iPad Air screen defect?

[Max(IT)]

Um, it is perfectly reasonable to expect a screen without noticeable unevenness in color tone, ESPECIALLY in this price bracket.

The iPad is in the higher end of the spectrum when it comes to tablet cost.

If I got a Nexus 7 for $100 with an uneven screen, I would expect that. When it is coming on my $800 ipad, that was marketed with a "Retina Display," it is unacceptable.

The funny thing is, I had a Nexus 7, and I also have a Kindle Fire HD ($120). None of them have this yellow tint or book spine problem. If I hold my ipad up to my 2009 17'' Macbook Pro, it is so much more yellow it is astonishing.

If you want Apple to be complacent about this problem, then more power to you. Let this company slide into the sewage of companies out there that produce crap.

Sorry, I don't want Apple to turn into the Chrysler of computers.

Again, it is perfectly reasonable to expect a screen with an even tint. I've never even seen this problem until Apple's retina displays came out.

And your defending Apple is pretty ridiculous if you are doing it as a fanboy. The problem lies in the upstream component supplier, which is LG, Sharp or Samsung.

And again, if you don't have the problem, or don't care about it, then go about living your life. I don't understand the point of coming in a thread that people use to discuss the problems that they are having, and antagonizing them by telling them it doesn't exist.

Do you also go onto healthcare forums and also tell cancer patients that they don't have cancer because you don't have it, and that they aren't being reasonable trying to find help?

Since the supplier are the same for ANY tablet manufacturer, I say again there isn't a perfect display on the market.
Do you think Sharp will provide different panel to Apple ? No, they are using the same technology for iPad and for galaxy note (for example).
Most of the people here keep speaking about "yellow" display as a defect.
It's just a different color calibration. Not to speak about the ridiculous "book spine" defect: I still have to see a single real defective unit.
And I saw a lot of photos posted by people trying to demonstrate a problem while I could see just perfectly acceptable displays.

I know there are defective unit on the market. Dead pixels, backlight bleeding due to a bad assembly, I saw a couple of displays with a real problem of color tone. But most of the complainers here are just returning acceptable units.
My presence in this thread is not any of your business, and comparing cancer disease with picky users is just ridiculous.
There are dozens of users with perfectly working iPads looking for non existent problems just because they red threads like this.

 

[bevsb2]

Since the supplier are the same for ANY tablet manufacturer, I say again there isn't a perfect display on the market.
Do you think Sharp will provide different panel to Apple ? No, they are using the same technology for iPad and for galaxy note (for example).
Most of the people here keep speaking about "yellow" display as a defect.
It's just a different color calibration. Not to speak about the ridiculous "book spine" defect: I still have to see a single real defective unit.
And I saw a lot of photos posted by people trying to demonstrate a problem while I could see just perfectly acceptable displays.

I know there are defective unit on the market. Dead pixels, backlight bleeding due to a bad assembly, I saw a couple of displays with a real problem of color tone. But most of the complainers here are just returning acceptable units.
My presence in this thread is not any of your business, and comparing cancer disease with picky users is just ridiculous.
There are dozens of users with perfectly working iPads looking for non existent problems just because they red threads like this.

Maybe it is the use of the defective word here that is the problem. I had 3 Airs with yellow-greenish tints to the screen that may not have been defective but had a color that was unacceptable to me and distorted other colors in the display. Coming from an iPad 4 with a perfectly even white screen I found this to be unsatisfactory even if not defective. My 4th Air has a very good screen, probably as good as it gets for the Air and I'm happy with it. I am picky, but I don't consider myself to be unreasonable and I don't think people should have to consider screens with unpleasant tints, noticeable color shifts or marked back light bleeding as acceptable.

 

[NovemberWhiskey]

Since the supplier are the same for ANY tablet manufacturer, I say again there isn't a perfect display on the market.
Do you think Sharp will provide different panel to Apple ? No, they are using the same technology for iPad and for galaxy note (for example).
Most of the people here keep speaking about "yellow" display as a defect.
It's just a different color calibration. Not to speak about the ridiculous "book spine" defect: I still have to see a single real defective unit.
And I saw a lot of photos posted by people trying to demonstrate a problem while I could see just perfectly acceptable displays.

I know there are defective unit on the market. Dead pixels, backlight bleeding due to a bad assembly, I saw a couple of displays with a real problem of color tone. But most of the complainers here are just returning acceptable units.
My presence in this thread is not any of your business, and comparing cancer disease with picky users is just ridiculous.
There are dozens of users with perfectly working iPads looking for non existent problems just because they red threads like this.

lol. Whatever you say, buddy.

I'm pretty sure your presence partly becomes my business when you quote me and engage in some ridiculous argument over whether or not I have a problem with my ipad, which you have never seen with your own eyes.

You know how I know you are full of it? When you said the Note and the iPad get the same screen. lol.

Hey, if you don't have the problem, enjoy man. But you sound ridiculous telling other people that they don't. Really, I don't spend my time going into car forums, and telling people they don't have a problem simply because my car is fine and I cannot verify their problem from the pics/vids they posted.

Evidence:

VIDEO EVIDENCE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bYnErqJX4

Yeah, hundreds of people are wrong. But you are right, because you insist you are.

https://discussions.apple.com/message/23629945#23629945

If you don't see these problems, then you need to get your eyes checked. I'm 20/20. The problem is clear to me, and that's saying a lot considering it is impossibly difficult to capture this on camera and that it is much more pronounced in person.

 

[Max(IT)]

I have to admit your iPad is one of the worst I have ever seen in terms of unevenness ....

But in the last photo I can't see anything wrong in the left unit.


Hundreds of people ? They sold something like 20-30 MILLIONS units .... A few hundreds of defective units seems to be a very good result for me.

 

[NovemberWhiskey]

Hundreds of people ? They sold something like 20-30 MILLIONS units .... A few hundreds of defective units seems to be a very good result for me.

Actually, your argument was that the problem does not exist. That is completely different from the problem exists in a small percentage of units produced. You cannot use the latter to bolster the former.

Given that you agree you can see the problem documented in some of the above photos, I think we can both agree that we can drop the argument over whether or not the problem exists--it does.

Now that we can all agree that it exists, I think it more appropriate to spend this space/time trying to pinpoint where the problem lies, and how to fix it. Personally, I've noticed that if you tilt the ipad at certain angles, the yellow goes away/becomes more apparent. Therefore, I would personally conclude that it may be possible that it is a problem with the glass, and not some underlying component or glue as some have speculated.

The effect is similar to the effect of polarized lenses, wherein at one angle, the lens is clear, and at another, it is opaque.

If I had to speculate further, I would say that certain defects are being produced in the glass during cutting (if that is how they produce the glass). Stress due to uneven pressure during the cut may cause some parts of the glass to exhibit certain defects/properties. However, this is just a personal theory.

 

[Max(IT)]

Actually, your argument was that the problem does not exist. That is completely different from the problem exists in a small percentage of units produced. You cannot use the latter to bolster the former.

Given that you agree you can see the problem documented in some of the above photos, I think we can both agree that we can drop the argument over whether or not the problem exists--it does.

Never said all the iPads are flawlessly ... It can't be.
Just said there is not a widespread problem affecting every iPad Air like someone seems to think.

 

[NovemberWhiskey]

Never said all the iPads are flawlessly ... It can't be.
Just said there is not a widespread problem affecting every iPad Air like someone seems to think.

Not really. And you try to backtrack on your statement that there is no yellow/bookspine defect by saying there is no flawless ipad. Those are two different statements, and acknowledging the latter does not undue your former statement. I can very well acknowledge there is no "flawless" ipad and still make the statement that there is no bookspine/yellow defect, as you clearly demonstrate below:

Most of the people here keep speaking about "yellow" display as a defect.
It's just a different color calibration. Not to speak about the ridiculous "book spine" defect: I still have to see a single real defective unit.
And I saw a lot of photos posted by people trying to demonstrate a problem while I could see just perfectly acceptable displays.

But nice try, anyways.

Now your next cheap trick is to say: "see, all I said was I see 'acceptable' displays," but if you will recall, this is perfectly congruous with my statement that yours is a matter of subjective opinion while the defect is a matter of objective fact.

You may consider the yellow tint/bookspine acceptable, but that does not change the fact that it exists on some units, and that some owners find it unacceptable.

 

[Max(IT)]

First of all: there is no "yellow screen".
The screen is WHITE, and the white could have different temperature calibration.
You can like it or not. It's subjective, but that isn't A DEFECT.

Second: the "bookspine" is just a ridiculous definition, maybe born in forum like this, from user like you. A device coul have problem with backlight bleeding or defective assembly, but not a "bookspine".

There wasn't any "attempt" on my side to demonstrate that all the iPads are perfect. I was just pointing out that "bookspine" is a ridiculous invention, yellow tint is another ridiculous invention and there isn't any widespread problem with the iPad Air.
There surely are unevenly backlighted displays, but most of the pictures I saw on this thread were just acceptable units (and picky users).

Your unit, for example, is unevenly backlighted and has a warmer calibration than mine.

 

[Jbru187]

First of all: there is no "yellow screen".
The screen is WHITE, and the white could have different temperature calibration.
You can like it or not. It's subjective, but that isn't A DEFECT.

Second: the "bookspine" is just a ridiculous definition, maybe born in forum like this, from user like you. A device coul have problem with backlight bleeding or defective assembly, but not a "bookspine".

There wasn't any "attempt" on my side to demonstrate that all the iPads are perfect. I was just pointing out that "bookspine" is a ridiculous invention, yellow tint is another ridiculous invention and there isn't any widespread problem with the iPad Air.
There surely are unevenly backlighted displays, but most of the pictures I saw on this thread were just acceptable units (and picky users).

Your unit, for example, is unevenly backlighted and has a warmer calibration than mine.

Book spine and yellow tint are just terms that are being used to describe what the uneven backlight is creating on the screen.

 

[mustu]

I have yet to see a iPad air with no dust in it. I have 2 at home and both units have dust in it. One has multiple specks and the one I am using has 1 speck of dust but they do not have any yellow tint. I will post a picture in the next image with the keyboard.

 

[mustu]

Okay so this is the picture of the iPad. Let me know you inputs. It is the one of the best screens of the lot that I went thru.

 

[NovemberWhiskey]

First of all: there is no "yellow screen".
The screen is WHITE, and the white could have different temperature calibration.
You can like it or not. It's subjective, but that isn't A DEFECT.

Second: the "bookspine" is just a ridiculous definition, maybe born in forum like this, from user like you. A device coul have problem with backlight bleeding or defective assembly, but not a "bookspine".

There wasn't any "attempt" on my side to demonstrate that all the iPads are perfect. I was just pointing out that "bookspine" is a ridiculous invention, yellow tint is another ridiculous invention and there isn't any widespread problem with the iPad Air.
There surely are unevenly backlighted displays, but most of the pictures I saw on this thread were just acceptable units (and picky users).

Your unit, for example, is unevenly backlighted and has a warmer calibration than mine.

lol. Now your argument is equivocation?

You don't even know what you are talking about with regards to color calibration. If that were the case, it shouldn't shift from yellow to white, and back, when I tilt the ipad at certain angles. That has NOTHING to do with color calibration. That was invented by people like you, who mysteriously have some incentive to defend a defect likely produced by a third party supplier. If you want to propose such an absurd GUESS, the burden should be on you to provide proof, just as we have done with our yellow screens and bookspined ipads in pics and vids. Color calibration affects the ENTIRE screen, evenly. It doesn't just affect one side.

I seriously don't understand why you have a problem that a defect exists. Does it really bother you that much? lol.

I'm going to take the advice of other people that have been PMing me, and not engage in conversation with you further. You have demonstrated yourself to be in complete denial, and completely unreasonable. You can think that the Note and the ipad get the same screen; you can argue that this should be called uneven backlighting as opposed to yellow tints; and you can call the bookspine shadows if you want (or dim bands, or whatever makes you happy). But it doesn't really change anything in reality.

Like I said, you can have your opinion. But that is all it is. You've been heard. Move on with your life. Some people in here are trying to document their problems, and help Apple pinpoint the defect and resolve it.

 

[BoneHead001]

lol. Now your argument is equivocation?

You don't even know what you are talking about with regards to color calibration. If that were the case, it shouldn't shift from yellow to white, and back, when I tilt the ipad at certain angles. That has NOTHING to do with color calibration. That was invented by people like you, who mysteriously have some incentive to defend a defect likely produced by a third party supplier. If you want to propose such an absurd GUESS, the burden should be on you to provide proof, just as we have done with our yellow screens and bookspined ipads in pics and vids. Color calibration affects the ENTIRE screen, evenly. It doesn't just affect one side.

I seriously don't understand why you have a problem that a defect exists. Does it really bother you that much? lol.

I'm going to take the advice of other people that have been PMing me, and not engage in conversation with you further. You have demonstrated yourself to be in complete denial, and completely unreasonable. You can think that the Note and the ipad get the same screen; you can argue that this should be called uneven backlighting as opposed to yellow tints; and you can call the bookspine shadows if you want (or dim bands, or whatever makes you happy). But it doesn't really change anything in reality.

Like I said, you can have your opinion. But that is all it is. You've been heard. Move on with your life. Some people in here are trying to document their problems, and help Apple pinpoint the defect and resolve it.

BRAVO!!! Well stated.

 

[Max(IT)]

Okay so this is the picture of the iPad. Let me know you inputs. It is the one of the best screens of the lot that I went thru.

What's wrong with that iPad ?

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lol. Now your argument is equivocation?

You don't even know what you are talking about with regards to color calibration. If that were the case, it shouldn't shift from yellow to white, and back, when I tilt the ipad at certain angles. That has NOTHING to do with color calibration. That was invented by people like you, who mysteriously have some incentive to defend a defect likely produced by a third party supplier. If you want to propose such an absurd GUESS, the burden should be on you to provide proof, just as we have done with our yellow screens and bookspined ipads in pics and vids. Color calibration affects the ENTIRE screen, evenly. It doesn't just affect one side.

I seriously don't understand why you have a problem that a defect exists. Does it really bother you that much? lol.

I'm going to take the advice of other people that have been PMing me, and not engage in conversation with you further. You have demonstrated yourself to be in complete denial, and completely unreasonable. You can think that the Note and the ipad get the same screen; you can argue that this should be called uneven backlighting as opposed to yellow tints; and you can call the bookspine shadows if you want (or dim bands, or whatever makes you happy). But it doesn't really change anything in reality.

Like I said, you can have your opinion. But that is all it is. You've been heard. Move on with your life. Some people in here are trying to document their problems, and help Apple pinpoint the defect and resolve it.

I'm not going anywhere, and it don't have to argument any of my post with you.
LCD panels change slightly in colors when you tilt it, what a surprise !
As I said several times, in the vast majority of the pictures I've seen on this thread, there were absolutely acceptable iPads with picky users trying hard to find defects.
And lately the thread is populated with people perfectly happy with their iPad who have seen the thread and now is asking "how can I verify if I have bookspine ?" , like it was an exotic disease ....

 

[Jbru187]

And lately the thread is populated with people perfectly happy with their iPad who have seen the thread and now is asking "how can I verify if I have bookspine ?" , like it was an exotic disease ....

Really? There was only one poster (michael31986) that fits that description.

 

[mustu]

Really? There was only one poster (michael31986) that fits that description.

Nothing is with this one apart from a very small speck of dust. This was the best screen of the 6 I opened so I kept it.

It's a even good screen. I am happy.

 

[N04h]

LCD panels change slightly in colors when you tilt it, what a surprise !
As I said several times, in the vast majority of the pictures I've seen on this thread, there were absolutely acceptable iPads with picky users trying hard to find defects.

if you are such am expert, you would know that it's hard to capture the problem on a camera.

I have also seen yellow tints and it is pretty obvious in person.

 

[bcorgan19982]

What's wrong with that iPad ?

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I'm not going anywhere, and it don't have to argument any of my post with you.
LCD panels change slightly in colors when you tilt it, what a surprise !
As I said several times, in the vast majority of the pictures I've seen on this thread, there were absolutely acceptable iPads with picky users trying hard to find defects.
And lately the thread is populated with people perfectly happy with their iPad who have seen the thread and now is asking "how can I verify if I have bookspine ?" , like it was an exotic disease ....

Are you in love with apple? Do you sleep with your iPad? Just wondering because your love and devotion to this company is bordering on the clinically insane.

 

[MacBH928]

I want to buy an iPad Air, but when I bought my iPad 3 it had a pinkish hue in one corner. After about 2 years Apple still manufacture defected displays, I thought it was only a problem with the iPad 3 because it was the first time they release a retina display for the iPad.

Any one know if this issue is going to go away? Should I wait it out? Until when?

Its very very irritating to deal with a screen having different hues

 

[Knownotall]

Nooooo

I just exchanged my Air for a new one and it has one of the worst yellow tints on half the screen that I have seen. And it's a Week 2, January build. It doesn't seem to me that they are getting any better. My previous one was a week 52. This is my 5th iPad Air. All I really want now is a screen that is just "ok". If there's just a little yellow on sone side, I'd be ok with that now. My standards have really lowered. I don't even care about the book spine effect, just the yellow tint. I have never exchanged anything more than once in my entire life. If I didn't need the iPad for my business, I would just return it and go back to not having one till this gets fixed.

 

[thelead]

I just exchanged my Air for a new one and it has one of the worst yellow tints on half the screen that I have seen. And it's a Week 2, January build. It doesn't seem to me that they are getting any better. My previous one was a week 52. This is my 5th iPad Air. All I really want now is a screen that is just "ok". If there's just a little yellow on sone side, I'd be ok with that now. My standards have really lowered. I don't even care about the book spine effect, just the yellow tint. I have never exchanged anything more than once in my entire life. If I didn't need the iPad for my business, I would just return it and go back to not having one till this gets fixed.

On a serious note, how do you use it for business??? I can't depend on my rMini for anything on Safari at the moment. The other day I needed to fill out a quick web form, so I thought "hey, I'll just grab my ipad for that". So I opened up safari and opened the one page that I needed to fill out. I entered my name and a few other lines... opened another tab to look up my employers corporate address... went back to my first page and... it was gone after the page refreshed

Seriously the damn iPad couldn't handle two very simple pages...

 

[MacBH928]

Shouldn't we do some kind of a petition? Why is the tech-blogs are not picking on this?

Seriously, a screwed screen is much worse to look at than that stupid antenna gate thing, no one is going to squeeze the iphone while he is speaking, but everyone is going to use his irritating by the iPad screen.

Whats is worse about this defect is that you can't take it to the store and say "LOOK, its not working" because they can simply say "I don't see it!" .

I think the Apple users community should do a thing about this to make Apple fix it. My iphone screen is fabulous , my iPad 1 screen was great, so why is the newer iPads are like this.

 

[Max(IT)]

Shouldn't we do some kind of a petition? Why is the tech-blogs are not picking on this?

Seriously, a screwed screen is much worse to look at than that stupid antenna gate thing, no one is going to squeeze the iphone while he is speaking, but everyone is going to use his irritating by the iPad screen.

Whats is worse about this defect is that you can't take it to the store and say "LOOK, its not working" because they can simply say "I don't see it!" .

I think the Apple users community should do a thing about this to make Apple fix it. My iphone screen is fabulous , my iPad 1 screen was great, so why is the newer iPads are like this.

Actually you are wrong.
You can take the product to the store and have it replaced in the return period (14 or 30 days depends on the Country you live) no question answered.

The problem could be if you are outside the return period and you try to show a problem the genius can't see (like in many picture in this thread). Usually Apple Store are quite condescending regarding subtle defects, especially if you are on your first return, and they could give you a refurbished anyway.

 

[sonicblue83]

I swaped an iPad for screen tint once. The geniuses have to type in their device what kind of defect the iPad has and "screen tint" is one of the options to choose. So Apple knows about screen issues and accepts it as an defective unit. But of course the experience can be different depending on the actual genius you talk to.

 

[michael31986]

I think anyone who has a very discolored screen should return it, but if it sonly slightly or you have to go looking for defects like i did than its fine. Everything you buy has defects.