I just went to Amazon to show Mrs. Diver some of the reviews. It says they are temporarily out of stock. That really screws up the impulse buy.
I just went to Amazon to show Mrs. Diver some of the reviews. It says they are temporarily out of stock. That really screws up the impulse buy.
One of my favorite reviews on Amazon is the 3 wolf, one moon T-shirt. The beauty of it all is that it is much more affordable than the Bigma rocket launcher.I just went to Amazon to show Mrs. Diver some of the reviews. It says they are temporarily out of stock. That really screws up the impulse buy.
One of my favorite reviews on Amazon is the 3 wolf, one moon T-shirt. The beauty of it all is that it is much more affordable than the Bigma rocket launcher.
The FTZ should not be a limiter in focus speed. It’s possible (and probable) that you need to play with the focus modes on the z50. This would be the case with any new body. Make sure each camera is set as closely as possible. AF-S vs AF-C. Single shot vs continuous. Etc.I'm so far extremely disappointed with the autofocusing function on the Z50 with the FTZ adapter with my 35mm f/1.8. I've only been able to test it in low light, but still the D7500 is doing many circles around it. Glad I have not returned the D7500. I splurged and decided to land on two lenses - the 35mm f/1.8 and a 24-70mm f/2.8 ($$$). Both are AF-S lenses and would require the FTZ adapter. Maybe the FTZ adapter will play nicer with the 24-70mm f/2.8, it comes in tomorrow. But right now I am unfortunately leaning towards returning the Z50. I can't afford Z lenses. I tried updating the firmware to the latest to see if that improved things, but so far not much. I LOVE being able to see the exposure in realtime, but I would rather have autofocus working correctly than that. I've also found that being able to use the display as the "viewfinder" so to speak is helpful in challenging shots where I would otherwise have to be laying on the floor, I can just tilt the screen up, lower my arms and shoot. I can technically do this on the D7500 with live view, but it works better on the Z50. The Z50 is also better for video hands down. Despite these advantages, I lean towards the D7500.
Good advice. I will try this. The Z50 just seems to search all over the place about half the time (and the other half it does great) where as the D7500 hones in pretty much perfectly every time.The FTZ should not be a limiter in focus speed. It’s possible (and probable) that you need to play with the focus modes on the z50. This would be the case with any new body. Make sure each camera is set as closely as possible. AF-S vs AF-C. Single shot vs continuous. Etc.
The Z50 just seems to search all over the place about half the time
I'm so far extremely disappointed with the autofocusing function on the Z50 with the FTZ adapter with my 35mm f/1.8. I've only been able to test it in low light, but still the D7500 is doing many circles around it. Glad I have not returned the D7500. I splurged and decided to land on two lenses - the 35mm f/1.8 and a 24-70mm f/2.8 ($$$). Both are AF-S lenses and would require the FTZ adapter. Maybe the FTZ adapter will play nicer with the 24-70mm f/2.8, it comes in tomorrow. But right now I am unfortunately leaning towards returning the Z50. I can't afford Z lenses. I tried updating the firmware to the latest to see if that improved things, but so far not much. I LOVE being able to see the exposure in realtime, but I would rather have autofocus working correctly than that. I've also found that being able to use the display as the "viewfinder" so to speak is helpful in challenging shots where I would otherwise have to be laying on the floor, I can just tilt the screen up, lower my arms and shoot. I can technically do this on the D7500 with live view, but it works better on the Z50. The Z50 is also better for video hands down. Despite these advantages, I lean towards the D7500.
I've not experienced any problems focusing in poor light with my Z50, but let us know what you were trying to photograph and in what conditions, and I'll try and reproduce it.Well, when I started this thread I didn't expect myself to splurge and buy the 24-70mm f/2.8, but wow am I glad I did! I understand what you guys meant when buying the expensive one may pay off in the long run. This will very likely be my walk around lens due to its awesome versatility.
In terms of the Z50 and the D7500.
I've narrowed the issue down with the Z50. It's not the autofocus as much as its challenge of focusing in low light. The D7500 does circles around it. I've done some searching online and it may be a drawback of the mirrorless system. Does anyone have any thoughts or experience on the Z system in low light?
I would not ever judge a camera's focusing ability on whether or not it could reliably focus at ISO 28k. I mean that is insane. It wasn't that long ago that ISO 3200 was maxing it out. You are well beyond low-light here. I have shot post-sunset photos on the beach and only hit like 12k on ISO.I'm really wondering if it's my FTZ adapter. It was dimly lit room shooting a picture of my dog on the floor about 6 or 7 feet away (just a test photo). Sounds like a tough shot but the D7500 was able to do it on the same settings. I tried changing the live view option that Molly suggested but that didn't seem to make a change. Sometimes the focus goes wildly out of focus and it doesn't know how to focus at all and I have to step in with the manual focus and then it goes back on track and finds a reasonable subject. This is true with the 35mm f/1.8 and the 24-70 f/2.8 Nikkor lenses. But it seems it's more of a all or or nothing thing with the FTZ adapter? It works or it doesn't? Most of the time, in proper light, it works excellent.
I'm really torn. How often am I going to be in these low light situations - I'm not sure, but I would like the versatility. The video that the Z50 captured last night in normal conditions was honestly absolutely gorgeous and stunning, which is very attractive to me. It autofocuses beautifully as my 13 month old flailed around. 😂 But I also think the most frequent video opportunities I'll have will be those impromptu family moments and my iPhone may be the primary shooter for those. I also really love the exposure in real time as I learn more of how to shoot good photos, but I'm sure I can continue to learn on a traditional dSLR (just less immediate gratification).
Here are the same pictures back to back - one where it could focus and another where it could not:
Z50
24 mm f/2.8
ISO 28,800 (auto)
Shutter speed: 1/125 (too fast I know... but also happens on slower shutter)
FYI - both pictures have underwear quickly photoshopped out from the right, LOL. It was a test pic! 😳😅🤪View attachment 964193View attachment 964194
Yin Ze JetCity Ninja - March 24, 2019
Here's a list from dpreview i don't have time to write it all as there are too many but if there is one thing colleagues have found lacking in z7 is af. i have Nikon DSLR system but use the Sony A9 with Sony/Zeiss lenses for a majority of my work now due to the silent shutter, iso performance, speed, and it's 4k video capabilities.... It was a business decision that has easily paid itself off.
AF system hunts in low light, due to limited sensitivity
Face detect less reliable than competition
AF Tracking less reliable than competition
AF Tracking cumbersome to engage/disengage
Touchscreen cannot be used for touchpad AF when using the EVF
Limited AF button customization
Significant rolling shutter in full-frame 4K footage
No live feed at 9fps
Live feed at 5.5fps suffers from significant drop in EVF refresh rate
Very limited buffer
Inconsistent metering, heavily weighted to AF point
On-sensor AF causes banding, slightly limiting usable dynamic range
Aggressive noise reduction at high ISO
Electronic first curtain shutter (EFCS) needed to avoid potential shutter shock (yet is off by default)
EFCS limits shutter speed to 1/2000
Two-Button-Reset and Quick Format actions missing
No linear response option for video shooters wishing to manual focus
Battery life on the short side
Single card slot
No flip-around screen for vlogging
The AF system was upgraded considerably via firmware over the past few months, and well after that post in 2019 was written. I have not used Sony, and while I believe Sony likely still has a slight advantage in some situations, the Z series is very robust. Most internet searches maligning the Z focus system were from when the camera line was introduced, not after firmware version 3.0.Here's a post on fstoppers regarding the Z7 AF with an FTZ adapter:
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FTZ Adapter to Be Included With All Nikon Z 6 and Z 7 for Free
In case you were holding your breath, were on the fence, or just needed another excuse to take a look at Nikon's mirrorless Z 6 or Z 7 model, now your purchase includes the FTZ adapter for free when purchased within the US. The FTZ adapter is now to be included with your new camera body...fstoppers.com
if these are the limitations of the Nikon Z AF system, good thing I didn't bother to try it out - would've been a deal breaker for me - the Sony A6000 beats this...
It's great that you found a system that works for you, but just as I would not speak ill of Sony since I haven't tried it, until you actually use the Z system, probably best you not just decide it's crap.
Using FX lenses on DX bodies never caused me any issues on an F mount Nikon. But obviously not strictly comparable.Is the 24 to 70 a FX lens? if so could the issue with the focusing be caused by using a FX lens on a DX body?
Nikon's definitely not crap, just not the value for the money, especially used. Since Nikon is new to the mirrorless game, their cameras and lenses are expensive (to recup their R&D costs), even used. Sony, on the other hand, has been doing it for so long, they have great deals in the used market. For aviation, my A6000 (used, $200, launched 2014) has no problems taking pics at 11fps with the "kit" zoom, which is too fast for the planes I take pics of, so I use the "mid" speed of 6fps. I got a Fuji X-T100 (used, $350, kit zoom: $200) which was introduced in 2018 and the A6000 runs circles around it. The X-T100 does okay at 6fp but the kit zoom struggles to keep up. It will do much better with a better zoom, but those are $600 used..
I'm talking that Sony right now used is great value for money.