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Adobe To Drop PowerPC Support For After Effects CS4

Can anyone say 'AVCHD+Premiere'

Oh that's right, the single most popular consumer and prosumer HD video format isn't supported by Adobe.

YAY!
 
donga said:
has it really been three years since the last ppc?
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The quad G5 was released in October 2005 and sold until the introduction of the Mac Pro in August 2006, so it has only been two years.

As I recall, when Snow Leopard was first rumored to be Intel-only, many people were saying "but application developers will still be making releases for both architectures." Yeah right.
 
About time! 3-4 years of transition time is PLENTY! It's such a waste of resources trying to support both platforms that take advantage of CPU specific optimizations. This way, they can actually focus on making subsequent creative suite versions BETTER than their predecessors, contrary to the past couple of years...
 
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No, my power macintosh G5!!
 
I'm sure new, more power-hungry features in apps like After Effects can't run nearly as well on a PPC as they can on Intel, this is one scenario where dropping PPC makes sense since it won't be able to really use the new stuff even if it was engineered correctly for that platform.
 
winterspan said:
About time! 3-4 years of transition time is PLENTY! It's such a waste of resources trying to support both platforms that take advantage of CPU specific optimizations. This way, they can actually focus on making subsequent creative suite versions BETTER than their predecessors, contrary to the past couple of years...
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It's also a good way to say indirectly: If you're too cheap to upgrade your hardware, you don't need the better software.
 
If they didn't eventually drop it in favor of new hardware, they'd be Microsoft.

Not that OS9 was bad at all (I used 7-9 exclusively without Windows for a long time), but OSX was a huge leap forward. Massive change can only happen when sacrifices are made.
 
My 12" Powerbook G4 was made in March 2006, I don't know what that means except that I have applecare on it for one more year. Bought it in August 06.
 
I don't have a problem with it as long as
they will be able to deliver more features in CS4
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is real, and not the pseudo "more features" that Microsoft promises every time they drop a product.

Outlook, Outlook Express, Virtual PC, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player... I don't miss a single one of them (IE is my nemesis), but they were all dropped with the promise that Microsoft was consolidating and focussing more on improving and enhancing their core products. So far, we've gotten, what, the "My Day" widget in Office 2008? Oh, and a new (but still highly buggy) version of Remote Desktop Connection. And, but, VBA got dropped (never use it myself, but). Yippee. We're raking in the value here. I realize that the migration of Office to Cocoa was non-trivial, but really, in that time they've decimated their Mac product line and replaced it with empty space.

If Adobe follows Microsoft's lead with this, and gives us pharq-all in return, that's when I get annoyed and wonder about the gall of these companies.
 
opeter said:
Yes. The last (and fastest) PowerMac G5 Quad was released in 2005:

http://everymac.com/systems/by_year/macs-released-in-2005.html
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According to MacTracker (Download url from CNET's Download.com:http://www.download.com/Mactracker/3000-2274_4-10059529.html) the last PowerPC Mac released was:

Name: PowerMac G5 (Late 2005)
Introduction Month: October 2005
Discontinuation Month: August 2006
Machine ID Code:powermac11,2
Processor Speed: 2.0, 2.3, 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 Dual Core Processor
Number of Processor(s): 1 (Dual Core), 2 (2 X Dual Core)
Maximum RAM: 16 GB ( PC2 - 4300 DDR2 ECC/NECC SDRAM [matching pairs] )

Note: ECC: Error Correcting Code; NECC: Non Error Correcting Code
SDRAM: synchronous dynamic random access memory
 
twoodcc said:
this really makes sense to me
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how about just fixing the current probs with openGL, freezing and of course the 2GB RAM limit :p CS3 for both PS and AE has been the buggiest of versions ever for me :( Ive been using since Cosa on AE and PS2 :p
currently running on Leopard and latest MacIntel MPs.
 
tbohlsennswssrg said:
According to MacTracker (Download url from CNET's Download.com:http://www.download.com/Mactracker/3000-2274_4-10059529.html) the last PowerPC Mac released was:

Name: PowerMac G5 (Late 2005)
Introduction Month: October 2005
Discontinuation Month: August 2006
Machine ID Code:powermac11,2
Processor Speed: 2.0, 2.3, 2.5 Ghz PowerPC G5 Dual Core Processor
Number of Processor(s): 1 (Dual Core), 2 (2 X Dual Core)
Maximum RAM: 16 GB ( PC2 - 4300 DDR2 ECC/NECC SDRAM [matching pairs] )

Note: ECC: Error Correcting Code; NECC: Non Error Correcting Code
SDRAM: synchronous dynamic random access memory
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This would be me..... I HAD to buy my PMG5 in January of 2006 and could not wait until August, let alone Adobe to release the native CS3 many months later.

As long as PS, AI and Flash are PPC supported I'm ok until I can upgrade the PMG5 to a Mac Pro by the end of 2009.
 
PowerMac G5 may have been 'discontinued' in August 2006, but it was sold for months afterward by Apple (usually at the retail stores) to professional users who needed to run apps that had no Intel version. So, I'm sure there are Quad G5s out there that are only about 1.5 years old today.
 
alphaod said:
It's also a good way to say indirectly: If you're too cheap to upgrade your hardware, you don't need the better software.
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Newer hardware and newer software do not go hand in hand. You can bet there are plenty of people that are happily using PPC hardware who don't require the performance boost of the latest hardware. On the other hand they may see a need for newer features of software. When that need requires the newer hardware, that is when they will be required to upgrade or find an alternative, or be left behind.
 
As stated above I am sure there are tons of PPC users who are very happy with what they have and really have no need to rush out and buy new hardware.

Its only the extreme lunatic fringe that rushes out to buy the very latest thing just so they can be the first kid on the block with the new toy. How much processing speed do you really need to check email and surf the web :) part of my collection is an Apple Cube 450Mhz model which still checks email and surfs just fine :) I think this site is more about bragging rights then any thing else.
 
You know, I was one of the unfortunate pr buyers who NEEDED a new machine and couldn't wait for the Mac Pro. I bought a G5 Quad when it came out and I have to say it can keep up with just about anything that I need professionally.

I'm very disappointed about the rumors of major software companies dropping support for PPC. (Oh yeah, and Apple, if you're listening, if you don't include support for PPC in Snow Leopard I'm going to be very pissed!:mad: Especially after how much this machine cost me to begin with).

Ok, end of rant, go about your business.:eek:
 
If they have support for Core Solo systems and old Core Duo systems but not Dual and Quad G5's then I think thats BS. There are some pretty hefty G5 Macs out there that should not be forgotten so soon.
 
Hrududu said:
If they have support for Core Solo systems and old Core Duo systems but not Dual and Quad G5's then I think thats BS. There are some pretty hefty G5 Macs out there that should not be forgotten so soon.
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Exactly! Even though the G5's are pushing 4 years old, they are still perfectly capable. I just don't understand why people are so eager to leave PPC behind, and IMO leaving the PPC alliance will come back and bight Apple in the ass one day.

Don
 
People seem to be under the impression ( at least, their doom-mongering posts ) infer that perhaps all the software they currently use quite happily on their PPC machines will suddenly implode and cease working, simply because new software isn't being written with their machine in mind.

Seriously - you will be able to do everything you can do now - nothing will change. Just other companies are moving on, and rightly so.

Did anyone buy a PPC Mac thinking "I can't wait till CS4 - it'll be fantastic" ?

Doug
 
I don't use After Effects so the point of dropping PowerPC support is moot as far as I'm concerned. What is disturbing is the increasing drop of PowerPC support in general from Apple and other developers besides Adobe. Sure time moves on and the drop in support is expected. I also believe overall we are better off with intel. My gripe is that in pure performance terms Power PC was and still is superior in performance and it really is a shame that PowerPC users with more than adequate machines are being excluded.

I own a Power Mac G5 Quad 2.5Ghz G5 8GB Ram with a Flashed Nvidia 7800GTX 512MB video card.

I also own a Brand new 2.5Ghz MBP and an imac 2.4Ghz both almost top end intel offerings from Apple and both machines come nowhere near the Performance of my trusty G5. Sure the newest Mac Pros outperform my G5 but then again my nearly 3 year old G5 still runs non Universal Binary Apps faster than the newest Mac Pros. Faced with that reality I see no need to upgrade my old G5 as it still is the fastest machine I own but I also don't intend to buy a new Mac Pro anytime soon either. With that in mind it really is a shame that I won't be able to use software that would perform better on the best machine I own which is the G5.
 
djellison said:
You will still be able to use all the software you use now.

Where's the problem?
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The problem is that the newest software will not be available for machines that are still capable of running them (from a spec standpoint).

The fact that the G5 Quad won't be able to run this software after being out of production for just over 2.5 years seems ridiculous to me. Especially considering it was mostly PRO users who bought these machines for programs just like this (and not only the current versions when they bought them but subsequent versions). I know this isn't the case for most, but when I buy a pro machine I expect it to last upwards of 4-5 years with upgrades to things like RAM and video cards along the way. It would be nice if companies weren't so willing to ditch their PPC users so fast.
 
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