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joemama said:
4.) Use an A/V adapter to show them on ANY tv with RCA input jacks. Bingo! No legal problems from the industry because it can only be viewed on someone elses TV, not recorded. Everyone talks movies, but right now TV is very hot with all the good shows on.

Finally, Tivo will no longer exist.
I was with you until this last point. If it outs out a composite signal on RCA connectors, why can't I record it to a DVD recorder/VCR.

Plus, I think that TiVo has a fair amount of good patent around PVR applications so for them to no longer exist means that they got bought out by someone else. Comcast? DirectTV? Apple?

B
 
balamw said:
I was with you until this last point. If it outs out a composite signal on RCA connectors, why can't I record it to a DVD recorder/VCR.

Plus, I think that TiVo has a fair amount of good patent around PVR applications so for them to no longer exist means that they got bought out by someone else. Comcast? DirectTV? Apple?

B

Yes, you could record to any device, if it has composite-in. Anyone can record a regular TV show to a VCR, that is legal. Same way you can record from the radio to tape (at least when I grew up it was tapes). My example is if Johnny goes over gary's house and plays him the episode of 24 he missed.

As far as patents, cable companies have their own DVR recoders, so they figuerd out a way. Also, You might just see an announcement that Apple did infact buy Tivo....circumventing legal problems.
 
Wonder Boy said:
now there's an idea. i could use that function, too.

You can already do that in FCP, but not iMovie. You can use a miniDV deck or a camera and plug the camera into the TV via s-video or a/v and stream the window you are currently in (viewer or Canvas) to the TV. Just set it up in the preferences. But if you don't have a TV near your computer then you are out of luck.
 
iTunes Mobile

I think the latest iPods will offer a version of iTunes mobile. Apple already built this but in a limited fashion for the ROKR. I think they will release a full blown mobile iTunes for the updated iPods. This will do away with the need to create playlists and then sync with your iPod. Now you create and edit all your playlists wherever you go. The only reason you will need the computer is to sync new music to the iPod. This will bring with it's iTunes movie playing abilities.
 
daveL said:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this product. It's currently selling for $100, after a $100 rebate.

Interesting. I wonder if if they are trying to sell off inventory based on advanced notice of an apple-branded competitor product?

Hmmm, I already have an Eye TV for my iMac. It would be cool if I could load those TV show recordings onto a videopod and watch them in my living room
 
balamw said:
I was with you until this last point. If it outs out a composite signal on RCA connectors, why can't I record it to a DVD recorder/VCR.
Macrovision.
 
EricNau said:
Would Apple really make it Video Airport Express. I'm assuming then, one would put videos on thier computer, via Combo/Superdrive. What is stopping me from getting Netflix and having all of the DVD's I ever wanted, virtually for free?

what's to stop you from doing that today? nothing, except maybe morals.
 
one thing people forgot about this...

playing video wirelessly is all cool, but I am actually very interested in the idea of streaming MUSIC wirelessly. airport express was good if you have a laptop to stream music, but if I could stream music by just holding my ipod, that would be super.

also, that casts doom for sonos music server and several other streaming devices.

also, I hope the whole thing comes with a software that lets you rip movies at a lower bitrate or something.....note that it is different from copying dvds. maybe something could be done so that as one rips the movie some sort of encryption would be written on the file so nobody can actually "burn" it.

also, movie downloading service wouldn't be bad either.
 
This isn't meant as a bitch, but . . .

All this talk sounds nice, but these products Apple introduce seem hit and miss. I bought several Airport Express' but could not get even one to work with my mini and my router -- Apple support was helpful but could not come up with anything that would make it work either. My Bluetooth will not work with my Epson printer -- again Apple support could not assist me.

These devices seem great -- but I'm rather tired of spending so much time trying to set them up and then have the products fail. It has gotten to the point where I want to be the last person to migrate to these products not the first. It took me a couple years to finally move to OSX, as an example.

I'll let you guys be the first to try this stuff out -- then I'll sit back and read the Apple forums to see when it is safe to dip my toe in the water.

The last product that I bought that I am 100% happy with is my Toshiba DVD recorder -- it must be too good, they discountinued the product and now it's hard to find a DVD recorder with hard drive that is half as good.
 
gnujon said:
Actually, the USB port on the Airport Express is not only intended for printers. :)
Oh nice. I forgot about that. :)
zv470 said:
i hope this box can record tv, i'm in the market for a HDD video recorder... at the moment I can only think of PSP with the new Sony video recorder that can transfer files to a PSP. Please Apple...!! iPod Video and a HDD recorder box. please :) so I can watch my favorite shows that i miss while i'm at work.
You can record TV with an EyeTV, and transcode it to your PSP's format by way of Toast 7.
 
Not True

broken_keyboard said:
Good question. If they are using H.264 to compress it then the base station must have a powerful chip for decompression.

Not to long ago ATI anounced hardware decompression of H.264 in a video card. By using a chip that was designed for decompressing H.264 it would not have to be a very powerful CPU. One could even design your own custom chip, by first designing it on an FPGA then use the FPGA code to generate your custom ASIC. Chances are there are multiple chips out who's soul purpose being to decompress H.264 for use in the next generation DVD HD-DVD or BlueRay. H.264 is going to be the standard compression for them isn't it? Just like mpeg2 is for normal DVDs.
 
danielwsmithee said:
Chances are there are multiple chips out who's soul purpose being to decompress H.264 for use in the next generation DVD HD-DVD or BlueRay. H.264 is going to be the standard compression for them isn't it? Just like mpeg2 is for normal DVDs.
Three codecs need to be supported - H.264 (MPEG-4 part10), WMV (VC-9), and MPEG-2 for compatibility.
 
numediaman said:
I bought several Airport Express' but could not get even one to work with my mini and my router -- Apple support was helpful but could not come up with anything that would make it work either.

So your third-party router doesn't work with your AirPort Express? Hurm, I hope your not trying to do WDS because it's only officially supported by an Apple AirPort Extreme Base Station.

numediaman said:
My Bluetooth will not work with my Epson printer -- again Apple support could not assist me.

AppleCare shouldn't be assisting you with your printer setup. Have you contacted Epson?
 
922 said:
Who cares about watching The Incredibles on a 4" screen.

I do. My coworker 3 doors down does, my dad does, most of my friends do or already do, and pretty much everyone I talk to at work that air hops across the country does. But what do they know. :rolleyes:
 
The TiVO Mac

The Video Airport Express would be the first step in having Apple release a Mac Media Computer. Windows has their own Media Center which can record TV shows just like TiVO, without the TiVO cost. Plus, the new XBox 360 has a video distribution system in it so if you want to send recorded video to another room, you could.

I've been waiting for Apple to come out with a media center that will allow me to manage music, video, pictures, etc and allow me to send them to the device of my choosing.

Excellent. I'll buy one the day it comes on the market.
Race.
 
iPod as macmini/tivo-y thing remote

toneloco2881 said:
Has anyone considered that the "iPod" is the remote. It's rumored to have 802.11 built-in.

Was there not some talk about a year ago that the mac mini had a dock-like thing (suitable for plugging an iPod into) under the case that wasn't utilized?

My bet (for what it's worth) is that the big announcement is going to be for some sort of home A/V device. It seems odd that the the rumour (CDN spelling folks) mill should be throwing up objects like enhanced video capabilities in existing products, video iPods, new powermacs/books and the like. It makes it likely (methinks) that the new device (if it is a device) is something that unites/exploits these other devices.

In addition, the xmas consumer-fest fast approacheth and a home compu-A/V doo-dad (streaming or not) would be rather appealing and an announcement thereof equally well-timed...

I'm no techie, but maybe a tivo-ish thingy is in the offing. Folks looooove their tivos and other assorted PVRs as much as folks love iPods. A home A/V device that lures folks to Mac by offering a whizz-bang gizmo that only works with Mac might work well as trojan horse strategy. Then again, it might be on the wrong side of a "chicken-egg" scenario (if indeed there is a wrong side).

update: just saw the claim that the show's all about powerbook/mac updates. Dang. On the upside, I am looking to upgrade my laptop... It ain't as exciting as the speculation here however...
 
people have been thinking of things that devices could do IF they produced them. Big talk has been big movies. But as noted, movies are 2-3 hours of sitting time. Big benefit has been short 5-minute songs on an ipod.

I am starting to think that what's coming is "Tv podcasting". Apple would have been talking to the same companies "in hollywood" that make movies - the same ones that make TV shows. Sure, I can watch all the over-the-air TV I want for free now, or pay $50 a month for dish or cable. most shows are 30 mins. most people will sit that long.

What about a paradigm where I pay for individual TV shows, or "Season passes" (sorry to use the TIVO branded word)? For alot of people, this could save big bucks over expensive programming packages.

Apple makes money, broadcasters/networks happier because they get more revenue (and commercials less of an issue). Cable and dish companies not so happy. Win-win-win!

It takes tivo out of the loop too. It makes them obsolete.
 
hscottm said:
It takes tivo out of the loop too. It makes them obsolete.

Unless Apple partners with Tivo. TivoToGo currently only works with Windows. Granted, Tivo isn't due to offer HDTV support (aside from it's DirecTV deal) until next year.
 
Aeolius said:
Unless Apple partners with Tivo. TivoToGo currently only works with Windows. Granted, Tivo isn't due to offer HDTV support (aside from it's DirecTV deal) until next year.

point is, why just partner?

FWIW - I'll be happy if they do - 2 great companies. But why be constrained by what is already in the market. imagine how OS X and ipods would look if they based their decision on windows and 1st-gen mp3 players?

also, my proposition goes way beyond tivotogo.
 
Streaming video over wifi would render it useless for all over tasks. A dedicated connection is more likely of a choice. Using wireless firewire you could stream video without using any bandwidth from your current network.

firewire + MPEG4 wireless firewire
 
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