Now, does Android work on just ONE phone already or does it work on myriad different phones? See the difference between Android and iOS now?Google is designated a gatekeeper for Android and still provides the analogous feature.
Now, does Android work on just ONE phone already or does it work on myriad different phones? See the difference between Android and iOS now?Google is designated a gatekeeper for Android and still provides the analogous feature.
That’s absolutely not a requirement in the EU. Note that many Apple features like predictive text are only available for a few of the EU languages.Maybe it is because not all the languages of the EU are supported such as Dutch, Romanian, Hungarian etc. I could see the EU blocking until all EU languages are supported
That’s not a requirement of the DMA or DSA. You are grasping for straws.Now, does Android work on just ONE phone already or does it work on myriad different phones? See the difference between Android and iOS now?
its Apple blocking features, not EU. EU does not care whether feature is complete or not, just whether its compliant or not. oh, and they dont block, they fine.Maybe it is because not all the languages of the EU are supported such as Dutch, Romanian, Hungarian etc. I could see the EU blocking until all EU languages are supported
Let people decide whether they want it or not.If all the translation isn’t done on device, and or some amount of audio is uploaded to the cloud or used to refine the analysis of the users voicePRINT etc., that would be a GDPR no no.
Ok good to knowThat’s absolutely not a requirement in the EU. Note that many Apple features like predictive text are only available for a few of the EU language
Based on what? What regulations state that?Maybe it is because not all the languages of the EU are supported such as Dutch, Romanian, Hungarian etc. I could see the EU blocking until all EU languages are supported
Every country abuses in one way or another.I’m glad the UK left the EU. Stuff like this is quite scary to see how the EU is abusing its power.
Here’s the upside, if so many folks in the EU hate Apple such that Apple sales tank in the EU, then that could eventually drop iPhones from being designated as gatekeepers. Then they drop the EU specific App Stores, the EU specific dev rules, everything.Childish Apple. These kinds of tactics only make people hate Apple.
Well they aren’t releasing this in the EU. They are looking at the regulations before they do.You don´t know why the feature isn´t available. I MIGHT be due to regulations and even then, it´s Apples part to look into a countries regulation BEFORE you plan to release a product.
The EU´s regulations are good!
Hmmm, you don't think Apple's manipulating you at all here? "Hey, we'd love to offer you this, but <sigh> those nasty EU bureaucrats... You really need to do something about them..."Great, thanks EU. The dictators in Brussels and their rules
Not likely. Apple had previously indicated this would happen due to the DMA. The DMA is still in place, Apple’s still a gatekeeper and it’s happening. So…So you say it has nothing to do with the GDPR and AI Act as written in the article?
I guess we just need to know then if “some amount of audio is uploaded to the cloud … to create an analysis or voicePRINT for the user”A quick search shows that Apple says live translation is done on the iPhone.
Each and every one of those officials was voted for or vetted by the representatives of parliament. You can complain about how tech companies decide to implement features (in ways that seemingly skirt the law) but these are not "dictators" and they didn't disallow a live translation feature (if its implementation can be shown compliant with the law).Great, thanks EU. The dictators in Brussels and their rules
Must be embarrassing to think Europe is a country. or know absolutely nothing about it.Europe is an embarrassing country. In the short future it will become the new third world.
The issue is almost certainly that because the translation is done on the phone, not the AirPods, and per the DMA Apple is required to allow access to that feature to any headphone manufacturer who asks for it. Under the DMA Apple is not allowed to differentiate with software features.I guess we just need to know then if “some amount of audio is uploaded to the cloud … to create an analysis or voicePRINT for the user”
the gatekeeper shall allow providers of services and providers of hardware, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same hardware and software features accessed or controlled via the operating system
We don't. That's dead now.Sure, that’s better: are you excited about giving your government full access to your data? (Genuine question)
This is not quite true. The vast majority of Europeans are very supportive of privacy and personal data protection laws. Even if the implementation like Cookie warnings is incredibly annoying.Once again, European citizens are prevented from having access to features due to restrictive and strict European laws that nobody ever asked for except the compulsive legislators of the European Union. If they only had the balls to restrict the right things...
Not quite, but getting thereEurope is not a country.
I understand that Apple needs more time to comply with the world’s most progressive privacy regulations, but I can’t help wondering how much time Apple is willing to waste. Many European customers who would have bought the AirPods Pro immediately are now holding back, meaning lost revenue for Apple. And Apple should care. After all, the European market is larger than the U.S. in terms of population.
PerhapsApple should work harder to ensure that new products meet EU requirements from the very start, assuming Apple is truly interested in our money. If they expect European customers to pay premium prices, we should at least be able to expect premium effort behind the scenes to make that possible.
I’m wondering if “the feature won’t be available” means it’s just not going to be available. Not “more time to comply” but instead that it doesn’t even work with all of Apple’s products (Only back to the iPhone 15) so having the AirPods Pro be interoperable and have the feature available with any random Android phone is simply a non-starter.won't be available if both the user is physically in the EU and their Apple Account region is in the EU.
I'm curious how it will handle machinegun spanishSo excited for this feature and being able to understand and converse easily with newish Spanish in-laws (and understand my partner lol). ChatGPT voice chat as a middle man is ok, but not totally fluid, Microsoft translate is good when you’ve run out of GPT voice credits, but sometimes you lose parts of the conversation, which can be frustrating. If Apple nails this it will be huge.
I never saw one of their names on a ballot paper. Ever.Each and every one of those officials was voted for or vetted by the representatives of parliament. You can complain about how tech companies decide to implement features (in ways that seemingly skirt the law) but these are not "dictators" and they didn't disallow a live translation feature (if its implementation can be shown compliant with the law).
Please explain how Google is offering the equivalent realtime translation feature in their Pixel Buds in the EU.