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Discussion in 'iPhone' started by M0bile, Jul 1, 2008.
Could this mean free IMs? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
They always said the app would be free, so yes, free IMs.
I'm assuming that IM's will be counted as text messages, as they always have been. Yet, I may be incorrect.
EDIT: seems as if I might be wrong, after all.
Nope. They'll be used as data.
will this be like ichat or is this AOL's client, i want ichat on my iphone so i can get video chat
I doubt it. The messages will be sent and count as data (unless on Wi-Fi).
I believe that since the app runs in a "sandbox", once you go to the home screen or another app, AIM will not run in the background and you will not continue to get IMs.
Wouldn't this be a potential workaround to free text messages?
So does this mean Apple is definitely coming out with iChat for iPhone or that they definitely aren't? I can think of arguments both ways.
It doesn't "definitely" mean anything.
If they put AIM on the iphone as an app, why wouldn't they put ichat on the iphone?
But they can push notifications to your phone.
Isn't AIM going to require Apple's Push notification service, which isn't coming till the fall?
Because your "they" is not consistent. AOL developed AIM, and Apple would have to develop iChat.
Hopefully. We'll have to see how it plays out though.
AIM will use cloud for push notifications, iirc. I'm sure SJ mentioned this at WWDC.
The push notification service would only be required to receive IM notifications when the app isn't running. If an AIM app is released before the push notification service is available, then you just won't get any IMs when the app is closed.
It will, he did.
But we don't know what the guidelines that are governing the service. For all we know, Apple will limit how the service can be used so it doesn't negate things like text messages.
I've heard rumors that Apple won't allow the GPS to be used in certain ways. I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, I could see the push service only being used in certain ways as well.
I'm not saying AIM via push won't happen, I'm just saying that I'm not going to hold my breath until I hear more details.
what makes you think you might be wrong about this? i think they will be treated like text messages which sucks
Apple have inflicted restrictions on the use of the SDK with reference to the A-GPS API within the phone.
This is due to fears of law-suits from leading GPS competition, and means 3rd-party applications developed with Apple's iPhone SDK
are not allowed to use the GPS functionality of the iPhone for tracking.
The API can however be used for location-based applications and services.
Yes, and it has been my plan from the start. It can save you big, well as long as other users have the app. but just form a cult and your set.
They wont be considered as text because that would be a stupid application to have then if its already on the phone.
I think apple wants to negate text messages. SMS and MMS are only used with "Legacy" phones. All new phones that are popular coming out have email on them. I think Apple is sort of phasing this sort of thing out. People can then use the same services on their computers to maintain contact, rather than sending texts and then carrying over to email or chat, you maintain one streamline conversation.
It's a better model in and of itself and it seems AT&T is rather embracing of it by dropping SMS from the default iPhone plan. In the meantime, I made a ymail account (pushes to iPhones) for sending and recieving SMS and MMS.
No way. If the app were being developed with or by AT&T, then I'd agree. Since AOL developed the app via the iPhone dev kit, then I'd bet that messages will not count as texts. I say this because with the dev kit, a developer can write programs that have direct access to the internet. Why would they write a program that interacts with AT&T's text message service instead of directly sending the IM?
this App can be a good way to F*ck over ATT somewhat. If all Iphone users just downloaded a AIM app it would be golden. And cant you send a message to a Cell Phone via AIM. I though I did a few years back and thought it was so bad ass.
That makes sense. Thanks for the info.