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Here’s what you don’t understand: this corona virus is much more lethal than the seasonal flu. A typical flu kills 1 in 1,000 (0.1%) who contract it. This strain of the Corona virus is killing 1 in 50 (2%). See the difference? It is also more contagious.

If the same number of Americans who contracted the flu in 2017/2018 had instead contracted this Coronavirus, 1.2 million would have died instead of 60,000.

That’s why it’s so important to contain this virus.


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Edit: This has nothing to do with media hype. The latest numbers from China are the total number of deaths are at least 636, with the total number of confirmed cases at 31,161. That’s 2%.

It's a good thing the WHO has declared a global emergency. With all the travel restrictions and quarantines in place, this outbreak should claim far fewer lives than the common flu. The downside is that vaccines won't be available until the summer at the earliest. Also troubling is that according to a paper published in Lancet and contrary to official reports, the origin of the virus remains a mystery because the earliest cases had no contact with the local wet market. Moreover, the novel virus isn't just lethal to those who are old, have pre-existing medical conditions, or have compromised immune systems – as officials claim, but rather, it kills young healthy adults as well, although admittedly the study's sample size is small. Things could be as bad the media portrays, or worse, or better. We'll never know, but I sure don't trust the media.
 
Re-check your math. 638 out of 31,524 is 2.02%.

24,589 out of 154,023 is 15.96%—almost 1 in 6. That’s devastating.
Yes forgot one step (man enough to admit when I make a mistake), still, a 2% is not as bad as the media want it to be, and the 24589 deaths are pure speculation so the 15% ratio is still not proven (that would make it worse and in line with media but who knows).

Again I am not saying is not bad (and respect for people who are touched by this disease)
but still, media hype at it's best.

But we are changing the subject, better save this discussion in another thread.
 
Are the pros really hard to obtain? I ordered them right away.

I used my pros for the first time traveling this week. I was very impressed.

I had to check the website a few days to see when my apple store had them in stock. And order them before 12 for store pick up. They often were sold out by the afternoon.
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Coronavirus in number is 31,524 cases and 638 death which means 0.02

If you believe the other estimate is 154,023 cases and 24,589 death which means 0.15 (pretty much as the flu).


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yes as pointed out missed one step it's 2% not 0.02

You can't go by 2%, because you don't know the end result of the 31,524. After a week you're normally done with the flu. Plus you have flu shots and treatment that relieve it. People are dying from the coronavirus weeks after getting it.
 
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Really? I mean apparently more people died of a simple flue in the same timeframe in the US alone.

2 weeks of corona virus worldwide 560 (circa) death
2 weeks of flue in the US alone 1386 (circa)...


2017-2018 death in US alone was about 61,000 or an average of 166 death a day... and again, we are speaking US alone!

2018-2019 death in US alone was about 34,157 or an average of 93 death a day.


Flu Kills 646,000 People Worldwide Each Year: Study. Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year.
That means an average of 1092 death a day wordlwide.


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I am not saying it is not bad, but the "how lethal it is" is a media build-up, as right now, a simple flue is deadlier than the corona virus, it's just the media going hipe on things.

That said, respect for Cina and all people that are touched by this terrible thing!
Simple flu isn't deadlier if its death rate is lower. Corona virus isn't spreading like the flu only because of the quarantining efforts. If everyone treated it like the flu, it'd be a disaster.

Also, given the reputation, expect the Chinese media to underreport everything bad. I fear for the people there.
 
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Also, given the reputation, expect the Chinese media to underreport everything bad. I fear for the people there.

I think we need to pay attention to statistics coming out of neighboring countries to get a better idea of whether we're gaining control or sliding toward a global pandemic. I read an interesting observation from someone who was crunching the Chinese government's statistics on infection and death rates and the death rate was impressively consistent from day to day. It was a nice and tidy 2.1% before going up to 3.1% for a few days and dropping back down to 2.1%.

Those numbers are obviously being fudged, but as to whether they're being fudged out of ill intent or just the inability to deal with the situation, we can't know for sure.
 
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I don't have any and don't plan to, as I suggested in the part of my comment you cut out. No need to be aloof.
Classic..... your reply made me chuckle. 😂

Aloof: Meaning not friendly or forthcoming; cool and distant.

My simple comment was about the importance of AirPod delays over life which you then quoted. And what was the first work you typed..... I'll remind you?


So, who's being aloof? 🤔
 
Viruses live for only a matter of hours on hard surfaces outside the body, but no more than one day, and are of no danger after that time period.
Hep C can survive for around 3 weeks outside the body. That’s the scary virus.
 
A few days I posted a link to some reportedly "leaked" numbers from China that showed a death rate much much higher than the official numbers reported out of China. That was a hoax. Sorry for posting that.

The numbers out of China are suspect, but as far as the death count goes, they're not believed to be that massively skewed. They still show a much higher fatality rate than the rest of the world. A SARS researcher and professor at the University of Hong Kong, John Nicholls, had a possible explanation for why China's numbers are so unusual. He thinks the reported deaths are mostly honest, but the infection count is being seriously underreported, which results in mostly just the people who are at risk of complications being counted.

Everywhere else some of the people being counted as infected are barely symptomatic and not really at any realistic risk of dying.
 
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