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AirPort Express with AirTunes

Sir_Giggles said:
Both apps would need to support Rendezvous for wireless audio to work. But its kinda useless because then you'll also need wireless video for a truly portable solution. The problem is, with watching video, you're in one spot the whole time so portability is not required. You'll never see the need for wireless videos of DVDs because a DVD player hooked to a TV already does this more elegantly and cheaply.
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Good point, and well put.
 
Express Questions...

I have two questions about this.
1) If I have my desktop with my iTunes library, but it's not connected wirelessly to my network. However, I do have a wireless router. Would I be able to transmit my music to the Express?
2) Could this be used as a wireless bridge. (i.e. connect a computer in my basement with just a wired card without running cat5 cable down there.)

-Dalf
 
Jack White said:
this may have been said already but...


US: $129

exchange rate: roughly 1.75

UK price = £75 ?

No!

£99 grr!!
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Just curious is the £99 with the taxes (VAT and others)? Just trying to understand the pricing differences.

Edit: Seems like some had the same thought I did...
 
Pudge, Slashdot's Apple specialist, has this to say:

I just got word from a "knowledgable source" :) that iTunes 4.6 can send any music to the base station that it has access to, including from iTunes Music Sharing. However, since it just acts as a remote speaker, it means to do this, you will be streaming twice the amount of data over your network, and you'll need to leave iTunes open on the laptop. Bleah.

So the options now -- since VNC and ARD are not an option, because of ease-of-use and security concerns -- are netTunes (which works now, because -- I didn't realize -- it basically just does a VNC of that one app), and an Apache interface.

Also, the Express CAN share Internet access over the LAN to wired clients.
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blue&whiteman said:
could this also mean that it would be harder for someone to hijack your signal?
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Not unless you already have a ton of people on your network. The average person has no more than five devices connecting. Even ten wouldn't be pushing it.
 
Short Simple WAN/LAN clarification

Airport express CAN:

- connect to a cable/dsl modem via "WAN" port and be a wirelesss connection

or

- connect to a router and receive an IP address via the "LAN" port and be a wirelss connection

Airport Express CANNOT:

- supply a computer (desktop) with an IP address via the "LAN" port

Does that jive?

lb

P.S. I'm really stoked with this product, and the hint of the direction that Apple is heading - tip of the iceberg?

P.P.S. Do kids still say "stoked" these days?
 
nsb3000 said:
Not true. The difference between and access point and a router is that a router creates a local area network (LAN) with internal IP address that all share one external IP address.

An accese point on the other hand acts lick a cheap ethernet switch, it does allow you have multiple computer connected at the same time, but they will all get there own external IP addresses. Now, I realize that many broadband providers may not allow this, or charge extra for extra IP addresses, but on my college campus I have been using an Access point for about 6 months with no problems.

An access point can also be used to extend a LAN created by a router.
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I am a little confused by this. I don't think the second part is totally correct. Typically, for most consumers, their broadband provider gives them a single external IP address and expects only a single computer attached to the service. However, if you attach an Apple Airport Base Station is appears to support multiple computers without having multiple external IP addresses. Is this an issue of NAT?
 
Just ordered one from AppleStore Norway... :D

It was NOK 1299 including shipping and taxes. This is really a rip-off as NOK 1299 is more than USD 195 at todays exchange rate... :mad:

It says estimated build time 3 days, though... I'm getting my hopes up... :p

Edit: Just received my confirmation, and the delivery time is really uplifting:

How long will my order take?

Allow 3 days to build your order.Allow 3 - 7 business days(after shipping) to deliver.

Please note that these are business days and are estimated leadtimes only.
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yoman said:
Did anyone see this coming? Is this the new mystery device thats been rumored for months if not centuries :)
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No. There are still 80 unannounced sessions at WWDC. Tiger's new features can't take that many - maybe half. Unless we get to see what the OS is on the Airport Express.
 
LaMerVipere said:
Can anyone tell me how to talk some sense into my father?
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Tell your dad it's like a door. You can put a door in your house and lock it. Or you can leave it unlocked. That's up to you, but if someone comes in and takes your beer when your door is unlocked you shouldn't be surprised.

Now, make sure you're a good locksmith so you don't wind up making an ass of yourself. As others have written, WPA and disabled SSID broadcast are a good start.
 
James Craner said:
VAT rate in the UK is 17.5%, which works out to be about GBP 87, so Apple have added about £12. I don't know if the duty rates are different in the US compared with the USA on these products. I presume these are made in the far east somewhere.
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I wonder if there are other costs of doing business in the UK that causes the prices to be higher also.
 
k.double said:
for the record, the AIRPORT EXPRESS wireless router CAN NOT be connected to a computer via the ethernet port to server as a wireless adapter for that machine. the ethernet port is only capable of distributing a dsl/cable connection.
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Apple would actually have to intentionally cripple this thing to make that so. At the packet level there's no such thing as a DSL or Cable modem, it's a wire. There's probably limited room for features on this brick so why would they bother?

I suspect that when these ship they'll actually be capable of sitting on a LAN just fine, even if that's not advertized on the glossies.

Me, I'm sticking with my 50' headphone cable which works Just Fine. I've been playing iTunes at my stereo for 5 years for $20. OK, it was SoundJam first, then iTunes.

[Edit: ah, I see the picture captions others have posted.]
 
gola said:
Anybody know if the airtunes streaming works with only the older airport cards (not extreme g speed, but b)? Too slow for music streaming?
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Sure, even if it's 5 uncompressed channels at 24-bit 96K/s, that's well under the 5mbps you can reliably get with 802.11b. And it probably does some compression.

We don't know how it works yet.
 
nien0029 said:
I am wondering the same thing but it seems that Apple puts a lot of footnotes in their product info like, "AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express can extend the range only of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express wireless network."

Anyone have an idea?
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WDS is a quasi-standard that's likely behind this feature. You probably have more luck among chipset vendors (atheros, broadcom) but it's usually only supported among gear from the same company (linksys,d-link,apple,etc).

I'm sure it'll get standardized and interoperable in the next couple years.
 
Airport Express - Check

Just ordered one here in Sweden, 1395 SEK is pretty much ok, me thinks
The weird thing is that it says "Shipping within 3 days" which must be a mistake. Oh well, we'll see

/ filipp
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
I wonder if there are other costs of doing business in the UK that causes the prices to be higher also.
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No not really, however I expect Apple have hedged a little against movement in exchange rates. If you used say 1.6 rather than 1.75 then that gets you to about GBP 94 including VAT. In recent years the exchange rate got as low as 1.4 to the pound.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
Surprised that no one has mentioned how cool this will be for college students....
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iTunes Music sharing is already incredible on a college campus. As long as there are a good number of users on your subnet. At my campus, there are two residence halls per subnet, i usually get about 15-20 shared libraries. It's great, though, i doubt this will make it any easier! :)
 
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