His friend did not receive notifications by design, as the Airtag was not moving with him, but sitting on a table.
Imagine a criminal who spots a nice car in a car park for example…slips an airtag underneath it and finds out where it’s kept overnight.
Yes, or you could see it get taken away by the bin lorry after they've left it in the bin on collection day.I wonder if you put an AirTag in a package and got Hermes to deliver it, would you be able to track it accurately as it sailed over your fence and landed in your neighbour's back garden? 🤔
Seems like a viable attack. It would be pretty easy to hide the tag inside something.I could imagine a circumstance where a youtuber (or other semi-private person) let's fans send letters and packages to a PO Box (not their home address, to keep it secret) and unknowingly gets sent an AirTag.
Rather easy to do and hide, and suddenly that person has a stalker who knows where they live.
Correct. They state that it notifies you that an unknown tag is traveling with you.Seems like if the AirTag was left on the table for 3 days, it's not actually tracking anyone. The anti-tracking may take into account that the package receiver's iPhone has moved out of range from the AirTag in question several times, is therefore not on that person's person, and did not warn them.
If we are to believe movies, private detectives (let alone governments) have been able to do this for decades already. What differentiates Airtags from existing trackers that they combine good coverage with very long battery life. Tiles had long battery life since the beginning but pretty limited coverage (my main expectation for Tiles was that they could tell me where and when my phone last saw the Tile). Cellular phone network based trackers had good coverage but limited battery life.Mmmm. So my Android using brother wouldn’t know if I stuck an AirTag in his car to track his movements…
Just kidding of course, but this could be really creepy. Imagine a criminal who spots a nice car in a car park for example…slips an airtag underneath it and finds out where it’s kept overnight.
How? The guy doesn't know any of the postal worker's name or information. He is just tracking his package!this violates the privacy of postal workers! (just getting in the complaining line — pay no mind)
You can only track AirTags linked to your AppleID.I’ve got a bad feeling about this
Yes you can track your lost keys … and it seems that everyone can track anyone ?!
All the mobile platforms are using crowdsourcing - that's how stuff like the traffic congestion view works in both Google Maps and Apple Maps. I think I saw something about one or the other putting an atmospheric pressure sensor in phones and using that to increase the resolution for weather sensing. Yes, I guess you could say that this is "using the users", but it's really using a network effect to provide a service that everyone can benefit from.So apple is "using" users, imo that is worse than being a "product" for sale.
Sure but for that you only need a few days of battery life. Dog trackers using a cellular modem could have been used for that for a couple of years already. Yes they are larger and more expensive, but for the purpose you have just outlined that is not a big hurdle.I could imagine a circumstance where a youtuber (or other semi-private person) let's fans send letters and packages to a PO Box (not their home address, to keep it secret) and unknowingly gets sent an AirTag.
Rather easy to do and hide, and suddenly that person has a stalker who knows where they live.
Though the density of Apple devices is likely low in most parts of Africa.A few months ago I sold my old car with a diesel engine to a guy for €1000. When the money was handed over, he told me that the car would be shipped to Africa and driven on there.
If there had been Airtags at that time, I would have liked to follow the way to Africa and beyond.
So you’re saying that the delivery driver starts opening up all the packages to look for an AirTag? Erm no. You do realise to disable it, you have to remove the battery right.The real issue would be the iphone carrying delivery driver getting a notification that air tags are following him and he disables them!
Can you legally track something that no longer belongs to you?A few months ago I sold my old car with a diesel engine to a guy for €1000. When the money was handed over, he told me that the car would be shipped to Africa and driven on there.
If there had been Airtags at that time, I would have liked to follow the way to Africa and beyond.
Well, he'd have to open all of the packages containing AirTags in order to do that. Contrary to a popular myth that made the rounds right after the AirTag was announced, there's no "remote disable" feature. What Apple does is provide instructions on how to manually disable the AirTag.The real issue would be the iphone carrying delivery driver getting a notification that air tags are following him and he disables them!
Not three days if they were carrying an iPhone. We don't know how quickly a notification shows up, but it's clearly based more on location and distance than time, so a delivery driver might see one in only a couple of hours as they were driving around. Maybe even sooner if they went near one of their frequent locations.I thought of that too, but it would require a single iPhone-carrying delivery driver to maintain contact with the AirTag for three days straight. I don't think that's a likely scenario.
That's actually normal behaviour. AirTags don't notify anybody if they're simply lost. The original owner can track them down or make them play a sound, but they otherwise remain passive.I’ve seen other people report their AirTag doesn’t alert a nearby iPhone if it’s lost. I don’t know if these are isolated issues, defective AirTags, a known issue or a common problem that needs fixing by Apple.
1. If someone uses a PO Box for their business, people can now work out where they live.What potential harm is there? If you have someone’s HOME ADDRESS there is not a lot of harm in sending a tracker to the house in the mail. It will simply show the airtag being at the address you gave.
You don’t get a letter or package and keep it your car. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Once the package is opened, the gig is up.
This. People who are going to conduct these kinds of tests should at least educate themselves on how AirTags work 😏His friend did not receive notifications by design, as the Airtag was not moving with him, but sitting on a table.
So you think AirTag is the first remote tracking device that could be used in this manner?1. If someone uses a PO Box for their business, people can now work out where they live.
2. Stick a bomb in the parcel too and use your remote tracking to time perfectly when to set it off.
So you’re saying that the delivery driver starts opening up all the packages to look for an AirTag? Erm no. You do realise to disable it, you have to remove the battery right.
I think he's saying that if the postal delivery person has an iPhone, the feature which notifies him that an Airtag is traveling with him will be activated, and he will be given the option on his phone to disable them.Well, he'd have to open all of the packages containing AirTags in order to do that. Contrary to a popular myth that made the rounds right after the AirTag was announced, there's no "remote disable" feature. What Apple does is provide instructions on how to manually disable the AirTag.
In other words, it just tells you to remove the battery, and shows you how to do it.
Except in this case, an iPhone user would likely be alerted to the presence of the AirTag, because they would be moving with it from the PO Box back to their home.1. If someone uses a PO Box for their business, people can now work out where they live.