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Airport Extreme (802.11n) and Apple TV Ship Dates
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Yup, both have the .n enabled. They're both C2D (2.16ghz) and running 10.4.8.
The software in the link above looks like what's in the new "AirPort Utility". I haven't seen how to make it show anything other than what's in the screenshot above.
My network is mixed -- 802.11n w/ 802.11g clients attached, so I thought it wasn't supposed to run at full speed, which is why I was confused to see the Dell connected at such a high speed.Krevnick said:
The ultimate test is copying some files. I'll try that in a bit and see if it's really 2x faster than the MBPs.
I did some tests pre and post upgrade. Here are my results:
Here's my setup:
equipment:
Linksys WRT300N router
iMac G5 Gigabit Ethernet connection to Router
MacBook C2D connecting via airport card
Test File: 59.2MB QuickTime h.264 video
Test distances:
test 1: 1 meter distance, no obstructions between MacBook and Router
test 2: 20 meters distance, wood and plaster walls between MacBook and Router
I tested an upload from MacBook to iMac, and a download of the same file from iMac to MacBook. Each test was done 4 times, and the numbers shown below are averages. I ran the test in a mixed mode on router before the upgrade, in N-only mode on router, and mixed-mode after the upgrade, for a total of 48 file transfers.
Transfer times are in seconds
Test 1: 1 meter, no obstructions
MacBook Router Upload Download
.....G......Mixed....40.........35
.....N.........N.......31.........12
.....N......Mixed....31.........20
Test 2: 20 meter, with obstructions
MacBook Router Upload Download
.....G......Mixed....65.........62
.....N.........N.......31.........12
.....N......Mixed....32.........19
Most interesting to me was the disparity between up and downloads. I wouldn't have thought there to be a difference here, and I'm not sure where this is coming from: the MacBook, Router, or iMac.
Also notice the time difference for the long distance test in G versus the same tests in N. I was sitting on my front sidewalk for this test, and in G mode (pre-upgrade) I had 1-2 bars showing on the Airport icon. In N mode I had all 4 bars showing all the time. This alone is worth the price of admission to me
I did some tests pre and post upgrade. Here are my results:
Also notice the time difference for the long distance test in G versus the same tests in N. I was sitting on my front sidewalk for this test, and in G mode (pre-upgrade) I had 1-2 bars showing on the Airport icon. In N mode I had all 4 bars showing all the time. This alone is worth the price of admission to me
Nice one. Thanks.
If you do this again could you put some screen shots of the managment software reporting transfer speeds?
I had the same experience -- 4 bars at a distance that I would normally only have 1 or 2.I was sitting on my front sidewalk for this test, and in G mode (pre-upgrade) I had 1-2 bars showing on the Airport icon. In N mode I had all 4 bars showing all the time. This alone is worth the price of admission to me
What surprised me was that even though I had 4 bars, the Airport Extreme client status utility showed my connection had dropped from 300 Mb down to 62 Mb. I guess you can't use the bars anymore to get a feel for how fast the connection actually is.
This isn't quite what you're asking him for, but for what it's worth, here's two shots of the AirPort Utility showing my connect speeds.
On the shots below, my MBP is the green line. As you can see from the signal, I was walking all around my house (inside and out).
The first shot is when I was inside, sitting on the couch, about 10 feet from the new Airport Extreme. It shows my MBP connected at 300 Mb.
The second shot is when I was outside the back of my house, about 150 feet from the AE. It shows my MBP connected at 108 Mb. I didn't snag it in that shot, but I had four signal bars out there too.
I ended up setting up a dual-band network (with my 802.11g devices on a separate 2.4ghz network than my 802.11n-only 5ghz network). Works great, and now all of the 802.11n laptops connect at 300 Mb.
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What are you using for your g network? An older model AE?
I am hoping the MIMO aspect means that N/G dual will give me better reception for my G MBP that I get now.
It is the router + computer mix, I saw the exact same disparity with the same router, and I do /not/ see it with the Airport Extreme. Considering I move large files regularly (one of the reasons for wanting N), it is frustrating to see it. If you used the router with the same brand wireless hardware, then you would likely not see it either.
I'm using an older Extreme and an Airport for my G network -- one on each end of the house.
Now my issue du jour is that in Boot Camp (XP SP2), neither of the C2D MBPs here can successfully connect to the N or the G network. In OS X, both MBPs can connect to either. Roommates Dell laptop (also running XP) can connect to either as well.
Using mine as a mixed one to effectively G network at present.
So first AE ordered on Keynote - Landed to me Monday 5 Feb
Second AE ordered 31 Jan - Expects to land 3 March.
So first AE ordered on Keynote - Landed to me Monday 5 Feb
Second AE ordered 31 Jan - Expects to land 3 March.
Airport Utility
I am very disappointed in the monitoring capabilities of the new Airport Utility. I can't compare it to any previous versions, since I didn't use them. But this utility is all about configuration, with almost no visibility into operational data. Unless I'm missing something, but I've looked carefully. PM me, and I'll describe the one monitoring screen that I have found.
I am very disappointed in the monitoring capabilities of the new Airport Utility. I can't compare it to any previous versions, since I didn't use them. But this utility is all about configuration, with almost no visibility into operational data. Unless I'm missing something, but I've looked carefully. PM me, and I'll describe the one monitoring screen that I have found.
802.11n Enabler
The enabler utility is included on the CD that's in the box. It installs with the new Airport Utility and whatever else is on there. I noticed it specifically. What I can't figure out is how to verify that my MBP is indeed now running N protocols on N frequencies...
The enabler utility is included on the CD that's in the box. It installs with the new Airport Utility and whatever else is on there. I noticed it specifically. What I can't figure out is how to verify that my MBP is indeed now running N protocols on N frequencies...
In Stores Sooner?
Yep. I picked mine up Friday (February 2nd) at my local store in the Memphis, TN area.
Yep. I picked mine up Friday (February 2nd) at my local store in the Memphis, TN area.
Well, for what it's worth, there was pretty much no monitoring capabilities in the previous version. You couldn't even see what DHCP clients were using addresses. That's crazy!
With the new one, I can see pretty much everything I'd want to know about every unit connected to the base station.
What's missing that's disappointing?
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Got mine today
I was very surprised when the unit turned up today via FedEx.
The email I got said to expect it on or about the 14th.
Setting it up know.
I was very surprised when the unit turned up today via FedEx.
The email I got said to expect it on or about the 14th.
Setting it up know.
Mine Shipped!
My shipped from China today! Scheduled delivery for tomorrow!!
Will let you know what I think!!
My shipped from China today! Scheduled delivery for tomorrow!!
Will let you know what I think!!
Yes, I was surprised also that mine showed up today. And yes I have the amber blinking light as well. As long as you're connected and everything else is fine, the blinking amber light means that you haven't enabled security on its network. If you go into the network utility, and on the summary panel, it will show the amber light next to your router, and if you click on that, it will go to another panel telling you the reason for the amber light. For mine, it was simply because I hadn't enabled security. (I have roommates, and I have to coordinate with them first before adding the security password.) Does anyone know, if these roommates have xp, would they be able to connect using the WPA2 security?
I placed the order on 1/10/07. I got the email it was going to be shipped on 14th first, but today I received another email that it already shipped today and it will be delivered tomorrow (so they upgraded my shipping since I had just free regular shipping)
My roommate is running XP on a Dell laptop and has no problem with the Extreme set for "WPA2/WPA2 Personal".
port forwarding on AE
Hey all,
this is my first post in this forum. i've been on here since august when i was going to buy a Macbook Pro.. ended up waiting (thanks to the info on here) until the C2D's came out.
i'm looking to pair my new C2D with an Airport Extreme. i was hoping you could answer a question for me... i download torrents often and i was wondering if you can use the port forwarding feature on an AE just like you can on a Linksys router to make for a faster download.
thanks for any input... i appreciate all the valuable info on here.
-Brandon
Hey all,
this is my first post in this forum. i've been on here since august when i was going to buy a Macbook Pro.. ended up waiting (thanks to the info on here) until the C2D's came out.
i'm looking to pair my new C2D with an Airport Extreme. i was hoping you could answer a question for me... i download torrents often and i was wondering if you can use the port forwarding feature on an AE just like you can on a Linksys router to make for a faster download.
thanks for any input... i appreciate all the valuable info on here.
-Brandon