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AirPod virus-free? (Corona). Transmission by micro airdroplets. Could touch transmit? Could a 1 nanometer virus size bypass garment barrier and live indefinitely on or inside a non-organic surface, then transfer through moisture of ear? Not expecting any answers.
Viruses live for only a matter of hours on hard surfaces outside the body, but no more than one day, and are of no danger after that time period.
 
My brother and I manufacture scientific toys in China, albeit on a microscopic scale compared to Apple's AirPod volume... but our factory is 1500km away from Wuhan, and has been shuttered for 2 weeks - the local post offices are closed there. By all accounts, it's far worse on the ground than what we're getting from the media.

I doubt you and your brother manufacture anything in China, because if you did, you would have known that Chinese factories shut down for two weeks for the lunar new year, EVERY Year. This year, the government has extended the holiday by a week – to Feb. 7 – due to the outbreak.
 
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Probably they were already on stock.

Would you mind giving more information regarding how confortable they are? Everybody agrees they sound great, but I have used other gummy earpods in the past and they are very unconfortable to use.
So my opinion on comfort is that they feel better than the original airpods and I don't worry about fit.

That being said I also have issues usually with gummy earpods and these are no exception. I had a bit of a headache on the flight home and having things in my ears didn't help. Ended up taking them out and sleeping. When I use them around the house or taking calls they don't normally bother me unless I wear them for a couple hours.
 
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Are their developers also Chinese or why does it take them so long to fix the broken ANC on my 280€ headphones

Yes, given that Luxshare-ICT co-developed the AirPods with Apple. Not to mention there are a whole bunch of acoustic hardware engineers at Apple's Shanghai R&D site.
 
I know that some of the pre-coronavirus sites I read talked about CNY putting factories out of commission for 2-3 weeks, and my order for Airpods Pro on Jan 25 was showing a 1 month lead time. I think we'll probably start seeing how serious things are over the next couple weeks as we see orders get delayed (or not). Especially since we don't know if people are returning to work from the holidays, or staying put so that things don't spread. The stuff I'm hearing from someone in HK is that there's a pretty big disruption and people are scared, and it's definitely not business as usual.
 
AirPod virus-free? (Corona). Transmission by micro airdroplets. Could touch transmit? Could a 1 nanometer virus size bypass garment barrier and live indefinitely on or inside a non-organic surface, then transfer through moisture of ear? Not expecting any answers.
No. If it's anything like other coronaviruses, it will be very short-lived on any surface. Primary mode of infection would be inhaling respiratory droplets.
 
Yeah, I somehow feel like this is the least of our worries with this virus. Some of the social media posts leaking from China are horrifying. Even if the rest of the world can isolate themselves from China (good luck), the worldwide economic impacts are going to be crazy, and the human toll within China is going to be vast. So goes the ancient Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times." Nobody wants China on the brink of anything.
 
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My brother and I manufacture scientific toys in China, albeit on a microscopic scale compared to Apple's AirPod volume... but our factory is 1500km away from Wuhan, and has been shuttered for 2 weeks - the local post offices are closed there. By all accounts, it's far worse on the ground than what we're getting from the media.
You aren’t Apple, as you said. They have contingency plans. My friend lives in China and said they have already made alternative arrangements and created ad-hoc production lines with masks and signing waivers to work.

Hon Hai can’t afford to NOT make stuff.
 
I'm starting to wonder how legit some of these stories are. They keep coming out, wave after wave, each one often causing AAPL stock to go down, then the stock goes back up shortly after.

It just smells like market manipulation to me. We don't really know what's going on over there, and these stories might be being timed to move stocks for conveniently timed buys and sells.

Okay Alex Jones......
 
That's not well said at all imo. It's binary thinking. It's entirely possible to care about more than one thing. It's entirely possible to care about, and be aware of more than one aspect of the same thing. The coronavirus affects more than just individual lives. It also affects different aspects of how we live. Acknowledging one aspect does not diminish others.

I never said that it does diminish others. I was merely paying a compliment. It’s amazing how when one pays a compliment to someone’s observation, others like to seemingly be critical or negative of it. Thanks for that. :/
 
I never said that it does diminish others. I was merely paying a compliment. It’s amazing how when one pays a compliment to someone’s observation, others like to seemingly be critical or negative of it. Thanks for that. :/
Your welcome. I was merely disagreeing with the compliment you paid. That comment was neither well said nor was in proper perspective. It implied that to think about headphones puts more importance on the products vs thinking about lives. That implication is silly. It certainly isn't the voice of common sense.
 
Yes, Macrumors, We get it, this virus is impacting manufacturing levels in China. And I do think it’s a very _serious_ illness, but we don’t need an article every day that talks about this virus and how it’s affecting possible future iPhone manufacturing/AirPods, etc.
 
Would you mind giving more information regarding how confortable they are? Everybody agrees they sound great, but I have used other gummy earpods in the past and they are very unconfortable to use.
The are very comfortable for me. Uses them mainly when working out and so far I have not done anything where I feel they might fall out. Long time listening 3+ hours has also been no problem in terms of comfortability.
 
People are dying and here we worry about the inconvenience of waiting extended periods for AirPods.
So? Doesn't mean anyone wants AirPods at the cost of human life.
(idgaf about airpods myself)
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I'm starting to wonder how legit some of these stories are. They keep coming out, wave after wave, each one often causing AAPL stock to go down, then the stock goes back up shortly after.

It just smells like market manipulation to me. We don't really know what's going on over there, and these stories might be being timed to move stocks for conveniently timed buys and sells.
I don't think so, but it's a little suspicious. Not as much as a few of Trump's tweets.
 
Are you saying the government in China can’t be trusted to accurately report when there’s bad news? I’m shocked.
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Speak for yourself. We’re worried about how many people are sick and how lethal this Coronavirus is compared to the seasonal flu.
Really? I mean apparently more people died of a simple flue in the same timeframe in the US alone.

2 weeks of corona virus worldwide 560 (circa) death
2 weeks of flue in the US alone 1386 (circa)...


2017-2018 death in US alone was about 61,000 or an average of 166 death a day... and again, we are speaking US alone!

2018-2019 death in US alone was about 34,157 or an average of 93 death a day.


Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year: Study. Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.
That means an average of 1092 death a day wordlwide.


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I am not saying it is not bad, but the "how lethal it is" is a media build-up, as right now, a simple flue is deadlier than the corona virus, it's just the media going hipe on things.

That said, respect for Cina and all people that are touched by this terrible thing!
 
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Really? I mean apparently more people died of a simple flue in the same timeframe in the US alone.

2 weeks of corona virus worldwide 560 (circa) death
2 weeks of flue in the US alone 1386 (circa)...


2017-2018 death in US alone was about 61,000 or an average of 166 death a day... and again, we are speaking US alone!

2018-2019 death in US alone was about 34,157 or an average of 93 death a day.
Here’s what you don’t understand: this corona virus is much more lethal than the seasonal flu. A typical flu kills 1 in 1,000 (0.1%) who contract it. This strain of the Corona virus is killing 1 in 50 (2%). See the difference? It is also more contagious.

If the same number of Americans who contracted the flu in 2017/2018 had instead contracted this Coronavirus, 1.2 million would have died instead of 60,000.

That’s why it’s so important to contain this virus.


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Edit: This has nothing to do with media hype. The latest numbers from China are that the total number of deaths are at least 636, with the total number of confirmed cases at 31,161. That’s 2%.
 
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Are you saying the government in China can’t be trusted to accurately report when there’s bad news? I’m shocked.

The Chinese Tencent service may have intentionally leaked the real scope of the outbreak briefly and the numbers are far worse than were being released with a fatality rate exceeding 10% and possibly even exceeding 15%.


If those "leaked" numbers are correct, it'd very interesting that the fatality rate outside of China hasn't been higher, but it's still early.

Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year: Study. Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.

Yeah, Flu is awful and it's a bad flu year. The difference is that we know how to deal with flu. We're not even sure exactly how contagious this new virus is. The best course of action is to do too much instead of too little.

The good news is that the things you do to avoid catching the flu are probably also useful to avoid getting Corona virus so whether you believe in the Corona Virus or not, just take extra precautions to avoid getting a cold and the flu. Don't do it for yourself. Do it for people who you might transmit the flu, cold, (or Corona virus) to. One fewer sick person is one fewer disease vector spreading the pain.

Wash your hands with soap often (and wash thoroughly... don't just splash water and touch the soap), cover your cough, and stay home if you're sick or even think you might be sick. There's not much else you can do anyway.
 
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And thats why I'm not going to spend more than 120€ on any earbuds.

I bought my AirPods with a good deal but the Pro are still too expensive and I'd buy them at their current price only if I was sure to keep them for at least 5 years. I don't think battery life would be good after 3 years though. I wish there was a way to install a new battery at a reasonable price, or at least they could offer a discount when you bring your old AirPorts back and buy a new pair, just like they do with iPhones.
 
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Here’s what you don’t understand: this corona virus is much more lethal than the seasonal flu. A typical flu kills 1 in 1,000 (0.1%) who contract it. This strain of the Corona virus is killing 1 in 50 (2%). See the difference? It is also more contagious.

If the same number of Americans who contracted the flu in 2017/2018 had contracted this Coronavirus, 1.2 million would have died instead of 60,000.

That’s why it’s so important to contain this virus.



This has nothing to do with media hype

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Edit: This has nothing to do with media hype
Coronavirus in number is 31,524 cases and 638 death which means 0.02

If you believe the other estimate is 154,023 cases and 24,589 death which means 0.15 (pretty much as the flu).


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yes as pointed out missed one step it's 2% not 0.02
 
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This has nothing to do with media hype.

Indeed. Let's just throw out all of the reported statistics and most of the news to date for a moment.

Does anyone really think that the Chinese government is going to react this way if it's just an outbreak of the sniffles? Ignore what they say. Focus on what they're doing.

Coronavirus in number is 31,524 cases and 638 death which means 0.02%

If you believe the other estimate is 154,023 cases and 24,589 death which means 0.15 (pretty much as the flu)
Do you honestly believe that the Chinese government would be running around in full panic mode over something that is killing few people?

These numbers may be more accurate:

UPDATE: Those "leaked" numbers weren't a leak. It was a hoax. Sorry for posting that.
 
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Corona virus in number is 31,524 cases and 638 death wich means 0.02%

If you believe the other estimate is 154,023 cases and 24,589 death which means 0.15 (pretty much as a flu)
Re-check your math. 638 out of 31,524 is 2.02%.

24,589 out of 154,023 is 15.96%—almost 1 in 6. That’s devastating.
 
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