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AI Browser Dia Launches Publicly on Mac
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Start in 18 months?..how about started two years ago? Adding AI to a browser, any browser, IS enpoopification.
I take it you wern't on the web during the Netscape era.
Another case of using AI to “solve” a nonexistent “problem”
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please let us know, i am pretty sure many of us are wondering the same thing
I agree
I find all that I need with free ChatGPT and Grok and all is fine for my needs and can live with the limitations it has for now
I could justify this if it were less than $20/mo, but that amount for removing limitations on things like chat and stuff seems a bit steep if you ask me
Mark my words, I think within a decade or so (maybe in less time), a lot of these features will be integrated into all browsers and we shouldn't have to pay extra for them
I'm personally skeptical, but I think the pitch goes something like: you use your browser a lot to do search + research; this will assist you in that workflow. If you think about how Safari 1.0 had a built-in search field in the toolbar, then eventually even merged the search field with the address field because it's just so common that people want to type something to search, the progress could be "what if people can type a question that an LLM answers for them".
Now, two problems:
- I think this overestimates how much lasting value LLMs will have. We're in the middle of a hype cycle. How many people will pay $20/mo just for this?
- But the much bigger problem for Atlassian specifically is: to use Steve Jobs's parlance, this is a feature, not a product. Back then, he decided "instead of buying Dropbox, we can just build our own syncable folder". These days, browser vendors might decide, "instead of licensing Dia, we can just put a damn textbox in our own browsers". What's the thing Dia can do that would require a lot of work for Apple, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla to do? Nothing. There's nothing there.
It’s just a social experiment to see how many people will be gullible enough to pay for a browser.
I would love to pay for a browser if
- it's good
- it has a privacy focus
- it offers advantages over Safari
CEO Josh (he sucks) at the helm killing off Arc for this mess Dia and now being rolled into Atlassian, which come on Jira is a mess too. Hopefully Zen or Nook takes the torch from Arc.
Just a reminder that these guys ditched their previous project, Arc, after only 3 years. I would not trust them to stand by this one either.
Just when I switched to Arc, they decided to stop adding features and focus on Dia.
But Arc is not dead, it’s still receiving updates.
OK cool, but Google is likely to put all of this and more into Chrome for 'free' (as in if it's free or ad supported, you are the product).
But I'm sure that the tens of thousands or so users that will use this are happy.
And I'm happy that the Browser Company got acquired. As Netscape found in the 90s, providing a browser as your main product when other companies with deep pockets will make one for free, is not sustainable.
And on that note - who on earth uses Opera? And how on earth has it survived that long? Maybe I'm wrong.
But I'm sure that the tens of thousands or so users that will use this are happy.
And I'm happy that the Browser Company got acquired. As Netscape found in the 90s, providing a browser as your main product when other companies with deep pockets will make one for free, is not sustainable.
And on that note - who on earth uses Opera? And how on earth has it survived that long? Maybe I'm wrong.
Yeah... and I bet that there's already ad-blocker with AI, that will really kill the business. Or not?
I like my browsers to do as little as possible by default, and then I'll extend them as I see fit with Extensions.
You must be too young to have noticed the metaverse bubble, crypto bubble, dotcom bubble and the two major home computer bubbles circa 1990.
A bubble popping doesn’t mean the technology disappears. It means many start ups fail, a lot of investor money is lost, the left overs are acquired by the winners.
This week JP Morgan and the Bank of England said the valuations are too high and the AI bubble is going to hurt people.
Apple will be least affected by the bursting of the bubble because they played safe. They slowly accumulate and implement the useful stuff cleanly without coming off as hyping it or shoving the AI bits down your throat.
What is “wow” us? AI tools in an operating system and apps should not be like lasers and unicorns jumping out of the screen like those 1998 Intel ads. The features should not feel intrusive. They should be there if we need them and out of the way when we don’t need them.
This is like saying that getting things done is the solution to a problem that has not yet been identified.
Oh I wouldn't worry about any privacy issues with your data in the hands of companies.
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It's mostly receiving maintenance updates for security reasons and/or to keep up with Chromium.
And who knows how long that'll last.