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How old is the intel chip that was used for comparison? Maybe a recent chip would not look so bad performance wise.

A recent AMD chip wouldn't look so bad. Intel chips from today are not all that different from their 2018 counterparts in the machines that these M1's replaced. For instance if we compare the 2018 Mac mini with it's desktop Core i7 to the M1 Mac mini in Capture One: The M1 isn't just 50% or so faster at every task, their is perceivably less latency between mouse click and action on screen when performing tasks like painting in a mask. The same is observed in Photoshop.
 
How old is the intel chip that was used for comparison? Maybe a recent chip would not look so bad performance wise.
and a faster intel chip might look better too. You are missing the point a bit. Lets all just agree that Intel has started making chips again after being pummeled by AMD. But for a first generation Apple Silicon SOC to even be in this category using just 4 high performance cores (I have no idea how to equate a 4/4 SOC to Intel which makes 4, 6, and 8 high performance cores) is outstanding.
 
I don't see Lightroom Classic available for download yet.. not even beta.

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Looking forward to Lightroom Classic 10.3 running natively under M1. I've been waiting for that since December. Also looking forward to the new Super Resolution feature in LR. Hopefully 10.3 will get rolled out in the next day or two.
 
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Seriously? You think that is equivalent? You even stated Rosetta. so a low power M1 processor beats a full on desktop CPU while running an emulator, and you are not impressed? the article specifically said that "NATIVE", which are faster than emulated, BTW is 80% faster. so there you go
I don't think it is equivalent. That is why I said Rosetta. (I lived through the PowerPC transition)

But when I went to the underlined link about 80% I found this paragraph in the document:

"Just seven months after the introduction of the first generation Apple Silicon Macs, all key Creative Cloud apps are now available in ‘univer-sal binary’ versions, meaning that the same program can run on both Intel and Apple Silicon platforms."​
And the document was not as front and center about native apps or beta that what the press release was.

I'm not saying M1 won't be faster natively. It will be (other wise what's the point).

But if I want to try buy an M1 now for use in production (and assume an 80% speed bump) I need to be sure of Adobe's quick roll out of native apps. Premiere is supposed to be done by the end of the month, but After Effects?
 
They will come back... eventually... in a couple of years. A bit like AMD did 3-4 years ago, because let's admit it, AMD was in bad posture in the beginning of 2010s.

Meanwhile we'll be able to enjoy Apple Silicon for years to come :)

Yep, it really comes down to management and starts from the top. Lisa Su brought AMD around. Intel has all the engineering talent they need. Pat Gelsinger hit the ground running and appears to be on track to right the helm. But it'll take years to catch back up with TSMC and Samsung. Hence why they'll be using TSMC for part of their chip production.

Not sure why anyone would see more competition in chip foundries as bad. If the current shortage has taught us anything. We need more foundries, more competing fabs and in more countries.

If Intel can catch up or pass TSMC. It won't matter to Apple. As Intel is also going into the custom fab business. Apple is a chip designer not a fab. They'll use whoever has the best process and can meet their production demand. Be it Intel, TSMC, Samsung or someone else.
 
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There is no reason these apps can't be running just the same on M1 iPads –other than Apple's arbitrary reasons to drive a wedge between the two platforms.

As a Lightroom user since the beginning, I can't imagine running LR Classic on my iPad. For a variety of reasons.

Sure, it'll likely be possible. Just not efficient or enjoyable.
 
My guess for the next round will be up to 32 CPU cores (4 low power 28 high, and higher clocked). 32GPU cores, 128GB ram (up to), and double the thunderbolt/USB controllers/ports.
That's one massive piece of silicon, especially if you're going to cram 128GB of DRAM in the package too.
 
There is no reason these apps can't be running just the same on M1 iPads –other than Apple's arbitrary reasons to drive a wedge between the two platforms.

The bulk of the work is not making it run on M1/ARM, its building a UI/UX that isn't garbage and also working within iPadOS limitations(like 5GB RAM per app). I could compile any of my Mac applications to a iPad today, but that isn't going to be a good experience and a few things will just not work because they where written to expect macOS and macOS libraries.
 
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I installed Lightroom Classic yesterday and was informed by the installer that it will use Intel and Rosetta 2. I don't see any updates right now. How to get the M1 version?
 
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I installed Lightroom Classic yesterday and was informed by the installer that it will use Intel and Rosetta 2. I don't see any updates right now. How to get the M1 version?

It'll will show up in the CC manager as ready for download. I'm guessing the rollout is being staged and will show up in the next day or so.
 
Seems everyone has been working months to their M1 updates out this week in preparation for new MBPs, which as we all know didn't come. Seems like a surprise to everyone. Since not announced now, would seem almost certain they will now wait until Monterrey is released and ship all new MBPs with that. So the wait continues. Even if wasn't ready to ship wish they had just announce it so we could salivate and plan accordingly in the meantime, but that of course isn't usually apple's style.
I'd guess large software companies get the inside scoop on when new M1 (or m1x or M2) models will be released. Lots of folks are buying M1 minis and new iMacs and running Adobe. Good to see updates.
 
The bulk of the work is not making it run on M1/ARM, its building a UI/UX that isn't garbage and also working within iPadOS limitations(like 5GB RAM per app). I could compile any of my Mac applications to a iPad today, but that isn't going to be a good experience and a few things will just not work because they where written to expect macOS and macOS libraries.

Exactly. Another limitation is having ready access to a user's library of RAW images (100K-200K images for me) and subsequent edits. And being able to easily back that library up. Piece of cake on my Mac; not so on an iPad.

Also...As nice as the iPad Pro 12.9" screen is, it would be just too small for me editing images. That would become frustrating very quickly.
 
It'll will show up in the CC manager as ready for download. I'm guessing the rollout is being staged and will show up in the next day or so.

I don't know. I don't even see it mentioned in the press release.
 
My testing of an After Effects (running through Rosetta of course) render on an M1 mini compared to iMac Retina 5k 27-inch Late 2015 does not show 80% improvement. More like 2%.

Admittedly I'm not a professional tester, but it was a real world test - no plugins.
They never said non-naive apps are 80% faster. They said that the ones that they have been migrated are 80% faster.

"Benchmarks covered seven essential Creative Cloud applications: Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, XD, Premiere Pro, Lightroom and Lightroom Classic."
 
How old is the intel chip that was used for comparison? Maybe a recent chip would not look so bad performance wise.
I'd guess 10th Gen as its the most recent MBP i5

You can read the report by clicking the link in the OP

Apple M1:
13 inch M1 MacBook Pro
16GB RAM, 2TB of SSD

Intel:
13 inch Intel Core i5 MacBook Pro
16GB RAM, 2TB of SSD

Both systems were connected to an
Apple Pro Display XDR for benchmarks
(See last page for complete Methodology.)
 
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My bad, I see all the updates. Had to manually check for updates.

I'm actually surprised Lightroom Classic was updated for the M1. I was half expecting to Adobe to EOL classic.
Classic allows offsite storage. That alone is a reason to keep using it. A lot of people have home storage and do not need/want to put all their photos at the mercy of Adobe. My negative scans are 100-300MB per photo, imagine adding those to cloud... and not to mention the extra functionality in Classic not available in CC.
 
When will they even start assembling a beta for After Effects?
Please Adobe...it's not like I don't pay for it.
With the outrageous fee I'd expect a bigger effort in developing M1 native apps.
 
I hope this fixes LRC's horrible memory usage on the M1. My 16gb M1 MBA/Mac Mini both have LRC using over 14+gb with 8+gb swap files while using much less memory on my previous 16gb intel machines...
 
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