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Adobe to Stop Distributing and Updating Flash in 2020
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People hating on Flash are not aware of what's behind Flash to begin with. Flash got bought by Adobe and like anything that Adobe touches it begins to stink cause they never addressed the core issues with Flash Player not Flash itself.
First of all HTML5 didn't win over Flash yet, not by a long shot. AcitonScript 3.0 kills JavaScript in pretty much anything. Some stuff you were able to do in AS3 with an ease require a lot of workarounds in JacaScript. Vecotr graphics manipulation is still years ahead of HTML5 abilities. 3D content inside Flash can't be touched by WebGL and will not get to that point within 5 years at least.
And Steve didn't call to kill the Flash because it was proprietary or performance issues (on Apple devices only, much like how Safari kills your CPU when it comes to complex HTML5 content today). He called for it because it was a competition to his content in the app store. He didn't want Flash content out there in the wild, he wanted Flash content inside his App Store and that's what happened exactly. Most of your favorite iOS games are made in Flash and then compiled to be published in App Store.
Similar battle going on now is CUDA vs OpenCL, it's another jab at proprietary technology by Apple. They don't want NVidia dictating how they gonna use the GPU so they joined in OpenCL camp which then has transitioned into Apple proprietary Metal GPU technology. It is exactly like HTML5 vs Flash. CUDA is a lot more stable environment, it takes less troubleshooting, takes less code to unleash the potential while OpenCL is as convoluted as it could be, it works but just not as efficient as CUDA and it still can't deliver some features CUDA can. It's a carbon copy of a internet battle of ten years ago except NVidia is not neglecting their child like Adobe did and they still prevail.
Never trust an Apple employee talking to you about their fight for open standards. If they do just mentioned them Lighting connector and when do they think to transition to open standard.
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Only Flash player is being killed, not Flash itself. Flash still lives it just exports itself in other formats such as HTML5, apk, ipa and so on
First of all HTML5 didn't win over Flash yet, not by a long shot. AcitonScript 3.0 kills JavaScript in pretty much anything. Some stuff you were able to do in AS3 with an ease require a lot of workarounds in JacaScript. Vecotr graphics manipulation is still years ahead of HTML5 abilities. 3D content inside Flash can't be touched by WebGL and will not get to that point within 5 years at least.
And Steve didn't call to kill the Flash because it was proprietary or performance issues (on Apple devices only, much like how Safari kills your CPU when it comes to complex HTML5 content today). He called for it because it was a competition to his content in the app store. He didn't want Flash content out there in the wild, he wanted Flash content inside his App Store and that's what happened exactly. Most of your favorite iOS games are made in Flash and then compiled to be published in App Store.
Similar battle going on now is CUDA vs OpenCL, it's another jab at proprietary technology by Apple. They don't want NVidia dictating how they gonna use the GPU so they joined in OpenCL camp which then has transitioned into Apple proprietary Metal GPU technology. It is exactly like HTML5 vs Flash. CUDA is a lot more stable environment, it takes less troubleshooting, takes less code to unleash the potential while OpenCL is as convoluted as it could be, it works but just not as efficient as CUDA and it still can't deliver some features CUDA can. It's a carbon copy of a internet battle of ten years ago except NVidia is not neglecting their child like Adobe did and they still prevail.
Never trust an Apple employee talking to you about their fight for open standards. If they do just mentioned them Lighting connector and when do they think to transition to open standard.
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Only Flash player is being killed, not Flash itself. Flash still lives it just exports itself in other formats such as HTML5, apk, ipa and so on
Isn't that an irrelevant distinction? I think it is pretty obvious that people are worried about the Player on their machines and could care less about the specific tools a developer used; so long as the end result is a proper runtime or standards compliant web site.
We need an Academy Awards style cermony honoring the best of Flash from the early 2000s. I'd personally like to nominate the Numa Numa Dance.
Sorry to SNIP, but you're right.
However, Flash PLAYER has always sucked on the macOS. So I won't be sad to see it gone.
What are you basing this on? Adobe themselves say they are killing flash:
In other words, stopping distribution of Flash Player in 2020 will mark the first milestone in Adobe's effort to end-of-life Flash. Once that is done, the rest can be killed with ease.
This really is good news for users of modern releases of macOS. I removed Flash when the BBC switched to HTML5 on the BBC iPlayer. Safari 10 and Safari 11 both support HTML5 well and thus far I have encountered no problems without Flash including on sites such as CNN which were Flash content heavy.
There is an issue however. Older OS X releases such as Snow Leopard HTML5 is not supported and to view most streaming content Flash is essential. Although Firefox 45 ESR currently does support HTML5 in time the browser will become increasingly outdated as Mozilla is releasing no further updates to Firefox 45 ESR and later Firefox ESR releases are incompatible with the likes of Snow Leopard.
A considerable number of Mac users are still on Snow Leopard and the curtains are being further drawn on this classic release of the platform.
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https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
http://lightspark.github.io
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There is an issue however. Older OS X releases such as Snow Leopard HTML5 is not supported and to view most streaming content Flash is essential. Although Firefox 45 ESR currently does support HTML5 in time the browser will become increasingly outdated as Mozilla is releasing no further updates to Firefox 45 ESR and later Firefox ESR releases are incompatible with the likes of Snow Leopard.
A considerable number of Mac users are still on Snow Leopard and the curtains are being further drawn on this classic release of the platform.
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For Linux there is open source alternatives such as Gnash and Lightspark but have never cut the mustard. I experimented with Gnash back in 2008 with Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron and compatibility with sites with Flash content was at the best patchy. Richard Stallman paints the glorious picture of open source but with some of the projects such as Gnash and Lightspark fail to deliver.
https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
http://lightspark.github.io
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And those that continue to work with older releases such as Snow Leopard will become increasingly vulnerable. The most up to date browser that supports HTML5 compatible with Snow Leopard is Firefox 45 ESR.You aren't thinking about Windows XP are you
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Funny how we can remember it so differently.
I dont remember to have a buggy and useless version of flash on my android years ago... but i do remember scratching my head when using ipad and finding myself turning always back to my laptop while my ioad was on the table... nowadays im using the worst of all, "flash-supporting" browser, on my iphone/ipad and it never ever can become any worse than that...
While people saying "hey the guy was right, flash died!" they do not realize what the internet content would have been without flash and able to run things even locally.
Apples only interest was getting developers to develope native apple-controlled apps to fill appstore and not allowing multiplatform developing distributed on websites leaving apple without earning..
No, you’re seeing it with rose tinted glasses...
It was so bad that Adobe canceled it in 2011.
If I recall correctly didn't they also hot-code the cell & wifi signal to always show 5 bars and full wifi?
I had Macromedia Flash program way back in the day, I would download .FLA files from the classic FlashKit .com, learn how stuff worked. A LOT of websites I did 15-20 years ago had it (sorry people who hated it LOL - I kind of grew tired of it as my computer became older and slower).
But after iPhone came out in '07...seeing MANY using the phone, w/ Apple having no intention of using it I removed all .swf files from the sites I created.
I rarely do web design anymore, used to love it..but that love - enjoyment died years ago.
But after iPhone came out in '07...seeing MANY using the phone, w/ Apple having no intention of using it I removed all .swf files from the sites I created.
I rarely do web design anymore, used to love it..but that love - enjoyment died years ago.
