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A repairability score for wireless earbuds? Seriously? And they have no idea why AirPods were delayed. But hey throw a theory out there and now every tech site will link to their teardown and it will be accepted as fact that this is why AirPods were delayed. Oh and throwing in words like "hot mess" and glue glue glue will for sure get more clicks.
It's fake news, that critics want to hear and sites want so they can publish it. Like trump blowing hot wind at his fans. He even at admits such at his rallies. Which surprisingly they cheer for. "Yaye, he just told us locking up Hillary doesn't matter anymore because he won the election!"
 
I guess it depends on your perspective. I'm Black. My wife is White. 50 years ago we were still a year away from our marriage actually being legal in the US. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand I just brought the mood of the room down.:( Apologies. Personally, I'd love to live 50 years into the future. By then we'll have robot helper monkeys and a new Mac Pro.:p:D Mood elevated.

From my perspective it was less than a few years ago before marriage equality existed and in many places it still doesn't exist. So please consider that in your perspectives.

However there are a bunch of donglesque solutions to that as a stop gap. The double proxy, same sex, Brazillian, marriage certificate for members of the armed forces for the win.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/08/15/proxy-weddings-may-hold-key-for-same-sex-couples.html

Way off topic but just putting things in perspective.
 
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if we encounter charging problem with the first batch we know it may be due to the "egg" charging case and its chip's solder joints issues. Something to be aware of. And Apple being Apple i'm sure they'll replace for free (which is why i'm a huge Apple fan).

You mean like how Apple took care of those folks with Antennae-gate by "replacing their phones" with "the same exact phone except there is a bumper on it?"

Give me a break. If Apple had exploding batteries like Samsung, they would find every excuse in the book to find it somewhat viable.
 
So we're just changing the topic now? Okay cool. Have you seen the new trailer for Injustice 2? It's killer. Even better, the trailer for the Last of Us 2 is absolutely gorgeous. Just yankin' your chain.;) But both trailers are great.

Again, my quote had nothing to do with iFixit's profits. It was about the repairability score.

The repairability score on almost every product in the past couple years has been nearly zero. It shouldn't be any surprise nor should you need iFixit to tear these things down to know that you're not going to be able to simply repair this stuff yourself.

This isn't just the case with Apple. It's with all electronics, vehicles, and almost everything technology related in the world at this point.
 
The glue makes these things impermeable to water and people bitch they can't take them apart? They should have an option for people that don't want the glue inside so they are easy to take apart. making them easy to disassemble and repair when they drop them in the toilet by accident.

The real news is they go through the wash and seem to be able to be submerged. I wouldn't submerge them but using them in the shower or at least the bath seems like it could be worth the risk.

MR really needs to cull the herd these days.
 
And who wants to hear componentry rattling around? For the volume of the airpod's internal cavity the best choice is an adhesive glue selected for its acoustic properties. iFixit seems to think that glue is some poorly planned, lazy choice - it's actually the best way to achieve this size design.

You're making a justification on aesthetics but don't see the bigger issue. These are $169 earbuds rendered un-repairable. That's what iFixit is pointing at big time. You can get Kinovo Headphones for dirt cheap that have amazing quality especially with bass and long battery life (I can listen to 48 hours straight of tune-in-radio without having to charge the headphones). Just no noise canceling.
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They are bordering on being irresponsible with their speculation, but I guess they provide clickbait to sites who repeat. iFixit has a clear bias because their whole business model is threatened by Apple creating products that aren't amenable to user repairs. Of course, much of their rating process is bordering on the absurd as though there are any serious numbers of people who purchase the Airpods who would contemplate disassembling and repairing them in any event.

Are you crazy? Wow! One sided much aren't you. iFixIt had given some Apple products great reviews between 7/10 - 9/10. Bias? They're the most objective tech teardown I believe in. Nothing is sugar coated with them and they have helped me repair several devices in the past.

You're just mad someone wrote something negative. That's all your post is saying.
 
You're making a justification on aesthetics but don't see the bigger issue. These are $169 earbuds rendered un-repairable. That's what iFixit is pointing at big time. You can get Kinovo Headphones for dirt cheap that have amazing quality especially with bass and long battery life (I can listen to 48 hours straight of tune-in-radio without having to charge the headphones). Just no noise canceling.
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...care to point out any earbuds that would qualify as repairable?
 
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It seems all of you are staring at the Apple tree and missing the iFixit forest. iFixit is a site that caters to the DIY crowd. Their repairability scores apply to all of the products they tear down; not just Apple products. They have repair guides for appliances, automobiles, toys, computers, phones, cameras, consoles, tablets, etc. The repairability score isn't a punishment. It's an indicator of how difficult they think the repair will be -important part here- if you choose to try it. A 0/10 score simply means this is not a diy project, keep it moving to something else. I love tinkering. I've done plenty of 7-8-9's, and a few 6's. I'd be willing to try something as low as a 4-5/10. Anything beyond that would probably be more than I'm willing to undertake. The repairability score serves a function. It's there to let diy'ers know what they are getting into.

OMG... finally someone that made sense! Everyone should read this post before butchering iFixit.
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...care to point out any earbuds that would qualify as repairable?
Sigh.. you're missing my point. But to answer your question, I would think none would qualify, but how would I know unless I open one up myself (Schrodinger's Cat). This is iFixit giving a valid opinion on a product based on a tear down for those that cater to the DIY. Which to me is dumb as hell why there is an article about this in the first place. It's one thing that a phone has a 0/10 repair ability, but having an article about a pair of earbuds being at 0/10.... well, it is a clickbait i suppose.

Here is my biggest issue. I just checked out some of the costs of the parts that go into these earbuds. I can see why iFixit is critical about this product along with the cost.
 
You mean like how Apple took care of those folks with Antennae-gate by "replacing their phones" with "the same exact phone except there is a bumper on it?"

Give me a break. If Apple had exploding batteries like Samsung, they would find every excuse in the book to find it somewhat viable.
I've never had a problem with Apple taking care of any issue I've had. the so-called "antenna gate" of iPhone 4 that your reference, was barely an issue which only affected a small number of people using their phones on the fringe of a cell signal. My phone never actually dropped a call because of it. The phone was a huge success and had less returns than the model before it. If this was actually a real issue, and not some click-bate overblown issue, then you'd have see far more returns. Apple did more than they needed to and anyone who wasn't happy could have easily returned their phone for a full refund. How is that not taking care of your customer?
 
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Would love to go back 50 years ago and stay there even though it would mean losing most of my technology.

Seriously? Not me...BTDT. Cars that killed you because they couldn't stop and disintegrated when they crashed. Medical technology (bio-pharmacuetical as well as hardware) that is nearly stone-age by comparison with today. I'm sure there are lots of other areas where tech has really made our lives genuinely better, but those leap to mind immediately.
 
Sigh.. you're missing my point. But to answer your question, I would think none would qualify, but how would I know unless I open one up myself (Schrodinger's Cat). This is iFixit giving a valid opinion on a product based on a tear down for those that cater to the DIY. Which to me is dumb as hell why there is an article about this in the first place. It's one thing that a phone has a 0/10 repair ability, but having an article about a pair of earbuds being at 0/10.... well, it is a clickbait i suppose.

Here is my biggest issue. I just checked out some of the costs of the parts that go into these earbuds. I can see why iFixit is critical about this product along with the cost.
No I get your point.

As for the underlined, how in the world did you get estimates of W1 production? How did you get an estimate on the insanely complex assembly process (the electronics fold over numerous times in such a small space)? iSupply and their ilk are the same clickbait phenomena you're describing from iFixit but in the realm of component costs.
 
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The repairability score on almost every product in the past couple years has been nearly zero. It shouldn't be any surprise nor should you need iFixit to tear these things down to know that you're not going to be able to simply repair this stuff yourself.

This isn't just the case with Apple. It's with all electronics, vehicles, and almost everything technology related in the world at this point.
Perception and reality sometimes inhabit different planes of existence. Repairability scores:
iPhone SE Score 6
iPhone 7/7+ Score 7
Google Pixel Score 7
Dell XPS 13 Score 7
Amazon Echo Score 7
Google Home Score 8
XB1 Score 8
PS4 Pro Score 8
Playstation VR Score 8

So you're right. It's not just the case with Apple. It's not even the case with Apple. Apple's most popular and profitable product has a decent repair score. I didn't chose rare, esoteric, or old products. I looked at recent and relevant products that are electronics.

Sometimes we make incorrect assumptions that serve to support our narrative. I've done it. Prolly gonna do it again. In this instance, your assumption doesn't fit the facts.
 
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Hearing aids are assembled in a similar fashion and yet they are thousands of dollars. It's the R&D that went into the design and making it so small. I think $160 for these little guys is fail. I'd like to see them at $120 though
 
i am going to give these a miss in favour of powerbeats3 and will see what generation 2 of the AirPods bring
 
The repairability score on almost every product in the past couple years has been nearly zero. It shouldn't be any surprise nor should you need iFixit to tear these things down to know that you're not going to be able to simply repair this stuff yourself.

This isn't just the case with Apple. It's with all electronics, vehicles, and almost everything technology related in the world at this point.

You're reading into what iFixit does way too much. You're focused on their rating system and yet miss the damn point because you're too blind to see it. Ask yourself what does the company iFixit do? Who is the target audience? Ask yourself what does the company Macrumors do? Who is their target audience? You're busting chops on a company that is INFORMING DIY REPAIRERS that they can not repair this device. You're busting chops on a company that sells their DIY tools to help Repairers. Macrumors is a site for news and iFixit tends to be news on all tech blog sites. Not only that, iFixIt does do teardowns based on requests and if i'm not mistaken, this product was a requested teardown.

You say you see no need for iFixit to tear these things down, I completely disagree 100%. If I want to repair something, I want to do it right. And I know iFixit goes through several devices before having a right guide in place for that said device.
 
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Warning if you live in the south. You might get some serious glue-ear. AirPods that will never come out!
 
I've never had a problem with Apple taking care of any issue I've had. the so-called "antenna gate" of iPhone 4 that your reference, was barely an issue which only affected a small number of people using their phones on the fringe of a cell signal. My phone never actually dropped a call because of it. The phone was a huge success and had less returns than the model before it. If this was actually a real issue, and not some click-bate overblown issue, then you'd have see far more returns. Apple did more than they needed to and anyone who wasn't happy could have easily returned their phone for a full refund. How is that not taking care of your customer?

Wrong already. It wasn't small scale like you said otherwise Apple wouldn't have made a public announcement to offer free bumper cases to iPhone 4 users. You're masking it completely. And you use "My" and "I" a lot in your statement, you don't speak for the majority. BTW, the "phone had huge success and less returns that the model before it", Show me those numbers! I find that hard to believe when the 3GS was one of the most successful iphones out there.

I agree about the clickbait part. But that's Macrumors, blame them for the article that you all have clicked on and complained that you clicked on. They have an email contact you can address that to.
 
They are bordering on being irresponsible with their speculation, but I guess they provide clickbait to sites who repeat. iFixit has a clear bias because their whole business model is threatened by Apple creating products that aren't amenable to user repairs.

iPhone SE Score 6
iPhone 7/7+ Score 7

Google Pixel Score 7
Dell XPS 13 Score 7
Amazon Echo Score 7
Google Home Score 8
XB1 Score 8
PS4 Pro Score 8
Playstation VR Score 8
You love to quote Apple's sales successes and profitability. Apple's most successful and profitable product is very amenable to user repairs. iFixit must be threatened.:rolleyes:;)
 
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Normally, I'm against the glue/solder everything to within an inch of it's life. In the case of the AirPods, I think it was the best move made by Apple. The water resistance of these things is... well, pretty damn incredible. Imo, the glue is a functional part of the AirPods. I don't even like BT headphones and like the look of the AirPods even less. They're ugly as sin to me. But the construction is supremely impressive. Hat Tip to 9to5Mac. Here's what I'm rambling about:
"These things are so light, that it's hard for them to gain any momentum"

Um, I don't think he understands gravity if that's his comment! Light things gain momentum at the same rate heavy things do. I thought we all learnt that in school. It's air resistance that is the factor, not mass.
 
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"These things are so light, that it's hard for them to gain any momentum"

Um, I don't think he understands gravity if that's his comment! Light things gain momentum at the same rate heavy things do. I thought we all learnt that in school. It's air resistance that is the factor, not mass.

Gravity causes the same acceleration on any mass (in the absence of air resistance), but objects with more mass do indeed have more momentum for any given speed (momentum=mass x velocity).

As an object with more momentum exerts more force when hitting the floor due to the fact that force = change in momentum / time or even mass x acceleration (and will therefore have equal but opposite force applied to it), the comment is perfectly valid
 
Normally, I'm against the glue/solder everything to within an inch of it's life. In the case of the AirPods, I think it was the best move made by Apple.

Sorry, but that struck me as a perfect "Koolaid" style Apple response. I'm hoping you didn't mean it that way. What I read was "I hate when companies do this, but Apple did it so it's OK...." ;)
 
Gravity causes the same acceleration on any mass (in the absence of air resistance), but objects with more mass do indeed have more momentum for any given speed (momentum=mass x velocity).

As an object with more momentum exerts more force when hitting the floor due to the fact that force = change in momentum / time or even mass x acceleration (and will therefore have equal but opposite force applied to it), the comment is perfectly valid
Ok, thank you for putting me right with such clarity and good grace (much more than my original comment!)
 
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