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His video is the only review I've seen on them. Definitely wasn't great. With the rumor of AirPod Pro 4 being next year with a bigger update, I was planning on waiting anyway.
The APPs do not strike me as an every year update device from Apple. IIRC, the 2's came out in 2022. You might be waiting awhile.
 
Sound awful now....
... same crap sound.

Comments such as this would be better phrased "I think they sound awful now" and "I think the sound is still crap just like it always has been."

Seriously, I am not trying to be mean, but as someone who is trying to decide whether to upgrade, I find comments that state opinions as facts irritating. Your comments are just your subjective opinions and, therefore, are of little or no value, without some other context. If, for example, I knew who you were and I had received other recommendations from you that had turned out to be correct, then I would value your comments -- because I would have additional context. Or maybe if you provided some other information such as to you "the already limited bass response doesn't seem as wide in the newer product" then I would have additional context that would make your comment of value. As it is you just come across as another irrational Apple hater.

As for the article itself, being a comparison of the features of two different products, it would be nice if it explained that not all of the features of the new product are available in all regions. For example, live translation is apparently not now available in countries under the jurisdiction of the European Union and there is no currently planned release date. That might be useful information to provide.
 
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The APPs do not strike me as an every year update device from Apple. IIRC, the 2's came out in 2022. You might be waiting awhile.
Maybe. There were rumors not long before the AirPod Pro 3 released that the 4's are on the way next year with a larger update than the 2 to the 3 was. If not, I can hold off still. Or may buy some Sony's for at home and keep my AirPod Pro 2's at work.
 
Maybe. There were rumors not long before the AirPod Pro 3 released that the 4's are on the way next year with a larger update than the 2 to the 3 was. If not, I can hold off still. Or may buy some Sony's for at home and keep my AirPod Pro 2's at work.

To be fair, there are rumors about lots of things, and this is a rumor site, so..

Don't put faith in rumours, especially rumors about a future iteration of a product where the current version of the product announced less than two weeks ago, and only went on sale a few days ago.

I know a lot of people who were waiting a LONG time for a new Airpods Max, and we all know what happened when a new version of was released.
 
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The standard AirPods are now very similar to the AirPods Pro
I had the standard AirPod 2s and have not tried the 4s. Maybe the 4s are fantastic but the fit on the 2s in my ears were absolutely awful. They stayed in my ears okay but I constantly had to twist them away from their natural resting position to hear anything. It was like they wanted to project into the sides of my ear canal instead of towards my eardrum. They also didn't get particularly loud, so they were completely unusable in all but quiet environments. I live in NYC and on a subway (and not even a particularly loud or screechy one) they were completely drowned out almost all of the time.

I tried my wife's AirPods Pro 2 last year and was blown away by the difference. The regular ones, to me, were very very VERY bad, and the Pros were fantastic. Perhaps the 4s, especially with ANC, have closed the gap somewhat but if they're now literally five times better than the 2s, that's still nowhere near enough improvement for me to consider them, especially since I got the Pros from Amazon on Black Friday for $153.99.
 
I have APP2 and can never get them to sit in my ears well enough to take advantage of ANC. They do stay in my ears, even when running. If I smile a lot while wearing them though, they will start to fall out. I had 1st gen AP and could never really get them to stay in my ears. That's what makes me hesitant to try and save a little cash and go with AP4 with or without ANC. May have to suck it up and get APP3 and hope they fit better than APP2 and I can take advantage of ANC.

Is there a way to check on battery health in AP? That could also factor into any decision I make. Thanks.
 
Not sure what that "lossless audio with vision pro" means. Any speaker or headphone is not lossless. What they do is take the electrical signal and turn it back into sound waves the ear can hear. The lossless audio is the digital file that is covered into an electrical signal a speaker can use. Typically that conversion happens when the decoding happens upstream by the software. This is akin to saying my car speakers are lossless because I'm playing a track from TIDAL that is lossless. That is incorrect. My TIDAL app on my phone is converting the lossless signal back into an electrical signal that my speakers can use to make sound, just like any other source.

Perahps Apple is limiting the ability of the airpod pro 3 to vision pro? That does not make sense because I'm sure the airpod pro 3 will be able to play my losses streams from TIDAL. This is misleading at best.

Of course they will play your lossless files. What apple means (and should have been clear), is that it will retain the lossless quality that you normally lose in a traditional bluetooth connection.

I have beats studio pro. If I connect via Bluetooth, Apple Music will still send me a lossless stream, however it gets compressed and mangled on its way to my wireless headphones.
However if I connect via USB-C to my phone, it still sends that same lossless stream, however this time no grade of quality is lost.
 
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I actually considered getting the AirPods 4 with ANC but my concerns about the earbuds falling out and the really short battery life with ANC active made decide not to get them. Now, I'm just waiting for the first big sale before getting the AirPods Pro 3 instead.
 
Got some APP3, and liking them so far. On my ears they stick out more than my old APP1 - that's something to get used to. ANC seems better but not by "4x". What does that even mean? It seems like the chip got faster, so they are better at filtering out low frequencies, but it still depends - in some environments the difference between no ANC and activated is big, in some quite small.
 
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I'm a bit confused by this story.

Apple last year introduced a major update for its standard AirPods, with the earbuds gaining a... 5GHz connectivity,

But then under those very AirPods in the table specifically lists AirPods 4 as only 2.4Ghz and the Pro as both 2.4Ghz and 5GHz...

2.4GHz connectivity

Doesn't matter to me, just doesn't make sense.
 
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