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AirPods Max Won't Directly Support Lossless Apple Music Over Lightning
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Most important thing, that means we will have spatial audio in Apple TV+ and movies in the macOS ??
Maybe because they are trying to avoid unauthorized wireless users? Apple Music runs on devices that Apple can manage authorization on the five software platforms. This is just to provide some degree of competition to say they offer lossless audio.
People complain about absolutely everything. Apple is raising the tide here, no one is going backwards, this is groundwork for the future (and the now for many). Still, people complain, and how. Never ceases to amaze me.
Yes, this is table stakes now, which is good for everyone. It's just a confusing rollout with no hardware story to back it up. Especially revealing previously unknown deficiencies in existing products.
It's the most predictable thing about this site. I'm very happy for the update but I'm using wired iems and headphones. Also it's unlike Apple to not charge extra so I'm grateful for that
Unbelievable!. Not even with lightning cable!!!. Apple prided itself as having a close relationship with music.
What an overpriced product with incomplete support!. So, the alternative to hear lossless with headphones is using another brand of headphones?. Will iPhone 13 be able to send lossless audio somehow (wire or wireless) to AirPods max?.
What is Apple “proposal” to hear lossless?. Using iPhone internal speakers?!, maybe iPhone 13 will bring back the 3.5mm port?. “Losslessgate”, anyone?.
What an overpriced product with incomplete support!. So, the alternative to hear lossless with headphones is using another brand of headphones?. Will iPhone 13 be able to send lossless audio somehow (wire or wireless) to AirPods max?.
What is Apple “proposal” to hear lossless?. Using iPhone internal speakers?!, maybe iPhone 13 will bring back the 3.5mm port?. “Losslessgate”, anyone?.
It seems most Apple “specialists” don’t know squat about the stuff they sell. I’ve overheard specialists giving out incorrect informations before when I was at the store checking out the iPhone 11 in 2019. I feel it’s rude to butt in and correct them though.
I think many members here know more about Apple products than the folks that sell them. When I bought a HomePod after it was discontinued, the specialist was stunned when I showed him how to decode a serial number and we say that a HomePod purchased a few months ago was made in early 2018.
"Bluetooth Audio.... the trashcan that keeps on giving!" - Zippo Marx
People need to calm down! Go listen to Tidal sample of lossless audio can you hear the difference? It probably won’t matter the you anymore.
I get making mistakes and we’re all happy to see course correction when it comes. In this case I’m more commenting on the timing. If a year or two had been between the items in my lists it would’ve seemed pretty normal. Then you could hope for a new remote with find my or new headphones with lossless support in the near future. With this timing it just makes it seem like these things weren’t even on their radar.
I do wonder if covid had anything to do with this.
I've never tried it no, its just the article said the DAC would have to support it digitally and I figure its like MQA where it transmits it to the DAC to decode.
OP made a very reasonable point that has sailed directly over your head apparently. It was very clear that the headphones didn't support it when they were purchased and if it was possible it would have been done. Whats your solution, to never release an upgraded music service because some of their old products can't support it?? The entitlement on display here is breathtaking.
I am going to be interested in what Alex Lindsay on MacBreak Weekly has to say about this debacle...
1. This marketing tragedy is going to get even bigger than the one with XDR display stand.
2. Please stop the nonsense that lossless is not even distinguishable on the ear! Steve Jobs himself was working with a senior sound engineer years ago on an entirely new lossless sound format (there is an interview with the guy) because he was complaining that iTunes users were only hearing 8 percent of what they could actually hear.
3. Spatial audio requires an additional processing, which I'm sure only a certain portion of mainstream artists will do. Lossless is everywhere. Literally all songs are originally in lossless copies.
2. Please stop the nonsense that lossless is not even distinguishable on the ear! Steve Jobs himself was working with a senior sound engineer years ago on an entirely new lossless sound format (there is an interview with the guy) because he was complaining that iTunes users were only hearing 8 percent of what they could actually hear.
3. Spatial audio requires an additional processing, which I'm sure only a certain portion of mainstream artists will do. Lossless is everywhere. Literally all songs are originally in lossless copies.
When you are as big as Apple and make as big a mess as this, you "shrug it off." You will survive...case in point, Facebook - how many breaches have they had until now? They just keep getting away with it, and so will Apple with this, and I believe, just like with the Butterfly keyboard and Trashcan Mac Pro, they will silently acknowledge the issue and release a new generation of hardware that "fixes" these shortcomings.
They won't let you, the average consumer, get the satisfaction of Apple apologizing for the shortcoming and making amends for it.
Apple’s $550 pair of high end headphones can’t play lossless over their own wired standard. Let that sink in for the lols.
You call the Max old? Jesus. Apologist much.
Replace “old” with “antecedent” and his point still holds. Product does the same thing it did yesterday. Unreasonable to expect it to add every new feature, especially ones that are nothing more than aural placebos.