Same. I charged my 12 with a MagSafe charger, and it seemed to trash the battery sooner. On the 15 since September and it's 100% too.
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AirPower Prototype Seen Charging Apple Watch for First Time
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I really don’t understand the rationale behind some of these posts and heat.
Yes, excessive heat can lead to battery degradation. But Apple and all the main OEM’s have been wirelessly charging for years now. Their battery chemistry is already formulated with that in mind.
Yes, excessive heat can lead to battery degradation. But Apple and all the main OEM’s have been wirelessly charging for years now. Their battery chemistry is already formulated with that in mind.
Battery chemistry isn’t “formulated” to better handle being cooked. A better way to describe the acceptance of wireless charging is that these companies believe you will buy a new device (or at least a new battery) before wireless charging cooks your battery too much.
…battery chemistries are tweaked for their desired characteristics all the time. That’s how the battery industry works, very similar to glass. You add or remove compounds to the formulation (usually in the electrolyte) to get a desired characteristics.
It’s literally an entire field in industry.
AirPower: the only true example of Apple vaporware.
(The Car was never announced or promised, so it doesn't count!)
(The Car was never announced or promised, so it doesn't count!)
I have the Zens charger mat (AirPower without watch mat charging) and it works perfectly... however it does have a fan... I guess that the fan was the deal killer (note I use it on my desk not nightstand, it's not noisy, but does make noise).
Was so hoping Apple could sort this out, but I'm guessing those pesky laws of physics get in the way... and no amount of lobbying money can change those laws.
Was so hoping Apple could sort this out, but I'm guessing those pesky laws of physics get in the way... and no amount of lobbying money can change those laws.
Apple can let you charge AirPods Pro 2 with the Watch puck, Qi, and iPhone MagSafe. But on Watch, it's a hardware limitation because of its size?
Please.
This is by design and choice to earn Apple royalties on every sale of third-party AW chargers -Don't want to pay Apple? Your third-party charger is blocked.
Apple is a monopoly and tech monopolies ❤️ proprietary tech to price gauge both the third-party accessory makers and consumers.
Just as Lightning ports/cables, Apple Watch chargers are arbitrarily proprietary by design, for profit.
You don't get to a trillion dollars by using or making your tech open source, or by pricing your proprietary products fairly.
Not a real picture. The Apple Watches today have bands that do not unfold like the picture. The whole concept to include an Apple Watch fails over the band. Apple would not miss that point. The consumers are not going to detach one end of their Apple Watches band to charge them. Now the other problem with this design, Apple iPhone. Does not support nightstand. I for one like nightstand. If Apple came out with this design, they may just have lost their minds.
Now I'm that annoying friend that tells his friends to avoid wireless charging so they can keep their devices longer. A shame there isn't a better method for the apple watch as I have a 6 and its at 80% battery health.
😂
Please cite to costs for MFI program licensing when it comes to watches (or anything for that matter).
Apple, just rolling in the cash because of Apple Watch charger royalties 😂😂😂
Apple could not do a wireless charger, whomever in management though they could do a car is really in la-la land.
Apple can barely build a working music app for macOS, the chances of them ever pulling off a car was always approximately zero 👍
there are times I really really wish I had a facepalm reaction emoji. It was clearly sarcasm, but there is a real point. It wasn't a technical issue per se but a danger of over heating and in today's litigious society sometimes we cant have good things.
It was working. It got canned by lawyers, which is always the last step in a review process.
This was a fire hazard according to lawyers, not a battery degradation issue per se. So given the flack they got over 'battery gate' don't blame them for being concerned on that front too.
MagSafe is the superior product. Alignment is the most annoying part of Qi charging, and MagSafe solved that. I can put my phone, watch, and airpods on the charger, on the nightstand, in pitch darkness, thanks to the magnets in my 3-in-1, and that's all I need. In no way whatsoever would an AirPower-type device be superior to that experience at this point. Move on.
I use the Tesla charging platforms whose size makes them convenient. I still must carefully seat the watch on its charger. I won’t replace the AW once it dies. I’ll just go back to tapping my phone or card. The only feature on the AW I’ll miss are the haptic alerts while driving and using Apple Maps.
I remember reading about that as well. The comment you quoted was me referring to multiple posts in this thread about wireless charging’s heat being a major source of battery degradation. That may have been the case in the 1st or 2nd gen of wireless charging, but the industry as a whole isn’t wirelessly charging without accounting for that in their battery chemistries almost an entire decade later.
Thanks I must have missed that, but either way it wasn't ready as a saleable product, clearly. Should never have been announced until it was. I'm not suggesting it's crime of the century or anything, just embarrassing 👍
I have to agree with you there, they even had printed up boxes etc, and it was listed on other product boxes. Must have been a very convincing lawyer. Ah well.
The batteries have to be quite hot to degrade. Basically the quicker you charge, by whatever method (cable or wireless), the worse. That's why good fast charging battery management systems still slows down before the battery is full and reaches full charge at lower rate.
I have several Qi pads so I top up often, it's so easy dropping my phone on the Qi when I work by my desk, my batteries last for 4years plus. It also helps that since I work on a computer I rarely need my phone during the day, total charging cycles are still the most important.
I think the "it" the OP was referring to was MagSafe - in other words, you both agree that it is the superior product.