with OS X...)
 
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thermodynamic said:
Same boat. CS5 fixed the stability issues I had with CS3/CS4 so I plan on keeping this around until at least a full 1.0 upgrade sometime next year.

Also, there really hasn't been much in the way of speed/additional tools in photoshop/illustrator/indesign to justify buying every .5 upgrade they release.

v5.5 has some arguably improvements to Dreamweaver and Flash; incorporating HTML5 -- and export tools so Flash developers can export their goodies to iOS. Both those biggies were enough to get me to splurge.

I can understand that, I just haven't been involved with any app development or back end programming so I will look forward to those next year. ;)
 
Where the heck are the apps??? Seems kind of odd that they aren't in the app store yet
 
Not a huge update that I am excited about, for Photoshop users no new features to make people want to upgrade. I am excited to see the iPad apps though, hopefully those will be live soon
 
v5.5 has some arguably improvements to Dreamweaver and Flash; incorporating HTML5 -- and export tools so Flash developers can export their goodies to iOS. Both those biggies were enough to get me to splurge.

Sorry but how can you "incorporate" HTML5 (or 4 or whatever) in a software? Just curious... ;)

They most likely mean snippets of code and auto-complete of new HTML tag that will (probably) be incorporated in the new HTML standard...
 
Sorry but how can you "incorporate" HTML5 (or 4 or whatever) in a software? Just curious... ;)

They most likely mean snippets of code and auto-complete of new HTML tag that will (probably) be incorporated in the new HTML standard...

Thanks for the correction. :)
 
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