Which makes sense in a certain PoV. If the company phone is an iPhone, then one might want to diversify and use something else for their personal phone. Notably things not available from an iPhone.Yeah the Apple Ecosystem is foreign for a lot of them since a lot of federal employees are Android users, which is funny since our government furnished phones are all iPhones.
I'm a sysadmin for a federal data center that hosts several of the US government's websites such as the VA, Medicare, the IRS, and more. What I just told y'all is not confidential information. We're not the War Thunder forums lmao
This is how you lose that job. Posting stuff like this on the internet makes you a target and depending on what you’ve said over time across various places, you create risk. If you actually have this job and don’t understand why this is an issue, you are going to get yourself in trouble. We’ve terminated techs for this sort of stuff in the MSP world,as MSPs are huge targets. Don’t underestimate the ability of people who want to find you or where you work. Wanting to sound relevant, important, or cool isn’t worth it and you may accidentally expose something you don’t realize is important to someone. That comment might be used to prove something in the case against those people (or create doubt about something) and lets them off. You just don’t know.I'm a sysadmin for a federal data center that hosts several of the US government's websites such as the VA, Medicare, the IRS, and more. What I just told y'all is not confidential information. We're not the War Thunder forums lmao
It's 2023, every cellphone has GPS inside these days, even dumb ones.You're already tracked via your cellphone number and cell tower triangulation. Airtags would be the least of my worries here.
That would only track the phone. The AirTag tracks the package, which in itself, is the evidence.You're already tracked via your cellphone number and cell tower triangulation. Airtags would be the least of my worries here.
Scott Seiss, is that you? 😆Soon someone will discover a bear that died from ingesting 34 kilos of AirTags.
Dude, that's so 90's.You're already tracked via your cellphone number and cell tower triangulation. Airtags would be the least of my worries here.
Well if your dog gets into sniffing cocaine, then I think you’d be alright to track.
It’ll never be as “good” as the original ☹️Cocaine dog just may be a thing watch out.
There are not a lot of intelligent people working in the gov't, especially when it comes to protecting their own information in the cyber realm.That’s surprising, I thought everyone in government/military used iPhones due to security.
Very unlikely adjustment by Apple. Feds wanted to find where the package goes. Package has an address on it, obviously, but apparently that wasn't good enough. Probably because package was being sent to some sort of package receiving business. Maybe it pings someone's iPhone at that store, but what can they do? The whole building is filled with packages and none of them are for the guy working at the store. Feds watch the package get picked up and driven back to some location, then bust that location.Removing the speaker is a big help because if the AirTag is away from it's owner for a period of time it starts chirping. This won't stop tracking notifications sent to someone with an iPhone but maybe it's possible Apple could disable that on the back end. Maybe some deal with the feds so they'll leave iCloud alone for now 🤣
I don't think you can but this was just to track it though some shipping method. Maybe they were hoping the courier didn't have an iPhone. It is possible they had Apple deactivate this feature for that AirTag but we'll never know.
It would have to be some lazy drug dealers not to notice. “WTF is that beeping?!”
But on the flip side, wouldn’t the courier have to have an iPhone for the tracking to work?
This seems to be the major weakness. Someone near that package had an iPhone or it wouldn’t have worked. And if they had an iPhone it should have alerted them.
Tell us you have no experience with AirTags without actually saying so...
#1 - the alert beep is not constant, and the speaker is easily disabled making the AirTag virtually silent.
#2 - no need for the courier to have an iphone, there's lots of iphones driving up and down every street in the US
#3 - alerts to an unknown airtag are not immediate; can take several hours of the AirTag being nearby to occur - by which time the location is already noted on Apple's servers and available as the "last seen" location.
That sounds like an incredible experience to be a part of!We've actually started using AirTags in the federal government not too long ago. I was actually part of the process into getting them approved as our national cybersecurity team in DC came to me since I'm the only Apple Sheep in our data center so they wanted to know more about AirTags.
Yeah the Apple Ecosystem is foreign for a lot of them since a lot of federal employees are Android users, which is funny since our government furnished phones are all iPhones.
This seems to fly in the face of all the anti-stalking measures.
But reading between the lines it seems it was only in the package while it was in transit with the postal service.
It would have to be some lazy drug dealers not to notice. “WTF is that beeping?!”
Package couriers are generally surrounded by hundreds of packages at any given time so a notification wouldn't offer much help to anyone. This story works the other way around too. We work with law enforcement that need to track AirTags in packages being used illegally by drug dealers too. Except what do you do when you have an entire warehouse full of unopened packages and a few of them have AirTags hidden inside? You don't wait for Apple's notifications and try to hear a chime. You hire my company to figure out Apple's algorithm and invent an AirTag (also works with Tile, Samsung, Chipolo, etc.) detector with direction finding capabilities. https://www.bvsystems.com/product/bluesleuth-pro-bluetooth-and-ble-device-locator/How do they get around the "an AirTag is with you" notification?
Pop it open, remove the speaker, snap it shut, and away we go.How do they get around the "an AirTag is with you" notification?
Apple is too restrictive for them loading their own code? I'll bet if Apple allowed side loading, that would change......
Yeah the Apple Ecosystem is foreign for a lot of them since a lot of federal employees are Android users, which is funny since our government furnished phones are all iPhones.