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In clearly-not-at-all-coincidental-news, Chrome performed an update this evening when I sat down to my gaming PC, and then promptly informed me that it now has AI built-in. (sigh...)
AI have been in chrome from a while now, so not sure what they mean, try Zen, unless you really need a Chromium based browser
 
Will give it a try. But don't think I will use it as my primary browser as I am very satisfied with Safari.
 
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Wow, people here are so anti-AI lol. Come on everyone it won’t kill you. Well… ok, it might, but it’s worth it!
No... totally. There's no chance at all that life imitates art. That's (ahem) not really a thing... right?

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But more seriously... speaking for myself at least, I'd say that my negative feelings aren't so much directed at AI per se, but rather, at the way marketing teams mislead consumers by dubbing any and every technology even vaguely similar to the classical description of AI as such, even when the technology in question has no actual path to achieving the "dream" of true AI -- which has more recently been re-dubbed "AGI" so that marketers can do as they please with the original term. (I've commented on this before.)

Mind you, I do indeed use "AI" (aka LLM searches and the like) to inform myself about things, when it's the most expedient tool at hand; I just don't see nearly as much promise in the LLM path as the hype would have you believe.
 
Wow, people here are so anti-AI lol. Come on everyone it won’t kill you. Well… ok, it might, but it’s worth it!
I find tools like Copilot invaluable when I’m working. Especially when I’m working on an issue in our data centre or when trying to plan something out. As everything is so integrated with Microsoft 365 it’s so impressive with what it can do. So it’s absolutely worth the license cost and an invaluable tool to me.

I quite like Gemini as well and Chat GPT. The stuff Gemini can do with images for free for example is very impressive.

I have also been impressed with the AI tools in Photoshop but also find it infuriating when it keeps falsely detecting “inappropriate or copyrighted content” in some of my images. It seems to have been tuned in such an over the top way that it refuses to do a lot of what I want. And it keeps getting worse.
 
I bet: if „AI companies“ were to name their technologies using technical terms, their share price would fall by 90%.

Markov Chain is pretty boring, Tensors would likely make people feel stressed (they do me). Softmax would likely been seen as pornographic in the UK.

But; Transformer is a pretty good name. Makes one think of it being used to power Killer Robots and stuff.
 
Wow, people here are so anti-AI lol. Come on everyone it won’t kill you. Well… ok, it might, but it’s worth it!
It is not so much the AI that is the problem, well it is to some extent, uses far too much energy and water for people to do silly things.
The main problem is the people behind most of it and what they can do with it. Also, is it really AI? All it is doing is pinching ideas and stuff from other people, which is another reason I don't like it.

The thing is I have no need for it.
 
I'm not sure what an AI-based browser is supposed to do for me. Can someone explain why I need something like this?
I can't say why you would personally find it useful, but I can give you an example of how I did.

I used (Perplexity) Comet Assistant to pull 300+ order details from 4 different Japanese websites and put the results in a single CSV, with side-by-side translations.

Why? So I can more easily search my orders. It probably would have taken me hours to do it manually, but more than that it was such a daunting task I would never have evrn attempted it and just struggled on.
 
I can't say why you would personally find it useful, but I can give you an example of how I did.

I used (Perplexity) Comet Assistant to pull 300+ order details from 4 different Japanese websites and put the results in a single CSV, with side-by-side translations.

Why? So I can more easily search my orders. It probably would have taken me hours to do it manually, but more than that it was such a daunting task I would never have evrn attempted it and just struggled on.
Interesting
 
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There's just so many browsers available, I just don't see the need for yet another one. Most other browsers won't even qualify as niche as their usage is going to be so small.
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Well, at least Arc still works and they even push new Chrome version now and then. New new features though.

Kinda ironic, using Arc daily for Atlassian webapps for work. Dia looks and feels pointless.
Yup, exactly

I use it at least on my iPhone too (no iPad version tho) and it works just fine for my needs

I love how you can just do the browse for me thing if you don't need a full-on search, and when you roll over a link, you'll get some pertinent info right there without having to click into it too
 
OK, so, I said I'd download Dia and give it a try. I did.

It's based on Chromium (which surprised me), not Apple's WebKit, so it has a few advantages and disadvantages.

The advantages are that a few websites seem to just work better on Chromium-based browsers (since Chrome itself is so prevalent). Ones I find work a bit better are Reddit and, believe it or not, MacRumors. Both just seem more responsive. Reddit really bogs down on Safari, at least for me. Some of the internal work webpages I need to log into for work also seem to have better formatting on Chromium-based browsers than they do on Safari, but these differences are minor. The disadvantage is that, in general, Safari otherwise is the faster browser for many other sites, though my computer is fast enough that it probably makes no real-world difference.

A disadvantage is that since it's Chromium-based, some of the non-native UI elements are out of place, especially on Tahoe. The Dia developers have improved things a little by using native drop-downs on the favorites bar versus what ever internal routines are used on Chrome and Edge, but it still feels a bit "off" as compared with a completely native UI, especially, again, on Tahoe.

As for the AI aspect of the browser, I've done a few things with it and it seems handy enough when there's a proper use-case for it (like asking questions and summarizing things on a particular page like telling me how many times someone has been assigned someplace on a work schedule QGenda spreadsheet -- which it got wrong multiple times, by the way), but I'm not sure that, at least in my workflow, it's enough to get me to change over from Safari. But I'll keep trying to find the killer use for it and report back if I do.
 
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