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I'm planning on purchasing bejeeve when I get my iphone. How does it compare to Adium. I love that program and I'm basically looking for an phone equivalent.
 
The push notifications come through to your phone even if you are currently using AIM on your desktop machine. I have had the app for only an hour and have sadly had to disable the notifications since it was driving me nuts.

Easily fixed.

Set your status on the iPhone app to 'Away'

The messages only go to the desktop. Once you close the desktop app the messages go to the iPhone.
 
No, it's a Twitter issue. Imagine if Tweetie decided to setup a push server, thus becoming the only twitter client for the iPhone that supported push. Everyone would use it, which is great, only until the bandwidth bill arrives. There is so much data pumping through twitter that it would not be economically feasible for tweetie to set this up.

That is not accurate.

140 character text bites is not going to be very expensive. Bandwidth is relatively cheap. Having 1 video likely would use the bandwidth for 10,000 twitter users.

That being said if it is a little bit more then can raise the price or charge a small monthly fee. Regardless, you are way over-rating how much bandwidth costs.

1 gig of bandwidth could handle almost 715k twitter messages. Go price 1 gig of bandwidth at reasonable bulk levels. Heck mobileme gives you like 200 gigs of bandwidth included with their package a month.

A terabyte of bandwidth would allow you to transmit 715 million twitter messages a month.

I just checked with my host and their cheapest dedicated server comes with 2 terabytes of bandwidth, and including the server is $129.00 a month.

So you could transmit 1.4 billion twitter messages a month and half a server to handle it (probably need to boost it up, but we are talking a few hundred dollars more, worst case scenario probably less than $1000 a month) to handle it.

Sure there is overhead and everything else.. but then lets cut that down to an even 1 billion. That would be enough for every person who owns an iphone and an ipod touch to received 25 twitter messages a month, via push.

Not to mention that is all probably completely unnecessary, as you only need to push the alert of the message and not the actual message itself. You could likely have some kind of monitoring to trigger the push, and then still have the app pull the messages from twitter via the API. Which means you could essentially have an infinite number of push notifications for twitter for $200 a month. The limiting factor would be the servers to manage this, but again, that is not that expensive, relatively speaking these days.

The problem is it is unlikely that most of the twitter app developers have the experience and background to do this without hiring more people. Running servers for things like this is very different than writing an application for a consumer product.

Fortunately it would not be impossible for someone to do it, if they wanted to tackle the problem. It would not be easy, but it is not cost prohibitive on most levels for any of the paid applications.
 
idotht believe push is a huge strain on your battery any more than exchange push is. You can have 50 push apps but there is still only one push daemon running. I mean, it could be push but there is so many variables it's hard to say if that's it.

I didn't think so either. Considering I already have mobileme push turned on I just went down from 79% to 58% in under an hour and I only had 10 messages come through on push total.

Hope this is a software glitch, and I will test it further, but as is I won't be able to keep it on. :-(
 
They're probably talking about Adobe Flash.

OMG. I dont believe you didnt get what he meant. As the other two poster have already said, Its Adobe Flash which ipoppy was talking about. If apple gets adobe flash for iPhone then there would be very little difference in a full desktop browser and iPhone Safari.

:rolleyes:

Did I really post that? I did, didn't I?.. At what, 6:00 in the morning? That is the LAST time I ever post before the Today Show.

In other news, those reporting the Free AIM isn't working right - mine is working fine, and even did before the restart which I did last night too. I would certainly get the Paid AIM on its first price drop.

As some have said, I get the message on my phone within a literal second of hitting enter. Aside from needing a little polish here and there, and a cleaning of the Preference panes, it's really nice for free. The ad isn't even intrusive or annoying as some can be.
 
Finally I've waited for this day where I can really use MSN with push notification. Purchased Beehive IM. Well worth the $10.

dL
 
That is not accurate.

140 character text bites is not going to be very expensive. Bandwidth is relatively cheap. Having 1 video likely would use the bandwidth for 10,000 twitter users.

That being said if it is a little bit more then can raise the price or charge a small monthly fee. Regardless, you are way over-rating how much bandwidth costs.

1 gig of bandwidth could handle almost 715k twitter messages. Go price 1 gig of bandwidth at reasonable bulk levels. Heck mobileme gives you like 200 gigs of bandwidth included with their package a month.

A terabyte of bandwidth would allow you to transmit 715 million twitter messages a month.

I just checked with my host and their cheapest dedicated server comes with 2 terabytes of bandwidth, and including the server is $129.00 a month.

So you could transmit 1.4 billion twitter messages a month and half a server to handle it (probably need to boost it up, but we are talking a few hundred dollars more, worst case scenario probably less than $1000 a month) to handle it.

Sure there is overhead and everything else.. but then lets cut that down to an even 1 billion. That would be enough for every person who owns an iphone and an ipod touch to received 25 twitter messages a month, via push.

Not to mention that is all probably completely unnecessary, as you only need to push the alert of the message and not the actual message itself. You could likely have some kind of monitoring to trigger the push, and then still have the app pull the messages from twitter via the API. Which means you could essentially have an infinite number of push notifications for twitter for $200 a month. The limiting factor would be the servers to manage this, but again, that is not that expensive, relatively speaking these days.

The problem is it is unlikely that most of the twitter app developers have the experience and background to do this without hiring more people. Running servers for things like this is very different than writing an application for a consumer product.

Fortunately it would not be impossible for someone to do it, if they wanted to tackle the problem. It would not be easy, but it is not cost prohibitive on most levels for any of the paid applications.

Well, there´s at least one dedicated push twitter app submited to the appstore, and IM+ will support push for DMs and @s
 
Apparantly apple is in awesome mode right now. The last few weeks have certainly been the most fun and exciting in a while.
 
Bought Beejive last night hoping for the upgrade to come soon, turned out I didn't need to wait for the upgrade because I actually got the 3.0 when I bought.
 
Any one having issues with Beejive and MSN??
I get a notification every couple hours that says I'm disconnected
 
What is your point? Did anyone in this entire thread say anything incorrect about how push works? And when did you "pay for push"? I got the 3.0 software for free and the AIM app for free.

The thing you don't seem to understand is that without real background apps there are going to be a lot of compromises in a lot of apps, not just IM clients. I don't really see how a Skype client, for example, could work all that well. Are you going to get a push notification when you get a phone call? Can I ever have an app that shuts off the ringer automatically after a certain time?

I just wish Apple would open things up. There's an army of people out there developing apps and I wouldn't mind seeing some that interact more directly with the OS to do things that have great utility instead of having 47 different fart applications.

Early in this thread, people were having arguments about how they thought push worked. The point is that the app doesn't run when a push notification arrives. The notification is just some text that Apple sends to your phone and the OS displays without telling the app.

You could get Skype push notifications when you get a call. However, since calls only work on WiFi, this is of limited use.

You could get push working for Twitter. It has nothing to do with Twitter's servers. An app server could periodically poll your followed people to check for new messages and send a push notification when there has been. It's a fetch system, so the notifications wouldn't be near-instant, but they would work when the app is closed.

Push is a fairly convoluted way of getting background apps, but it's the most battery efficient way, which makes it the best in Apple's view.

Oh, and I did pay for Push: I paid for the 3.0 update for my iPod touch, I paid for the 3.0 update for my iPhone in my subscription (according to Apple's accountants), I paid for BeeJive, so I did pay for push. I don't want it logging me out and shutting off my push after arbitrary inactivity periods.
 
I've got the latest Beejive version, but I don't seem to be getting Push notifications. Beejive's support website hasn't been updated yet to reflect the new Beejive version.

Anyone wanna post a "how-to" on setting up Beejive to work properly to get push notifications?

:D
 
I've got the latest Beejive version, but I don't seem to be getting Push notifications. Beejive's support website hasn't been updated yet to reflect the new Beejive version.

Anyone wanna post a "how-to" on setting up Beejive to work properly to get push notifications?

:D

Settings/Notifications. Turn it on.
 
Anyone else not getting a sound with their push notifications?

Finally Yahoo seems to be working right now, so thats a start, just want sounds/vibration alerts to work :confused:
 
Any one having issues with Beejive and MSN??
I get a notification every couple hours that says I'm disconnected

I'm having the same problem with MSN this morning. AIM stays connected but every couple hours I get disconnected from MSN.
 
Wrong.

There is a separate push option for applications in the main settings menu called notifications.

it's not working for me...

I've activated the Push option in the beejive settings and the iphone notification settings. Do i need to disable the push in beejive and delete the email i put in there?
 
Beejive isn't giving me the update option.

I found 3.0 in the App Store, but the updates tab says "All Apps Are Up To Date At This Time."

My Beejive version is still 2.0.21 (I think that's what the numbers are)
 
Beejive isn't giving me the update option.

I found 3.0 in the App Store, but the updates tab says "All Apps Are Up To Date At This Time."

My Beejive version is still 2.0.21 (I think that's what the numbers are)

Did that for me too at first. I just exited out of applications, got back in and the update was there. You might also want to try restarting your phone.
 
@marksman
Youre confusing gigabytes with gigabits. Bandwidth is measured in Megabits, Gigabits etc. Storage is measured in megabytes giga etc... And yes, bandwidth is expensive
 
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