I don't think unregulated capitalism without checks and balances is automatically innovation and I'll use history as my guide on that one.
The problem is that the eu will only tell them if they're in violation afterwards. Lots has been written about this.
So Apple announced the product before it was ready to launch; before they had done checks with regulators.
A European Commission spokesperson stated that Apple’s decision was made unilaterally without consultation with the Commission. “We are not able to understand the nature of Apple’s concerns,” they said. “The DMA does not impede the launch of new products in EU markets. To the opposite, it preserves innovation and freedom of choice,” the spokesperson added.
for the people in the back:
we don't know that EU regulations are the actual reason, because Apple hasn't said so. This is purely MR speculation that you are taking as fact
It could also be privacy. There were questions before about whether making things interoperable to adhere to DMA would weaken the data privacy and thus put them in violation of GPDR. It is a catch 22.The article should be updated, per Politico, it is because of DMA interoperability requirements, not privacy.
This statement is most certainly not true. Apple uses a lot of proprietary tech on top of Bluetooth to make interactive (duplex) voice applications work with AirPods. Third party wireless headphones don't have access to these Bluetooth extensions and therefore can't really compete with Apple in this space. If you have ever tried the Hands Free Profile with third-party wireless headphones, you know what I'm talking about.There is literally nothing preventing Bose from developing a similar feature and putting it in their headphones and associated app.
It could also be privacy. There were questions before about whether making things interoperable to adhere to DMA would weaken the data privacy and thus put them in violation of GPDR. It is a catch 22.
The right thing for Apple to do would be to either allow competitors access to their proprietary Bluetooth extensions, or finally introduce Bluetooth LE Audio. The latter would probably be better for the consumers, because manufacturers would not have to deal with two different standards that are essentially doing the same thing.
Ah, expected.The article should be updated, per Politico, it is because of DMA interoperability requirements, not privacy.
China was going to launch the iPhone Air with Unicom. The government determined it wanted eSim working across ALL it’s carriers (they’re all State owned Enterprises), so it’s put a hold on the rollout in order for it’s other two carriers to get up to speed. Not surprising, really. China was the first region where the largest carriers all supported RCS at the carrier, not as a stop-gap Google solution. Going all-in on eSim just looks to be something else where they’ll beat the EU in major carrier support.And Apple did seemingly do something like that in China - announcing the iPhone Air with a release date that they’ve had to roll back because even in the massively important Chinese market, they apparently didn’t bother to check that carriers had eSIM support ready (according to MR).
They couldn’t have, they drove all of the successful ones out of the region.It’s clear the EU competition regulators have literally no idea how business works.
Differentiation is not an issue per se. It becomes problematic, when a company uses its dominance in one area to seriously hamper competition in a related market like headphones.Apple needs to differentiate their products from competitors, and proprietary extensions is one way to do that. Differentiation allows companies to get a premium over commodity pricing. Since Apple is a for profit company beholden to shareholders, differentiation is part of their market strategy.
This statement is most certainly not true. Apple uses a lot of proprietary tech on top of Bluetooth to make interactive (duplex) voice applications work with AirPods. Third party wireless headphones don't have access to these Bluetooth extensions and therefore can't really compete with Apple in this space. If you have ever tried the Hands Free Profile with third-party wireless headphones, you know what I'm talking about.
The Bluetooth group has introduced a new standard for the transmission of audio in 2020 to address most shortcomings of the old audio profiles called Bluetooth LE Audio (v5.2). For very strange reasons, Apple hasn't implemented this feature on iOS yet though. Could it be because they want to protect their AirPods market share?
The right thing for Apple to do would be to either allow competitors access to their proprietary Bluetooth extensions, or finally introduce Bluetooth LE Audio. The latter would probably be better for the consumers, because manufacturers would not have to deal with two different standards that are essentially doing the same thing.
Edit: Android has support for modern Bluetooth Audio since Android 13.
OK, so you do agree that competitors offering translation services and wireless headphones are at a disadvantage.What Apple has with AirPods is better audio quality, lower latency, and tighter integration, but that’s not a technical barrier preventing competitors from building translation features. It’s a user experience advantage that Apple earned by investing in proprietary improvements.
I think this is exactly what's going to happen. It would make sense though to allow Apple to keep the old, proprietary Bluetooth extensions in iOS. Otherwise, older AirPods would stop working, and I don't think anyone wants that to happen.Think about it from Apple’s perspective: they spent years and millions developing those Bluetooth improvements before LE Audio existed. Now you’re saying they should either hand that IP to competitors or throw it away to adopt a new standard?
They might have an advantage on iOS, but not one that prevents competitors from building competing products. Right now, for example, Google can advertise that their phones and EarBuds have the translation capabilities iPhones don’t. I imagine that might convince some customers to head over to Android.OK, so you do agree that competitors offering translation services and wireless headphones are at a disadvantage.
And if the EU had its way, AirPods’ Bluetooth communication wouldn’t exist to inspire the standard in the first place! Because Apple isn’t going to invest millions to develop new technologies if they’re immediately required to hand it over to competitors for free. You’re literally describing how Apple’s proprietary innovation became the foundation for an industry standard, which is exactly how technological progress is supposed to work.think this is exactly what's going to happen. It would make sense though to allow Apple to keep the old, proprietary Bluetooth extensions in iOS. Otherwise, older AirPods would stop working, and I don't think anyone wants that to happen.
By the way, what Apple uses is very similar to how Bluetooth LE Audio works. In fact, I read somewhere, that the new standard was heavily inspired by how AirPods communication works. Can't find the source for that though any more. They also use Bluetooth LE, just not in a standard conformant way.
Apple is not under any obligation to hand the keys to the kingdom to competitors so they can develop products with identical functionalities.Differentiation is not an issue per se. It becomes problematic, when a company uses its dominance in one area to seriously hamper competition in a related market like headphones.
This is not about the competition between Apple and Google. It's about companies that want to compete with Apple AND Google in the audio accessory or the translation app market. It would be terrible if only Apple and Google could build high-end headphones or translation apps because of anti-competitive technical barriers.They might have an advantage on iOS, but not one that prevents competitors from building competing products. Right now, for example, Google can advertise that their phones and EarBuds have the translation capabilities iPhones don’t. I imagine that might convince some customers to head over to Android.
Why do you think this is the only possible outcome? The Bluetooth SIG exists for exactly this purpose, to advance the technology for the benefit of the whole industry. In fact just this year Apple decided to increase their involvement in Bluetooth standardization significantly by becoming a voting member, most likely in anticipation of more regulatory pressure.But under the DMA’s logic, Apple should have been forced to share that tech immediately, which would have killed the incentive to develop it at all, and we’d all be stuck with the terrible Bluetooth experience that existed before AirPods did.
No one is asking for keys to the kingdom. Just adequate APIs for interoperability.Apple is not under any obligation to hand the keys to the kingdom to competitors so they can develop products with identical functionalities.