Adobe to End New Installs of Flash on Android as of August 15

[revelated]

Anyone else find it bizarre that the (ostensibly) free and open crowd advocate Flash which offers DRM while the proprietary "walled garden" types want HTML5 which doesn't? Welcome to Bizarro World.

"walled garden" wants to be rid of Flash only because they see an alternative that will actually work on their device. I submit the iPhone as crippled without HTML5. So they'll say anything to justify it.

On the flip side, Windows tablets can play Flash, HTML5, and whatever else you want to come up with. Same with Android tablets. But the thing is, people know that the content slant is currently like 90/10 in favor of Flash content that is extremely unlikely to be converted in the near term.

So I have a choice: Do I walk towards the Promised Land, or dive off the cliff in hopes I hit something?

 

[wikus]

Does this mean we no longer have to hear: "No flash? Yeah, that's a deal-breaker right there." from the anti-iOS folks?

Oh well, at least they'll still have: "No removable battery? Yeah, that's a deal-breaker right there."

LOL, wrong.

Tech savvy consumers arent buying android phones solely because of flash or removable batteries, although both are beneficial aspects which only Apple users would negate. The reason why people are going Android is because theyre not locked into a closed system like iTunes and iOS that doesnt allow any customization. You really have to be anti-choice to slam Android. Good on you for that.

Wake me up when iPhone lets me throw in a ROM of my choice. Until then, you can continue making lame attempts at mockery of Android users.

 

[HarryKeogh]

LOL, wrong.

Tech savvy consumers arent buying android phones solely because of flash or removable batteries, although both are beneficial aspects which only Apple users would negate. The reason why people are going Android is because theyre not locked into a closed system like iTunes and iOS that doesnt allow any customization. You really have to be anti-choice to slam Android. Good on you for that.

Wake me up when iPhone lets me throw in a ROM of my choice. Until then, you can continue making lame attempts at mockery of Android users.

The vast majority of consumers are not tech savvy unless you count being able to set the DVR to record the entire season of Keeping Up With the Kardashians "tech savvy" and even then they still record all the repeats.

I think people buy Android phones because they're nice phones, big screens, good features. Very few people are installing a custom ROM. They wouldn't even know what that means.

As for saying my attempt at mockery was lame...how dare you! Each thumbs up my comment received is proof that my post's humor was at the same level as a Carlin or Pryor in their prime.

 

[Hyper-X]

Flash was something great back many years ago however it is time that we look forward to capitalizing on more modern technologies which offer the user a more rich and secure experience.

Hope Adobe looks to providing HTML5 tools and content as they did when they shocked the world with the intro of Flash.

 

[inkswamp]

On the flip side, Windows tablets can play Flash, HTML5, and whatever else you want to come up with. Same with Android tablets. But the thing is, people know that the content slant is currently like 90/10 in favor of Flash content that is extremely unlikely to be converted in the near term.

I'll be honest with you. Most of your post doesn't make any sense to me. However, I'd like to know where you get the idea that "the content slant is currently like 9010 in favor of Flash." Do you have an actual source to back up the claim that 90% of content on the Web requires Flash? That sound ridiculously unlikely to me.

I have several iOS devices and I don't recall the last site that didn't accommodate me with an HTML5 option. Flash is not quite as essential and you think it is. If you're viewing the Web with Flash-enabled devices, you wouldn't be aware of that. I can't think of any sites I routinely visit on my iPad or iPhone that don't make their content available through non-Flash alternatives at this point.

 

[revelated]

I'll be honest with you. Most of your post doesn't make any sense to me. However, I'd like to know where you get the idea that "the content slant is currently like 9010 in favor of Flash." Do you have an actual source to back up the claim that 90% of content on the Web requires Flash? That sound ridiculously unlikely to me.

I have several iOS devices and I don't recall the last site that didn't accommodate me with an HTML5 option. Flash is not quite as essential and you think it is. If you're viewing the Web with Flash-enabled devices, you wouldn't be aware of that. I can't think of any sites I routinely visit on my iPad or iPhone that don't make their content available through non-Flash alternatives at this point.

Your confusion is because your quote was inaccurate.

I didn't say the slant was in favor of Flash. The COMPLETE quote is that the slant is currently like 90/10 in favor of Flash content that is extremely unlikely to be converted in the near term.

In other words I'm not talking about new content. I'm talking about content that already exists in Flash where the content provider has spent literally years populating their media section; they're not quickly going to spend thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars converting all of that content in the near future.

You're also working under a flawed assumption that I'm only referring to movies. There are TONS of Flash games that simply won't be converted that house millions of gamers. There are game wrappers where the underlying code is Flash; those won't be converted either. HTML5 cannot do the interactive components necessary for some of the most advanced games out there. We're not talking some simple click-and-drag of bubbles in a fish tank here. You're not going to power Godfather: Five Families in HTML5.

 

[inkswamp]

The COMPLETE quote is that the slant is currently like 90/10 in favor of Flash content that is extremely unlikely to be converted in the near term.

You just spent several paragraphs responding but failed to address my main question: where did you get this 90/10 number from? Are you guessing or do you have an actual source for this? I think you're grossly over-exaggerating Flash's importance and was wondering where you're getting this 90/10 thing. It seems fictitious.

 

[moldy912]

If I am to assume you have a reasonably powerful modern Mac computer.
Why do you think Flash runs as smooth as silk with very little CPU loading on my PC I put together myself and terribly on your Mac machine?

As I said in a previous post, a 1080p YouTube video running at full screen 1920x1080 is using between 1% and 2% of my CPU.

Would you consider that bad? I don't think you would do.

If you like, I'm happy to run a .swf vector Flash animation full screen, full res 1920x1080 later tonight and report back the CPU loading for this type of file also.

I am not talking numbers here. This is my subjective opinion that it runs poorly on my computer. It freezes and skips a lot, and it's not fun to watch videos hardly. This was a lot worse a while back before Flash 11 I think.