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Among other rumors floating around the mill looking forward to tomorrow's Keynote Speech, minor details have emerged about upcoming use of 802.11n wireless networking. Found in the MacWorld Conference & Expo PI: Advanced Wireless outlook, the description starts with:Wireless networking is about to undergo major changes, with 802.11n, or Airport Extreme X2 and X4. Apple has been rumored to be including the faster "n" soon-to-be standard (up to 600 mb/s), with recent curiosities of the protocol showing up in the latest iMac, MacBook Pro and most recently MacBooks.

Readers also note the recent lack of any availability of Airport base stations on Apple's website, with a refresh to the base station rumored as recently as September of 2006.

Article Link: Airport Extreme X2 and X4?
 

pdpfilms

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Yeah, I was wondering how they were planing on doing 802.11n with the existing Airport Extreme base stations.

But i wonder hoe X2 and X4 would differ?
 

~Shard~

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It wasn't too hard to see this one coming, what with the new 802.11n standard and all, it was more just a question of when. And if that "when" is tomorrow, even better! ;) :cool:
 

dnedved

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Seems to be a requirement for the iTV product. They'll need the bandwidth to stream 1080p, and Jobs would be a sucker to introduce a TV related product in 2007 that can't handle 1080p.

I've been waiting for this more than anything else -- one more month of sucky Linksys daily crashes!!!
 

zuggerat

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man i havent posted in a while, and im kinda ashamed my return to the forum coincides with quicker access to pornography posts :D
 

R.Youden

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I hope Apple dont shoot themselves in the foot with this and the 'iTV'. From what I can gather the iTV will require 802.11n to work effectively at high bandwidth but this will limit to people who have bought a mac within the last few months. I either hope they release a 802.11n card which is compatible with the extreme cards or they have some other fancy way of getting around it!
 

syklee26

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wasn't the new iTV supposed to serve also as a wireless router? maybe it will come with Wireless N.

but the question is, would the mac owners without the new N card notice any difference with N router?
 

Mudbug

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faster p0rn download is right around the corner with new airport express.

while I get this is a joke, what makes more sense is that internal networking on high-speed networks will see major speed increases over previous technology, while "surfing the net" will remain at the present speed due to the bottleneck for most users being the download bandwidth provided by their ISP's. The majority of broadband users on cable or DSL receive only 4-5 mb/s of bandwidth, which is available at full speed from even the first-round wireless products in the 802.11b genre.
 

Digital Skunk

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It Would Make Sense

It seems to coincide with an updated preview of the iTV. It would go hand in hand with Apple stating all the things the iTV can do with wireless media transmission and all. Then Jobs will introduce the hub with which all that high quality media can be streamed back and forth.

I just hope that the cost isn't rediculous and that the base station doesn't look like some kinda fruit or anything weird.:)
 

balamw

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I really hope they include a user-installable 802.11n Airport card for those of us with pre-intel machines.
Only C2D intel machines may have preN, there are plenty of us Core Duo owners that are left out in the cold too. I wish they'd just sell a cheap little box that does Ethernet to X2 or X4 (like the various bridges/gaming adapters).

How is X2 or X4 600 Mbps? Wouldn't that be like X12 (12*50 = 300)?
Do they teach arithmetic down under? 300/50=6, usually. :p

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Digital Skunk

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I hope Apple dont shoot themselves in the foot with this and the 'iTV'. From what I can gather the iTV will require 802.11n to work effectively at high bandwidth but this will limit to people who have bought a mac within the last few months. I either hope they release a 802.11n card which is compatible with the extreme cards or they have some other fancy way of getting around it!

I think the current macs all have the 802.11n card installed... or so I thought. That was a big rumor after the WWDC in 05 when iTV was brought to light.
 

R.Youden

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It seems to coincide with an updated preview of the iTV. It would go hand in hand with Apple stating all the things the iTV can do with wireless media transmission and all. Then Jobs will introduce the hub with which all that high quality media can be streamed back and forth.

I just hope that the cost isn't rediculous and that the base station doesn't look like some kinda fruit or anything weird.:)

Make it banana shapped and also a skype phone....

gmix_banana_phone.jpg
 

~Shard~

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I'll be most interested in finding out the cost of this new Airport, as n-based routers and so forth are still relatively pricey, and whether or not n cards will be available for users with older Macs. You'd think they would have to be, otherwise Apple would be alienating the majority of its user base.
 

Sun Baked

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The n-based cards without the Base Stations, firmware updates, and drivers were sort of pointless and have begged "when?" for a long time.

Hopefully soon... as a verbal slip in a matter of hours.
 

curmi

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Only C2D intel machines may have preN, there are plenty of us Core Duo owners that are left out in the cold too. I wish they'd just sell a cheap little box that does Ethernet to X2 or X4 (like the various bridges/gaming adapters).


Do they teach arithmetic down under? 300/50=6, usually. :p

B

:) Anyway, you know what I mean. 12*50 =600. X2 and X4 seem like odd names in that case.

I wouldn't mind something with an extra ethernet port or two. Or an Express Ultra with an ethernet out on it...
 
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