AirPlay Opens Door to Almost Any Web Video on Apple TV

Biz Models and Licensing: DirecTV vs Sirius vs Apple vs Comcast vs ...

I have DirecTV and pay a good $100/month.

My DirecTV package includes Siris music channels.

I don't listen to music when I "watch" tv.

My Mitsubishi Outlander has Sirius built-in.

However, Sirius wants me to pay $10 or more per month to listen to music in my car -- a place where I do in fact like to listen to music.

So, ... will Apple or anyone else for that matter break-up this distribution and business model? Why should I ... or of course anyone else for that matter ... be expected to pay twice for the same thing? Yes, I'm paying for Sirius to play on my tv -- which I don't use -- but would like to have it in my car, but they insist I pay for it.
 
addicted44 said:
Completely agree with you. The technology that enables it required too much effort to not be intentional.

The major issue, however, is that I see this being blocked by the time it is released because of licensing issues.
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It doubt it will even be possible to block it unless they plan on blocking Safari altogether, removing all their iOS apps, and making every partner that puts content on the web or iOS do the same. The Airplay feature is just built into the iOS Quicktime video player that pretty much all the apps already use. There isn't even anything the app developers have to do to "enable" it. That's the beauty of the implementation.

I'm not a lawyer but from my understanding streaming from your own local device to another of your own local devices has always been allowed and legal as far as content rights go. That's how DLNA does it. Airplay is just Apple's own implementation of something like DLNA.

To sum it up, Apple is basically allowing you to run your own server off of your handheld mobile devices to stream content just like people have been doing for quite a while with desktops and laptops (but far less elegantly or practical of course). This is a huge feature for any iOS device. This is EPIC!
 
Has anyone heard of AirPlay from DVD Player?

We have heard about it from other apple software, but not the standard DVD player. If that was available, you could use the DVD player on any mac in the house to play to your AppleTV. One less set of cables to attach to the TV.
 
dmm219 said:
wow...people are getting WAY ahead of themselves here. Apple has ONLY shown being able to play iTunes bought material through airplay. Considering that they STILL only allow iTunes material to be streamed to ATV (v1), I think everyone is going to be GREATLY disappointed when they learn that AirPlay only works with Apple iTunes video.

There is absolutely NO evidence to believe otherwise at this point...
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I think that CAPITALS used too OFTEN sometimes MAKE me feel like I'M riding a ROLLYCOASTER.
 
ouimetnick said:
Did Apple intentionally do this? they may not have realized what AirPlay is capable of doing.
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You have to be kidding, right?

I have to shake my head at the knee-jerk nay-sayers who deemed themselves to be such visionaries in attacking ATV2 as an immediate 'fail'.
To think that a multi-billion $$ corporation headed by the leading visionary of our time is just flailing about is simply comical.
It reminds me of the arm-chair geniuses who insist that Apple only implemented the iOS APIs and AppStore because of pressure from the blogosphere.

Of course they know exactly what they're doing as they skate to that puck 5 years down the ice.
 
BJMRamage said:
When I first heard something like this a while back with just Apple TV I thought...ehhhh, nothing great do you shake the whole TV??

But reading your comment and using the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch as a remote (WiiMote) I can TOTALLY see this as Apple's step into the Video Game console!!

This would totally kick other consoles in the butt allowing you to essentially play any games you have anywhere on the go and at home.


Apple as a Media center....not a particular device but all of them.
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Do you remember those patents where iDevice screen could emulate like a texturefor buttons (or something like that:p)? I can imagine myself one day playing videogames on the apple tv while using an iPod as a controller :rolleyes:
 
mchaston said:
We have heard about it from other apple software, but not the standard DVD player. If that was available, you could use the DVD player on any mac in the house to play to your AppleTV. One less set of cables to attach to the TV.
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Probably not. The obvious way this is implemented is that instead of the standard iOS video player component decoding the H.264 packets directly (with the onboard hardware), it sends them over the local network to the AppleTV. But DVD is MPEG-2, not H.264, and would require on-the-fly transcoding. For the same reason, other video like a game would not work, since it would have to encode live, or transmit the actual framebuffers live, which is too much work or too much data.
 
Well, i've sworn to keep hold of my original ATV and not upgrade until i see some sign of something more from the new device.... If AirPlay really will stream anything played via the normal video out API's, then i may just make that jump to ATV v2 a bit earlier than i thought....
 
Streaming Keynote from iPad

Another interesting scenario for AirPlay and atv: streaming a Keynote show from an iPad to an ATV with a video projector plugged into it. Eventually have projectors with AirPlay built in, just like the printers HP is working on.
 
Tymmz said:
I wonder if Airvideo will be able to stream to the new apple tv.
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Since AirVideo use The standard iOS vidéo player I am pretty sûre thaï IT Will AirPlay jus fine. I am looking forward to try IT The minute I get The AppleTV v2. I might actually subscribe as a developer to get early aces to the new os.
 
I hope airplay is similar to airtunes in that you can play to multiple sources. I have need of that. I do it currently with the audio and video would be awesome.
 
hazmatzak said:
Probably not. The obvious way this is implemented is that instead of the standard iOS video player component decoding the H.264 packets directly (with the onboard hardware), it sends them over the local network to the AppleTV. But DVD is MPEG-2, not H.264, and would require on-the-fly transcoding. For the same reason, other video like a game would not work, since it would have to encode live, or transmit the actual framebuffers live, which is too much work or too much data.
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I was thinking that DVD player (i.e. the OS X application, not the hardware) would transcode from MPEG-2 to whatever AirPlay needs (H.264?). Then AppleTV just consumes the AirPlay stream like it would from any other device.
 
This thing just keeps getting better. If I can save up enough and all this is true, I would really consider buying one.
 
BJMRamage said:
When I first heard something like this a while back with just Apple TV I thought...ehhhh, nothing great do you shake the whole TV??

But reading your comment and using the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch as a remote (WiiMote) I can TOTALLY see this as Apple's step into the Video Game console!!

This would totally kick other consoles in the butt allowing you to essentially play any games you have anywhere on the go and at home.


Apple as a Media center....not a particular device but all of them.
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A PSP/PS3 combo will do the same thing - it's called remote play, it's been around since the PS3's launch pretty much.
 
mchaston said:
We have heard about it from other apple software, but not the standard DVD player. If that was available, you could use the DVD player on any mac in the house to play to your AppleTV. One less set of cables to attach to the TV.
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hazmatzak said:
Probably not. The obvious way this is implemented is that instead of the standard iOS video player component decoding the H.264 packets directly (with the onboard hardware), it sends them over the local network to the AppleTV. But DVD is MPEG-2, not H.264, and would require on-the-fly transcoding. For the same reason, other video like a game would not work, since it would have to encode live, or transmit the actual framebuffers live, which is too much work or too much data.
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mchaston said:
I was thinking that DVD player (i.e. the OS X application, not the hardware) would transcode from MPEG-2 to whatever AirPlay needs (H.264?). Then AppleTV just consumes the AirPlay stream like it would from any other device.
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Why bother? HandBrake that sucker. Haven't we learned our lesson about getting away from handling physical media by now?
 
Daily Show on iPad?

The original story mentions streaming Comedy Central shows from your iPad. But, from what I've seen, its not possible to play CC content on the iPad (Flash only). Am I missing something?
 
The idea of ditching cable altogether would come one step closer if Mr. Jobs would allow apps on the AppleTV. I'm thinking Hulu + Netflix + iTunes = No Cable.
 
jaykk said:
I hope the makers of car head units get on board with AirPlay, that will rock .
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I hope that the automakers stop supporting proprietary connectors and protocols, and adopt an open standard for connectors and protocols.


BTW said:
The idea of ditching cable altogether would come one step closer if Mr. Jobs would allow apps on the AppleTV. I'm thinking Hulu + Netflix + iTunes = No Cable.
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Again, why not open standards? Why not any HTML5 video? (once HTML5 is a reality) Why not any AVC video? Why not any VC-1 video? Why not any MPEG-1 video? Why not any MPEG-2 video?

Why not Flash? [ducks :p]
 
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