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i am part of a beta team for a lightroom sync app called PhotoSmith. have a look!
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Reading through this thread, I was wondering how many people defending the iPad are actually aware of its inherent shortcomings for professional users , and have actually used programs like Photoshop .
The iPad was never meant to be used by professionals, it is not compatible with pro apps and devices on a basic level, like colour spaces, connectivity, file import/export, tethering, to name a few .
As it's been pointed out before, finger gestures are a crutch, not an enhancement, just like they were since the introduction of trackpads .
SJ called the iPad a post-PC computer - nothing could be further from the truth.
It might help to develop better input devices in the future, but right now Apple doesn't seem to be part of it, aiming their products at a retro oriented crowd which is merely asking for simplification, instead of progress.
The iPad was never meant to be used by professionals, it is not compatible with pro apps and devices on a basic level, like colour spaces, connectivity, file import/export, tethering, to name a few .
As it's been pointed out before, finger gestures are a crutch, not an enhancement, just like they were since the introduction of trackpads .
SJ called the iPad a post-PC computer - nothing could be further from the truth.
It might help to develop better input devices in the future, but right now Apple doesn't seem to be part of it, aiming their products at a retro oriented crowd which is merely asking for simplification, instead of progress.
i was thinking about apple and them doing an ipad version of aperture. so this is welcomed news!
i buy the fact that professional photographers who do sports, news, fashion photography have limited use for the ipad for anything beyond photo previews. as a comic book artist who has been playing with the ipad for a while now i do use it a lot for sketches. it's not quite there as a "do final inkings and color but it is very useful.
if it goes to doubled screen resolution, which all the rumors says it will, that would be huge help.
if it would use pressure sensitivity another big jump. i saw that a small company has developed a way to do this on a current ipad so it only works with a stylus and not skin. apple, with all it's cash on hand, should buy this company and put this in it's next iOS.
more storage and an sd card slot! jump to 128gb onboard and a card slot.
a better onboard camera. not for pros, but for artist who see something or someone they want to use in a drawing van get a good quick shot of it.
i do believe the "pros" are missing the point here though. photoshop can be very useful to a lot of people right now. band flyers, lost and found, invitations, other things like that. you don't always have access or want to carry the 15 pound camera bag, the 5 pound laptop and the wacom tablet.
i see the ipad as an ideas device. it's super convenient to carry, has a camera so you can take preview photos, like the space where an event will take place, you can write professionally on it, final draft is on the way!! you can sketch, do storyboards, send and receive emails, play games.
bottom line, for everything it does there is another device or group of devices that will always do it better. but there is no one device that does everything it does. and it does a lot of things pretty darn good!!
if it goes to doubled screen resolution, which all the rumors says it will, that would be huge help.
if it would use pressure sensitivity another big jump. i saw that a small company has developed a way to do this on a current ipad so it only works with a stylus and not skin. apple, with all it's cash on hand, should buy this company and put this in it's next iOS.
more storage and an sd card slot! jump to 128gb onboard and a card slot.
a better onboard camera. not for pros, but for artist who see something or someone they want to use in a drawing van get a good quick shot of it.
i do believe the "pros" are missing the point here though. photoshop can be very useful to a lot of people right now. band flyers, lost and found, invitations, other things like that. you don't always have access or want to carry the 15 pound camera bag, the 5 pound laptop and the wacom tablet.
i see the ipad as an ideas device. it's super convenient to carry, has a camera so you can take preview photos, like the space where an event will take place, you can write professionally on it, final draft is on the way!! you can sketch, do storyboards, send and receive emails, play games.
bottom line, for everything it does there is another device or group of devices that will always do it better. but there is no one device that does everything it does. and it does a lot of things pretty darn good!!
^This. Well stated.
I live in Lightroom and Photoshop. (I literally earn my living with them).
We don't care about how useful the iPad is to "other" people. Good for them. The iPad is a consumer device designed for the general consuming public and always will be. It will never replace the tools "imaging specialists" need.
The argument seems to be that I need to adopt the iPad and adapt to its shortcomings for my field while waiting for current technology to be included in subsequent versions. And as a pro, if I don't then I'll be left in the dust.
LOL!
The problem is a lot of people want the iPad to be more than it is. I fully understand it's one of those devices that leaves you begging for more but at the end of the day it's just a tablet with all the inherent shortcomings associated with it's weak features and intended market.
It's really that simple.
Then these people aren't pros. This is what we do. I would sooner shed some weight elsewhere than use a silly-assed iPad instead a laptop with 1 TB of disk storage, SD slot, the CPU to handle multiple loads in PhotoShop, burn the occasional proofs to DVD for a client, etc... And not to mention, the ability to tether with my cameras to the laptop should I need to.
Almost word-for-word, the exact same argument that was made by Luddites against these fancy, new-fangled mouse and GUI-based computers back in the mid-80s.
I don't think that barmann was making a case against a new technology that didn't fit the old ways like when mice were first introduced. His point was that as much as iPad fanboys want it to be the coolist thing ever that will replace all those old-fashioned computers there are differences in machines between consumer ones and those used by professionals.
It's not expected that consumers are going to know the short comings of their iPads any more than they know the shortcomings of their flat screen TVs. Even the new MBPs have professional use issue because of their displays. The MBPs are of limited pro use as long as one knows their limitations where as the iPad is of almost no pro use other than "look at this".
One really funny thing is all devices now that can make an iPad seem like a laptop! Boxes that keyboards fit into and cases that stand up are laughable because as nice as an iPad is it really sucks as a computer compared to the cheapest Air or MBP.
Sounded like it to me. May not have been the gist, but unwittingly, he was making that argument.
This is the exact argument made against the mouse and GUI. Exact. Mouse and GUI-based machines were scoffed at by geeks back in the 80s as "toys." That's the same rhetoric I'm hearing now about the iPad and touch-based devices. "It won't do for real work done by professionals." "It's fun but I can't get things done on it." That may be true for some lines of work at this stage, but it's going to change fast so declaring it useless or a plaything at this stage is shortsighted.
And BTW, nobody is saying the iPad will replace computers. Just like the mouse and GUI, this approach is going to continue evolving until ways are found for it to enhance computers and become an essential part of it. But it's insane for people to write off touch-based tablets as fanboy cheerleading
I don't make a living with Photoshop, but it is a pretty serious side activity of mine, and as I said before, for what it is, Photogene is perfectly adequate for the general iPad user.
Unless they can add color profiles, different colorspaces other than RGB (LAB, CMYK, et al.), Photoshop for professional use will never get off the ground on a device like this.
Not to say you should be able to do a complete workflow from import to print on a tablet device, which, at least for now, seems completely unrealistic -- but I would think pros need to be able to import, see colors in a reasonable approximation for proofing or showing to clients, and maybe make spot edits based on client feedback.
I honestly wasn't too thrilled with Photoshop Express, which is why when I saw Photogene, I was immediately impressed with is features.
Unless they can add color profiles, different colorspaces other than RGB (LAB, CMYK, et al.), Photoshop for professional use will never get off the ground on a device like this.
Not to say you should be able to do a complete workflow from import to print on a tablet device, which, at least for now, seems completely unrealistic -- but I would think pros need to be able to import, see colors in a reasonable approximation for proofing or showing to clients, and maybe make spot edits based on client feedback.
I honestly wasn't too thrilled with Photoshop Express, which is why when I saw Photogene, I was immediately impressed with is features.
