AirPods Tidbits: Hidden Apple Watch Features, Durability Test, and High Resale Prices

Agreed. At a minimum, redesign the white stem so that it better represents the function of its new role. Obviously, based on the teardown, they took advantage of the real estate to maximize the battery. But still, they could have designed something more aesthetically pleasing and dines the same thing.



EarPods are shaped the way they are based on function. The wires naturally flow out of the stalks, and therefore looks natural. It suggests where the sound is coming from and the purpose the Pods serve. Remove the wire, without alteration, and now there's form without real function. Yes the beam-forming mics are the new function, but after seeing the teardown, this is really more to accommodate the battery, and choice made following that decision. I'd love to see Apples efforts to redesign these, and see what they came up with, or if they just clipped off the wires, and worked backward.

There's high marketing value in keeping the original design, but a lot of the form is informed by the previous function, not the current function. They most likely could have improved the aesthetics of these considerably had they built them from the ground up. I'll be interested to see how these evolve -- stems of any kind are not ideal in these kinds of devices, so once Apple is able to offer the same battery life without the stems, I think we'll see a shift away from this design, and in the interim, I hope we'll see something that better reflects their new role rather than just recycling their original form without their derived function.

I don't think we will see the design of the AirPod evolve much, if at all. Apple rarely makes radical changes to the form factor of their products. If anything, Apple would already have decided on the direction they wanted to take the Airpods (e.g.: some sort of wearable health tracker) and worked backwards to get the design that they felt would best meet these goals.

The reason is many fold. One, it's a waste of engineering resources to be constantly revising the design of a product. Second, Apple reaps a lot of savings when you don't have to change your manufacturing process ever so often.

Like it or not, I believe we are stuck with the same Airpods design for the next couple of years at least.
 
That's just it. They took the wired EarPod design and ripped out the cables (metaphorically speaking). I would have liked to have seen the white stem removed or shortened. Competitors have already done it.

Alas, I think they're really cool. I just think the design could have been better. Maybe gen 2!

Others have said it already, but Apple really does use this space to an advantage. These have battery life unseen in wireless in-ear headphones, the stem helps with that. On top of this, they do look different. These definitely could become iconic. They standout, compared to the competition. People will know when you have AirPods.

In my opinion, these look good, and they look like the future, just like the original iPod and iPhone, these look like a wild imagination of the future. I think the competition looks rather garish, like oversized knobs sitting in the ear.
 
On Apple's main AirPod page, they make a point to mention that you can answer calls and adjust the volume without taking your phone out of your pocket, that is why I am asking. No one has clarified this yet, other than educated guesses.

I know you can just adjust the volume from the phone's volume buttons, and I can start naming off a bunch of scenarios where this would not be very convenient. Such as messy hands, phone in a backpack, or while driving just to name a few.

I also know you can adjust the volume with an AW, but this requires an AW.

Didn't mean to step on your toes. Ah yes, it is my understanding that you can utilize Siri to answer/make phone calls and change volume. Obviously not the most convenient and responsive way to do these things, but since it's possible, then I guess they can advertise it. I'm not 100% on this though. To me it would make sense to be able to answer a call via a single/double tap on an AirPod.
 
Others have said it already, but Apple really does use this space to an advantage. These have battery life unseen in wireless in-ear headphones, the stem helps with that. On top of this, they do look different. These definitely could become iconic. They standout, compared to the competition. People will know when you have AirPods.

In my opinion, these look good, and they look like the future, just like the original iPod and iPhone, these look like a wild imagination of the future. I think the competition looks rather garish, like oversized knobs sitting in the ear.

Yes, but Apple did not design the stems for this purpose. When the stems were designed, form followed function. Now function follows form. I don't agree Apple could not have come up with a better design, if they had only followed their own design philosophy.

If Apple had set out to design these from scratch they most likely would have looked very different, more futuristic, and just as iconic. These look a bit silly.

Again, Apple doesn't want stems sticking out of their AirPods, but they converted the previous form for a new function to take advantage of the space to place their batteries, which is why they can outperform other wireless buds. But they didn't have to design them this way. That's why we'll likely see a change to a much more ergonomic stemless design as soon as Apple can achieve the technology. The competition will catch up to Apple quickly, and many of those designs are much more desirable than Apple's. Though Apple seems to be doing a lot of resting on its laurels lately ... Time will tell.
 
Really? I genuinely think they're the worst earphones I've ever heard (actually, second worse after the original iPod earphones) but then I am really into headphones and audio quality and some people just like "sound".

They sound pretty good to me... Then again I am no audiophile and I certainly don't expect much sound wise from a $159 set of BT headphones..

Overall I am happy with them and think they sound as good as my Jaybird X2's did..
 
Yes, but Apple did not design the stems for this purpose. When the stems were designed, form followed function. Now function follows form. I don't agree Apple could not have come up with a better design, if they had only followed their own design philosophy.

If Apple had set out to design these from scratch they most likely would have looked very different, more futuristic, and just as iconic. These look a bit silly.

Again, Apple doesn't want stems sticking out of their AirPods, but they converted the previous form for a new function to take advantage of the space to place their batteries, which is why they can outperform other wireless buds. But they didn't have to design them this way. That's why we'll likely see a change to a much more ergonomic stemless design as soon as Apple can achieve the technology. The competition will catch up to Apple quickly, and many of those designs are much more desirable than Apple's. Though Apple seems to be doing a lot of resting on its laurels lately ... Time will tell.

"Again, Apple doesn't want stems sticking out of their AirPods, but they converted the previous form for a new function to take advantage of the space to place their batteries, which is why they can outperform other wireless buds."

The stem also contains the antenna element, which is crucial to get the excellent range they have. If a smaller antenna were housed inside the bud the operating range would be significantly less and with annoying cutouts.
 
Yes, but Apple did not design the stems for this purpose. When the stems were designed, form followed function. Now function follows form. I don't agree Apple could not have come up with a better design, if they had only followed their own design philosophy.

If Apple had set out to design these from scratch they most likely would have looked very different, more futuristic, and just as iconic. These look a bit silly.

Again, Apple doesn't want stems sticking out of their AirPods, but they converted the previous form for a new function to take advantage of the space to place their batteries, which is why they can outperform other wireless buds. But they didn't have to design them this way. That's why we'll likely see a change to a much more ergonomic stemless design as soon as Apple can achieve the technology. The competition will catch up to Apple quickly, and many of those designs are much more desirable than Apple's. Though Apple seems to be doing a lot of resting on its laurels lately ... Time will tell.

I would argue that form enables function here. Apple probably saw that the stems allowed for all the benefits already mentioned (longer battery life, microphone placement, maybe even lower centre of gravity?). It's iconic and solves all their problems, so why not?

I am curious as to see how the competition will catch up to Apple. For one, $160 is already very cheap for a pair of wireless earbuds. Not many companies can afford to go lower and still hope to turn a profit. I suspect we will soon see a repeat of the Apple Watch market.
 
Others have said it already, but Apple really does use this space to an advantage. These have battery life unseen in wireless in-ear headphones, the stem helps with that. On top of this, they do look different. These definitely could become iconic. They standout, compared to the competition. People will know when you have AirPods.

In my opinion, these look good, and they look like the future, just like the original iPod and iPhone, these look like a wild imagination of the future. I think the competition looks rather garish, like oversized knobs sitting in the ear.

The battery life of 5 hours, it must bear repeating, is only for music etc. Talk time is under half that, which I was not expecting - nor aware of till I got them.
 
The battery life of 5 hours, it must bear repeating, is only for music etc. Talk time is under half that, which I was not expecting - nor aware of till I got them.

Makes sense. Supporting a full-duplex phone conversation AirPods are doing twice as much work, actually more when transmitting your voice, yielding half the battery life or less.
 
I really dislike that they do not have a way to physically adjust the volume like the EarPods and some other BT headsets have (meaning without touching the phone or AW).
Have not tried during a call, but, if you have an Apple Watch its awesome. And stop complaining you have to touch the watch. What did you do before? Touch the cord controls. Watch is easier.

Okay, to be fair, maybe you didn't see the other posts, and the post of mine that I quoted did not make it clear.... I do not have an AW. I did not mean to say that I didn't want to touch my AW, I do not own one, and have no plans on getting one, at least for now.

My post should have said ...
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I really dislike that they do not have a way to physically adjust the volume like the EarPods and some other BT headsets have (meaning without touching the phone or using an AW that I do not currently have and might not ever get).

That said, I was just stating my disappointment with the lack of physical volume control on the AirPods during a phone call situation. I know, I know... As many people pointed out all ready, I can always use the volume control on my phone, which is true. But there are many cases in which this would be inconvenient.

One example is the one right on Apple's own AirPod website, stating that you can take calls on your phone and adjust the volume without touching your phone because your phone is in a backpack.

It looks like Apple is right, and you can answer your phone, and adjust the volume of it right from the AirPod without touching your phone, but not at the same time.

If you don't have a AW. Guess you have to get one now its one of the best things the watch now does.

If one of the AW best features is controlling the volume of the AirPods, then the AW might be in trouble. This should be a bonus feature at best.
 
Makes sense. Supporting a full-duplex phone conversation AirPods are doing twice as much work, actually more when transmitting your voice, yielding half the battery life or less.

It does make sense, but it's a really disappointing amount of talk time regardless.
 
If one of the AW best features is controlling the volume of the AirPods, then the AW might be in trouble. This should be a bonus feature at best.

I think a better way to say it is that of all the methods of volume control for airpods, the digital crown on apple watch is the best way to do it (rather than say it is one of the AW best features).

It turns the apple watch into a physical volume dial for the airpods.

So old-fashioned people will love this.

And I'm old-fashioned.

So yeah! Go with the digital crown on apple watch
 
I think a better way to say it is that of all the methods of volume control for airpods, the digital crown on apple watch is the best way to do it (rather than say it is one of the AW best features).

It turns the apple watch into a physical volume dial for the airpods.

So old-fashioned people will love this.

And I'm old-fashioned.

So yeah! Go with the digital crown on apple watch

Except again, this doesn't work for phone calls, for reasons that escape me...
 
Except again, this doesn't work for phone calls, for reasons that escape me...
Can you confirm this? I saw this some where before.

So, it if this is true, the only method to adjust the volume during a phone call is by using the phone itself.

I guess you could be on a call and if it is too loud, hang up on the person, then tell Siri to turn down the volume(hopefully it works) and call back the person you hung up on.
 
Can you confirm this? I saw this some where before.

So, it if this is true, the only method to adjust the volume during a phone call is by using the phone itself.

I guess you could be on a call and if it is too loud, hang up on the person, then tell Siri to turn down the volume(hopefully it works) and call back the person you hung up on.

Yes, can confirm. Using the Watch only changes volume for music etc. Phone calls the crown does nothing. Hopefully Apple addresses this down the line, because it seems a bit odd.
[doublepost=1482384815][/doublepost]Random question: anyone else's charging case lid make any "snapping" sounds when you push it left or right (lateral to the bottom part) when it's closed?
 
And if someone has lots of money and doesn't want to take it to their grave and wants something that would cost more to get it early, what is wrong with that and why are you passing judgement on what someone else does with their money?

So you blasted a product you hadn't even seen, and now you like the product based upon what someone else said.
I'm not interested in a diagnosis. Go find some other form of entertainment.
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How do EarPods with a long cord from each ear going into your pocket not look any sillier?
People got used to it is why. People will eventually get used to this as well.
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Really? I genuinely think they're the worst earphones I've ever heard (actually, second worse after the original iPod earphones) but then I am really into headphones and audio quality and some people just like "sound".
I have studio audio equipment and produce music as a hobby, so sound quality to me is incredibly important as well.

I honestly think the EarPods sound good because they are balanced (fairly flat) and offer decent clarity. They're not gonna compete with a two hundred dollar set of earbuds but they definitely sound better than 35 dollars.
 
The battery life of 5 hours, it must bear repeating, is only for music etc. Talk time is under half that, which I was not expecting - nor aware of till I got them.

That I was not aware of either, while disappointing not a big issue for me as i don't spend much time on calls . For some this will be a major problem , a couple hours of talk time is quite bad if his intend to use them at work and that involves calls most of the day
 
Damn, these are fundamentally still £30 sounding headphones that I really like but you would be crazy to pay over RRP.

Forgetting the SQ of these, they are very light, fit is a personal issue, have a very good mic and have excellent BT connectivity . The charging case is great to keep the battery charged up and keep them safe.

Okay, they look weird, but in my case not an issue as my hair covers my ears. If I had short hair.....dunno.

Some people have disposable income that allows them to buy the things they want.
 
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