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It sounds to me that he’s doing great job as a parent. Providing a comfortable life and guiding them through life.

My ex and I use the app to keep and eye on our youngest. He’s a new driver. App gives us a weekly report of his trips and speeds. Has collision alerts.

My oldest uses it for safety reasons. He doesn’t share locations. He’s 19. Lives at
Home. Goes to community college for electrical engineering. He can keep the collision alerts on.

It’s not about tracking. It’s about safety.

Keep believing that.

Never forget that you are tracking them, and it's extremely likely that others are too. I contributed my DNA to an organization that promised me that they would only do 'research' with my data, and would tell me if anyone else was related to me. Except that data was dumped into a bucket that was delivered to a 'national clearinghouse' for DNA data. My data is 'out there'. Not that I'm a criminal (that I know of), but if someone in LE decides that I am a criminal, they have all the data to make people believe that I am.

I don't have an Alexa unit because there are no current laws covering what they can do with every thing that they hear while the unit of plugged in. I would seriously doubt that there are any laws covering what 'someone' (Corporations are people) can do with your data.

Do not trust people pushing technology at you to 'make you feel safe'. Fearful people will give away their freedom to feel 'safe'. People nearly gave away the whole bag, to make themselves feel safe. With no laws covering the use of that data. DO NOT TRUST SO EASILY. Who runs the company? Who are the investors? Do you know anything about the company? If it were MY kid, I'd be damned if I would be so careless as to trust some company with MY CHILD, and MY privacy... I don't trust technology, and I've been int he industry for over 45 years. Ever heard about the movie where the aliens come and land, and they are here 'to serve man'? To serve man FOR DINNER!!!
 
Still: DISTRACTED!
Yeah I live in the real world. Everything is a distraction. A distraction for 1 second is better than constant 85 on a freeway for a young driver. Radio is a distraction, Drinking or eating is a distraction. Talking to a passenger is a distraction. And on and on. So yes driving alone in silence in a car is ideal but not realistic.
 
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Can't wait to see a generation of clinically paranoid young adults in the late 2020s

A friend of mine was in the Psych residency at the medical school in the university I went to. He said that so many people were 'warped' by the show 'The Brady Bunch' and the psychiatry branch of medicine benefited from it, and many shows. So I aksed him what he donated, per year, to the producers of that show. He paused for an awkward amount of seconds, and burst out laughing. We became pretty good friends. He thought it was too funny, and agreed that the many 'shrinks' actually SHOULD donate money back to the creators of the show. We figured they didn't make enough money, likely, and should be recognized for creating a generation of people convinced they were cheated out of the Brady childhood (tm)...

Too funny...
 
Sure sure. You probably had a camera in the car to check on their texting behaviour.
Who knows. I do know the car has text to voice. Can I guarantee it gets used each and every time? Nope. Still I'll take a glance at a text over 85 at night for a newer driver. I have been in the car before when a text comes through and it reads it automatically.

However you pretty much prove my point which is no 18 year old can be trusted to make good decisions each and every time. So when a poster says you don't trust your 18 year old the answer is I don't trust any 18 year old.
 
1. Someone could have replied with some or none. My guess is none.
I've bolded the pertinent information.
2. I, and another poster, already mentioned that neither of us pay for the service
3. I use the version that provides what I am looking for. it happens to be free. if it wasn't free I would pay for it.
OK, how do I sign up for free?
5. Sure he/she is.
I really don't care if the million dollar man with the average kids believes me. In the words of the great Hitch, "that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
 
I've bolded the pertinent information.

OK, how do I sign up for free?

I really don't care if the million dollar man with the average kids believes me. In the words of the great Hitch, "that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
Simply download the app and sign up for it. Thanks for the laugh regarding your fictional situation at the end. Yeah your kid is brilliant but his dad couldn't figure out how to get an app for free and sign up. Sure pal.

From their website

Yes! Our basic service is 100% free of charge to download and use. We also offer three paid memberships: Life360 Silver, Gold, and Platinum that give you more of the features and benefits you love.


FeaturesBasic/Free PlanPlus PlanDriver Protect Plan
Location SharingYesYesYesYes
Battery MonitoringYesYesYesYes
Location EstimationYesYesYesYes
Help AlertYesYesYesYes
Location HistoryNoFor 30 DaysFor 30 DaysFor 30 Days
Crime ReportsNoNoYesNo
Crash DetectionNoNoYesNo
Emergency ResponseNoNoYesNo
Roadside AssistanceNoNoYesNo
Driver ReportNoNoYesYes


Next time ask your fictional pre med kid to show you how to use google. I have no clue if my kids are average, below average or above average. What I do know is that they are setup for success and shouldn't have to worry about money for the rest of their lives.
 
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Who knows. I do know the car has text to voice. Can I guarantee it gets used each and every time? Nope. Still I'll take a glance at a text over 85 at night for a newer driver. I have been in the car before when a text comes through and it reads it automatically.

However you pretty much prove my point which is no 18 year old can be trusted to make good decisions each and every time. So when a poster says you don't trust your 18 year old the answer is I don't trust any 18 year old.

The car has 'text to voice'? And I'll bet it vacuumed their contact list too. My car wants my contact list. The dealer has a utility that will download that data and send it to the manufacturer. I never trust car head units. Plus I've rented cars with the contact lists of previous renters still in it!!! OMG!!! It's gotten so easy, TOO easy to expose ALL of our data, our lives to soulless corporations who have no laws governing what they will do with that. I use a data blocker with all rental cars, and when charging while traveling. It is WAY TOO EASY to steal data from people, and in many situations, you have no clue who has your data, and what they might use it for. YIKES!!!
 
The car has 'text to voice'? And I'll bet it vacuumed their contact list too. My car wants my contact list. The dealer has a utility that will download that data and send it to the manufacturer. I never trust car head units. Plus I've rented cars with the contact lists of previous renters still in it!!! OMG!!! It's gotten so easy, TOO easy to expose ALL of our data, our lives to soulless corporations who have no laws governing what they will do with that. I use a data blocker with all rental cars, and when charging while traveling. It is WAY TOO EASY to steal data from people, and in many situations, you have no clue who has your data, and what they might use it for. YIKES!!!
Yes. Lots of cars have text to voice now. Sorry but you are a little too paranoid for me. Track away as far as I am concerned, I couldn't care less. Maybe you are that important that you think all these companies need to know about you. I am not important or interesting enough for anyone to care. As another poster wrote I actually like ads targeting me and what I am interested in. I have found numerous things I have bought that I never would have had I not been targeted. Certain clothes, gadgets, and accessories.
 
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Who knows. I do know the car has text to voice. Can I guarantee it gets used each and every time? Nope. Still I'll take a glance at a text over 85 at night for a newer driver. I have been in the car before when a text comes through and it reads it automatically.

However you pretty much prove my point which is no 18 year old can be trusted to make good decisions each and every time. So when a poster says you don't trust your 18 year old the answer is I don't trust any 18 year old.

I assure you, I don’t trust young drivers much myself. I even got t-boned off the road in a pretty heavy accident by a young lady who ignored a stop sign. She got out of the wreck that used to be her vehicle and said: “sorry, I was just texting my mom”…

Crazy stuff will always happen I guess, there’s no ultimate security.
 
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Yeah I live in the real world. Everything is a distraction. A distraction for 1 second is better than constant 85 on a freeway for a young driver. Radio is a distraction, Drinking or eating is a distraction. Talking to a passenger is a distraction. And on and on. So yes driving alone in silence in a car is ideal but not realistic.

Decades ago, after I had my first iPhone, I was distracted for a second or two, and nearly ran over a curb and into the front yard of a hotel that I was absolutely positive I was going to miss. I was DISTRACTED, and would have cost me one, if not two rims, and possible tires. No humans would have been involved, but I was so shocked at what happened in that 'second of distraction' that I took using that 'thing' a heck of a lot more seriously. I then took ground school, and the one mantra that the instructor drilled into us was 'FLY THE PLANE!!!', meaning that no matter what happened, it was our responsibility to us, any passengers, and anyone on the ground, to 'FLY THE PLANE', and not get distracted in the minutia of whatever else is going on around us in the cockpit. FLY THE PLANE!!! We studied cases where pilots caused the deaths of hundreds of human beings because they were, in one case, fiddling with a $0.50 light bulb!

FLY THE PLANE, became DRIVE THE CAR! I am behind the wheel of a weapon, one that can kill untold numbers of people if I am 'distracted'. Even talking on a hands free cell phone can be distracting enough to cause an accident.
 
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I assure you, I don’t trust young drivers much myself. I even got t-boned off the road in a pretty heavy accident by a young lady who ignored a stop sign. She got out of the wreck that used to be her vehicle and said: “sorry, I was just texting my mom”…

Crazy stuff will always happen I guess, there’s no ultimate security.

A friend of mine, pre-pandemic, was waxing about 'terrorists', and how they took precautions and 'felt safe'.

I had been having a discussion with a group a few days prior, and we agreed that 'safe' was an illusion.

I started along the conversation I had previously had, and said that there are no guarantees. 'Take a two-lane road. Someone can just swerve into your lane. No reason, except mad/mean/crazy. Someone could slam on their brakes. Someone could shoot from a car. Some one could rear-end them. Someone could be alongside them, and swerve into them. Some could swerve off of an overpass, or, more likely throw something off of an overpass. And those are just a sample of the badness... One accident I read about involved a woman driving one way on a divided highway, 6 foot median wall, and a tire came off a trailer, bounced over the wall, and hit her car, directly in the diver side windshield. *BOOM*, she was gone. Freak accident.

Human life is so fragile. SOOOOO fragile. Incredibly so. Yeah, where is no ultimate security. Even driving yourself ona beautiful day with little traffic. Enjoy the life you have, everyone reading this, because it's so precious...
 
However you pretty much prove my point which is no 18 year old can be trusted to make good decisions each and every time. So when a poster says you don't trust your 18 year old the answer is I don't trust any 18 year old.

Yeah, that’s not a creepy thing to say at all, as a parent.
 
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Yeah, that’s not a creepy thing to say at all, as a parent.
Wait. Saying I don't trust any 18 year old to make good decisions each and every time they make a decision is creepy? Wow that is a reach. May want to apply some self reflection if you think that is a creepy statement.
 
Using a piece of technology to track your adult kid because you don’t trust them? I’m not sure what other adjective one would use.
Again if you had kids you would realize that they don't stop being your kid when they are 18. You should do you. Anytime you want to compare lives let me know. I can pretty reasonably say that there is likely no facet of your life you have exceeded mine so until then you should focus on you. When you get to my level then go ahead and start critiquing. It says more about you that you think any 18 year old is trustworthy. I'll repeat again. There is no 18 year old that I trust in this world. If you also did an ounce of research you would see that there are other reasons to use life360 other than to track them, but I know caring about eh safety of your adult child is creepy.

On a side not when I look at the world and wonder why so many people struggle all iI have to do is come look at some responses on this forum and it makes sense a lot more.
 
Again if you had kids you would realize that they don't stop being your kid when they are 18. You should do you. Anytime you want to compare lives let me know. I can pretty reasonably say that there is likely no facet of your life you have exceeded mine so until then you should focus on you. When you get to my level then go ahead and start critiquing. It says more about you that you think any 18 year old is trustworthy. I'll repeat again. There is no 18 year old that I trust in this world. If you also did an ounce of research you would see that there are other reasons to use life360 other than to track them, but I know caring about eh safety of your adult child is creepy.

On a side not when I look at the world and wonder why so many people struggle all iI have to do is come look at some responses on this forum and it makes sense a lot more.

You really are *something*. I feel abjectly sorry for your kid(s).

I know MANY people that aren't even through puberty that I would trust over many I know that are older, and some even more successful than me. But, wow, keep urinating on everyone in your life, because it is 'golden', isn't it?

Tracking anything more than a dog, or luggage is warped. Tracking kids? Tracking spouses? I mean, if my world was that unstable, and I was sure that I was the only meaningful person in it, I would actually doubt that I'd have kids. I hope you can deal with your ego, and need to control people. Enjoy your 'life'... You are BLOCKED from mine! Bye bye...
 
You really are *something*. I feel abjectly sorry for your kid(s).

I know MANY people that aren't even through puberty that I would trust over many I know that are older, and some even more successful than me. But, wow, keep urinating on everyone in your life, because it is 'golden', isn't it?

Tracking anything more than a dog, or luggage is warped. Tracking kids? Tracking spouses? I mean, if my world was that unstable, and I was sure that I was the only meaningful person in it, I would actually doubt that I'd have kids. I hope you can deal with your ego, and need to control people. Enjoy your 'life'... You are BLOCKED from mine! Bye bye...
My bad. You mistook me for someone that you thought valued your opinion. Lol a the remarks. Unstable? I don't owe a dime to anyone in the world and can function for decades without income. It doesn't get more stable than that. Also I could not care less if my spouse knows where I am, nor she could not care less either because we have nothing to hide. I don't do anything unscrupulous that I worry about being tracked. The funny thing is that 99% of the time I, and pretty much everyone I know who uses life360, don't do it for trust issues. They do it for convenience issues.

You are correct that I have an ego. I have one because I can because I have actually accomplished something in life.

Funny but my wife dropped my oldest off at college this afternoon after the break. Popped 360 open to see when she was about an hour or so out I could make sure dinner was planned per her arrival. My 10 year old runs around our neighborhood and did so today. He goes from various houses to various houses. At any given time I knew where he was rather than having to figure out what friend's house he was at.

The fact you won't care for your kids or spouse enough to be willing to do these things is a you problem, not a me problem.
 
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The car has 'text to voice'? And I'll bet it vacuumed their contact list too. My car wants my contact list. The dealer has a utility that will download that data and send it to the manufacturer. I never trust car head units. Plus I've rented cars with the contact lists of previous renters still in it!!! OMG!!! It's gotten so easy, TOO easy to expose ALL of our data, our lives to soulless corporations who have no laws governing what they will do with that. I use a data blocker with all rental cars, and when charging while traveling. It is WAY TOO EASY to steal data from people, and in many situations, you have no clue who has your data, and what they might use it for. YIKES!!!
Keep living that life scared to walk around and enjoy it
 
Do you have children? I curious about the people who are dead set against it.

Yup I do. Do I need a notification when they drive faster than what I have in mind? No.

I grew up well without that level of micromanaging and I’m sure plenty others too.
That doesn’t mean I don’t expect my kids to make mistakes, as humans we learn from mistakes and gain experience.

And as mentioned above, I was already knocked of the road in a bad accident by a child that was on the phone with their parents while driving. If anything, let’s make sure young drivers can focus on the road and get rid of texting and talking while driving. That’s what’s killing others out there.
 
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