ummm....
IM+ 3.1 pushes through notifications, IM+3.0 pushes through e-mail. don't be confused with Apple's 3.0 and IM+'s 3.0.
look more into it. if you delete AIM and reinstall it you will get the new version.
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AIM and Beejive Instant Messaging iPhone Apps Updated with Push Notifications
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ummm....
IM+ 3.1 pushes through notifications, IM+3.0 pushes through e-mail. don't be confused with Apple's 3.0 and IM+'s 3.0.
look more into it. if you delete AIM and reinstall it you will get the new version.
There seems to be a lot of confusion over push notification. I think your getting confused with MobileMe's push email service and apple's new push notification service. These are 2 different things. Apple's new push notification service does not use SMS. It may show up on your iphone looking like a txt msg but it is not and will not count towards your sms plan and has nothing to do with MobileMe.
I bought Beejive IM 3.0 and have been trying it out through out the day. I had som initial problems with disconnections after exiting the app and locking the phone. I thought it was related to session timeouts, but I had set it to 24 hours. It might have been server overloading.
I've been logged in for about 3 hours now without any disconnects. The push notifications work really good. It's just like having a desktop client in the backround. The experience is just seemless, if I didn't know better I would say it ran in the backround.
It's been a long while of waiting, but it was definatly worth it so far. I just wonder if the 20%-ish drain on battery will hold up.
I've been logged in for about 3 hours now without any disconnects. The push notifications work really good. It's just like having a desktop client in the backround. The experience is just seemless, if I didn't know better I would say it ran in the backround.
It's been a long while of waiting, but it was definatly worth it so far. I just wonder if the 20%-ish drain on battery will hold up.
While technically accurate not entirely accurate. Sure they could sit around and wait for twitter to do something. But then what do we need them for...
Given that they can already access the data, they can create their own push server to send notifications to apple if they chose to do that. That developer does not choose to undertake that project but instead hopes that twitter will create a means to send notifications to the iphones directly. This seems a bit weird to me, but I don't know anything about the twitter API. I am not entirely sure what Twitter's motivation would be for this... I would think something like this they would want to control themselves so they could make their own iPhone app and have people use it, if and when they ever decide they want to actually make money with their site.
If twitter is working on a solution, great, I don't care one way or another. For a developer to claim it is not possible to do without that change is simply not true.
I'd argue that this is prohibitively expensive. If they have to cache your login credentials (since they'd probably have to count each scrape against your daily API call allowance), I'd also argue that it's a grey area for security, ethics, privacy, and a host of other problem areas.
This is a shocking revelation, I assure you.
You can monetize your service without gouging end users.
This actually has happened to me, it is a bug, a really annoying bug. Had Apple not been so closed in their push notification trails (I'm a developer but didn't get the email) perhaps this bug could have been avoided???
Response from Beejive for Yahoo Error
Ok I went ahead and emailed Beejive support because like many of you, I can't get into Yahoo Messenger. This is the response I got from Beejive.
Hi,
Sorry for the inconvenience. There has been a change in the yahoo servers. There is an issue with third party clients. We are currently working actively on the problem and will try to get it up and running in the next patch.
Thank You for your patience!
Ok I went ahead and emailed Beejive support because like many of you, I can't get into Yahoo Messenger. This is the response I got from Beejive.
Hi,
Sorry for the inconvenience. There has been a change in the yahoo servers. There is an issue with third party clients. We are currently working actively on the problem and will try to get it up and running in the next patch.
Thank You for your patience!
There's a thread on the Beejive forums about increasing the timeout:
http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1725
One of the mods has replied with:
"We understand this request. We can certainly up the timeout in the next update, it's a relatively simple change."
On a separate note, I'm getting the notifications through just fine, but when I get a disconnect notification, no sound is played. I'm assuming this is how it's supposed to be, but personally, I would like an audible notification if I get signed out.
http://www.beejive.com/support/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1725
One of the mods has replied with:
"We understand this request. We can certainly up the timeout in the next update, it's a relatively simple change."
On a separate note, I'm getting the notifications through just fine, but when I get a disconnect notification, no sound is played. I'm assuming this is how it's supposed to be, but personally, I would like an audible notification if I get signed out.
I think it most usually happens with the AP app... I'm curious to know if other apps (ALL Push Notifications) will cause the Alarm Clock not to sound off if a push notification comes in during the night.
that's nice. now all I need to wait for is a price cut
if ur talkin bout beejive its stil $9.99 normally 16.99 dont think its going to be getting much lower
It's the same exact model.
The Twitter "application" that would normally run on your desktop or iPhone is now an application server. This server had your iPhone information, and your Twitter account information (searches, etc., depending on the app). It constantly polls for updates across Twitter just like the actual application when it's running on your phone.
When it finds an update, it pushes it to your phone through APNS. It is NO DIFFERENT than a regular Twitter application. It just shifts the polling from the phone app to the app server. Yes, there are server costs, but they are surely attainable and not ridiculous. The first to implement this will make a lot of money.
Someone sent me a message on beejive around 4:30 in the morning last night, it did push a notification, I was not awake. My alarm went off at 8:30 this morning just like normal. I did not have my phone set to vibrate.
Why don't you try it if you think it's so attainable.
It's VERY cost prohibitive.
You're certainly not the first person to come up with this idea. The developers of the twitter apps have all tried to come up with a cost-friendly solution and haven't found one yet.
Yeah and $9.99 is really good for what Beejive does.
Additionally, how do you set your iPhone to have Alarm Only and no other sounds so that I don't get woken up by a push notification or something else?
I just tested in with the AIM client. Push arrived then the alarm went off as normal. Only thing I noticed is that the push notification didn't display after I had cleared the alarm (it did have the number on the icon once unlocked though).
So explain to me how the team behind IM+ have managed to implement a solution? I get @replies and DM's pushed to my email. So logic dictates that there is absolutely no reason why this won't become a push notification in the soon to be released IM+ 3.1
It is obvious they are polling your twitter account maybe every 3 or 4 minutes. Its so simple I don't know why people are even continuing this discussion. Nothing stopping TweetDeck or Tweetie from implementing a server infrastructure to poll/push for their customers.
AIM will send to the client that's available. BeeJive has an auto-away feature that sets it to away when you exit the app. If you do this, when you sign in elsewhere, it will send it to your available app.
To me, it seems like just idling inside the AIM application just drains 1% of battery life per 2-3 minutes.. This tells me when you're inside AIM you're keeping a real, live connection to the AIM servers..
This needs to be ditched in favor of a proxy server or just stick to pushing incoming and OUTgoing messages (if possible) and we'd have wayyy better battery life..
Think about how the Sidekick can stay on multiple e-mail push clients, multiple chatting clients, etc.etc. and get 8+ hours of real hands on usage. Danger uses a very nice proxy/push system. We can't afford to maintain live/active internet connections where the 3g/Edge connection is being held open until you leave the application.
Or lastly, just open and close a connection on sent messages and use push for all incoming messages. I've lost 20% battery life idling in aim over 15 minutes on my 3GS.
This needs to be ditched in favor of a proxy server or just stick to pushing incoming and OUTgoing messages (if possible) and we'd have wayyy better battery life..
Think about how the Sidekick can stay on multiple e-mail push clients, multiple chatting clients, etc.etc. and get 8+ hours of real hands on usage. Danger uses a very nice proxy/push system. We can't afford to maintain live/active internet connections where the 3g/Edge connection is being held open until you leave the application.
Or lastly, just open and close a connection on sent messages and use push for all incoming messages. I've lost 20% battery life idling in aim over 15 minutes on my 3GS.
If your phone vibrates with every notification, then the battery is going to eat it.
Front camera is just a bad idea. The usage scenario screams "awkward" - holding your phone in front of you to talk to someone just isn't a userfriendly approach. There a many phones with this ability, but the video calls over 3G - one of the great 3G "bullet points" when 3G was introduced here ages ago - is a flop.
No reason for Apple to add that.
Can anyone with AIM tell me if there is a way to only receive vibration notifications? I turned off "Sound" notifications for AIM in the Push section of the Settings app, and notifications don't vibrate anymore. I can't bear to hear the AIM noise for every single message I get. Does BeeJive do the same thing?