Airplane mode + control centre + lock screen = idiotic

matttye

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I was just playing about with my phone and I realised that airplane mode is accessible in control centre when your phone is locked. I have now turned off control centre due to this ridiculousness.

Why why why would Apple allow this? It about renders find my iPhone completely useless if your phone falls into the wrong hands.
 

geoffm33

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Right. Another thing that shouldn't be allowed without entering a passcode.
I agree with that.

But since it's possible to render Find My iPhone useless by being able to turn off a locked phone, there is no reason to disable control center from the lock screen.
 

matttye

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I agree with that.



But since it's possible to render Find My iPhone useless by being able to turn off a locked phone, there is no reason to disable control center from the lock screen.

I take your point!

I didn't realise you could turn off the phone when it was locked until you said it.
 

I7guy

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Right but disabling control center on lock mode stops people from playing around with your phone in a safe manner. By disabling it, they have to turn it on to do anything, which means it can be tracked, except if the sim is removed I guess.
 

DarkJaye

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Even if you can't turn off the phone without a passcode, you could still force restart it by holding down home + power. The fact is there needs to be a way to reset the device for troubleshooting and problems outside of software.

As long as that exists, it will always be trivial to turn off the device or disable it if you have it in your possession.
 

matttye

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Even if you can't turn off the phone without a passcode, you could still force restart it by holding down home + power. The fact is there needs to be a way to reset the device for troubleshooting and problems outside of software.



As long as that exists, it will always be trivial to turn off the device or disable it if you have it in your possession.

The obvious solution to that would be to make it so home+power can only restart the phone, not simply shut it down.
 

Maetzle

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No it's not. When the phone is turned on it can be found using find my iPhone, when it's turned off it can't.
But when you restart the phone you have to enter you SIM code again. So sim code -> no cellular -> no phone tracking.

Or am I missing something?
 

njchris

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You can still take out the SIM card.
Is find my phone related to the SIM? I didn't think so. I thought it was attached to that device until you turn it off (by entering your password) in the settings? That's why if you don't disable it when giving it to someone else they can't fully set the device up as new and use find my phone.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something.... which happens. :)
 

matttye

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Is find my phone related to the SIM? I didn't think so. I thought it was attached to that device until you turn it off (by entering your password) in the settings? That's why if you don't disable it when giving it to someone else they can't fully set the device up as new and use find my phone.



Unless I'm misunderstanding something.... which happens. :)

Pretty sure they just mean that you wouldn't be able to locate the phone using find my iPhone if there's no SIM card in because it wouldn't have a connection.
 

Jman13

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The truth is that iPhones are becoming less valuable to steal, because the whole activation lock thing really prevents most anyone from using your phone to be resold. If your phone is locked, it removes the ability for them to access any important data for theft as well, so iPhone theft has gone down as criminals realize that they're stealing bricks rather than useful things to resell.
 

C DM

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I was just playing about with my phone and I realised that airplane mode is accessible in control centre when your phone is locked. I have now turned off control centre due to this ridiculousness.

Why why why would Apple allow this? It about renders find my iPhone completely useless if your phone falls into the wrong hands.
Something that was there back in iOS 7 and similarly discussed in its early days about a year ago. It's how it is and the way to deal with it, if needed/wanted, is to disable Control Center from the lock screen.

It would be nice that if for at least Airplane mode it would ask for TouchID/passcode before enabling, similar to how it would if you asked Siri to do it from the lock screen, but for whatever reason it's not set up like that with Control Center (even though it is with Siri).
 

Donoban

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I was just playing about with my phone and I realised that airplane mode is accessible in control centre when your phone is locked. I have now turned off control centre due to this ridiculousness.

Why why why would Apple allow this? It about renders find my iPhone completely useless if your phone falls into the wrong hands.

You're out of control mattye.
 

LordQ

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Completely agree on turning off the phone requiring your passcode or another passcode. That should be at least an option!
 
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