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Well now we all know steve is dem.

I don't want a political discussion here people.

I want to know, what ideas does he bring to the board. And no 'the internet' is not an option.

He funded groups that made TCP/IP... yada yada yada gore invented the internet. No he funded the makers of the basic internet.

Whatever, I want to know since he is a mac user what he wants, sure its gonna be some features here or there that he wants but what else?

I mean, what do I want to see him do? Nothing really. I want him to take his shares and his coushy job and stay there are give some advice to apple.
 
Disgusting!!!

If Apple needs some push from the politics guys, it's a pitty.

Do they need to go so low?

Apple is in such a trouble?

Historically Apple is (was) against anything called Big Brother. Hope this was not only IBM😀 😀 😀

As I said Disgusting😡 😡 😡
 
iGore?

I wonder, will there will be a new line of products called iGore?

Or perhaps rename eMac as eGore?

🙂
Just kidding...
Darby
 
And in theese times a Politic association is a is not really a good move!

Apple has a disrespect to his custommers.

This is maybe another reason to switch to Wintel (another Big Brother?)🙁
 
this thread has exposed how unbeleivably immature some of the people are over here. Are these people like 6 years old and retarded?

whaaaa! gore's dumb! whaaaaa!

*sucking thumb*
*thinking*
*taking thumb out of mouth*

whaaaa! gore's mom wears combat boots! whaaaa!

*sucking thumb*
*thinking really hard*
*taking thumb out of mouth*

whaaa! there's a war on! waaaaaa! this is unpatriotic! waaaaaaaa!

*accidentally sticking thumb in nose instead of mouth*

whaaaaaaaa!
 
On topic . . .

To bring this back to the real subject of the thread, and not a political battle.

MAYBE Apple has hired Al Gore to be the TV spokesperson for the release of the new 15 inch Al books?

It all makes perfect sense!!!

(Come on, someone had to think of this bad joke before me!)
 
There are a lot of people who may scoff at the idea of Al Gore on the board, but consider one thing...

Only a very, very, very few living people have the ability to get access to some of the most powerful people in this country, including GWB, without a very important reason, and Gore is one of them.

I wouldn't care if it was GWB Sr. or Gore or even Dan Quail, having an ex-VP on the board will be good for business.
 
Holy crap!

What the??? Al Gore...at Apple? It seems like some kind of joke...how could Jobs have picked someone so out of touch with America? Geez...😕
 
Re: The real question is...

Originally posted by Nuc
How much do you think they will be paying him for his supposed "expertise"? My thoughts are probably to much...... He would probably be a better sales person at the Apple stores than he would be as member of the board of directors.

Unlike corporate officers (CEO, CFO, etc.), corporate board members (a.k.a. directors) generally don't receive a salary, or any other form of monetary compensation for their service, apart from travel expenses and such. 🙂

That's not to say that there aren't significant benefits that accompany the position (e.g. CONNECTIONS).
 
It seems most of us would rather act like children and bicker than see what actually comes of this.

In response to a note above: I am also a shareholder who had no chance to vote on this matter. SO WHAT? A move like this is partially successful as a result of surprise. I see much room for improvement in Apple's business, but I don't complain and belittle their decisions without seeing the consequences first.

Everyone here would do well to keep politics and perceived media image out of their posts. You know as little about this man's ability to work with Apple as I know about kangaroos.

BTW - How much you wanna bet that 95% of the posts in this thread were premature to reading the press release on Apple's site? After seeing that Gore uses FinalCut, appreciates X and sees the importance of open-source, my respect for him has grown ten-fold.

Dan
 
OOOOOOOooooh! He uses "Final Cut Pro." Now THAT makes him qualified for the job?

No, the only thing that "qualifies" him for the job is the fact that he's an out-of-work, used-up, chad-counting has-been and Jobs is going to use him every way that he can to suck up to politicos.
 
Firstly, I don't see how this is bad. It's good. A high profile man with a lot of connections.

Republicn mac users, why the cynicism? Do you not realize Steve is democrat?

And to all the idiots who keep fretting 'he invented the internet, blah, blah, educate yourselves before showing your lack of:

Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Taken in context, the sentence, despite some initial ambiguity, means that as a congressman Gore promoted the system we enjoy today, not that he could patent the science, though that's how the quotation has been manipulated. Hence the disingenuous substitution of "inventing" for the actual language.

But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."

The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today."

Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"
 
Re: Holy crap!

Originally posted by macfreak
What the??? Al Gore...at Apple? It seems like some kind of joke...how could Jobs have picked someone so out of touch with America? Geez...😕

You would do good to share points as to why you think he's out of touch with America...Did he not lead in helping to fund this very outlet your typing thru? If anything, "Legislating Different" got him here...Don't you think? 😱
 
Well, I've said all I have to say on the matter. I'm not going to continue ranting and raving.

All I can say is that on every single Mac BBS site that I look at, an overwhelming 9 to 1 HATE the idea that Apple put Bore -- er, I mean, Gore -- on the board.

I will not buy another Apple product, period. I'm done. And a lot of other people won't either. It's not just this decision, it's because EVERY single Apple product I've owned for the past 18 months has had SERIOUS flaws and problems. Every single one of them. eMacs with raster shift problems that required multiple CRT replacements. Titaniums with chipping and peeling paint and cracking hinges. Power Macs with bad power supplies. Power Macs that sounded like jet engines. Cubes with cracking cases. And then Apple has the gall to charge for iTools just so that Steve can have a new 140 MILLION dollar jet or so he can lend his buddy at Apple 1.5 million to buy a new house.

Now I hear that the new 12-inch Powerbooks warp when they get hot and that people buying the 17-inch Powerbooks can't stand the smell (macintouch.com for those who want to check it out).

Steve Jobs is making bad decisions and I'm not paying for it anymore.

Good luck.
 
Originally posted by Kid Red
Republicn mac users, why the cynicism? Do you not realize Steve is democrat?
haha! nice! it'd be hilarious to see a guy who was like, yeah, i am a republican, but my mac here's a Yellow Dog Democrat now that Al is here! it was ever since the mac was invented, but i'm just going to disregard that!
 
Run for President...or FREE MACS!!!

Hell, if I had that choice I'd take the free Macs too!

I think it's great to have someone so high-profile on the board. Good press. From a constructive point of view, I've always seen him as a very by-the-book guy. I suspect he'll work hard towards change in some structure and other issues the board have been criticized for (like Steve's jet). The risky part is if he sees something he doesn't like and resigns as a result, that's bad press.

I think some will buy Macs as a result, and some won't. Both are bad decisions. Buy Macs because it's the best computer, or buy Wintel cuz you're a weenie. If you're making a decision like that because of one employee (even a Director) you deserve a 286.
 
he's just a figurehead who's on the board. he can't really do any harm.

no problems with this conservative.

😀
 
Re: The internet as we know it?

Originally posted by chubakka
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Iniative is not the same as invent... although Bush probably has problems distinguishing the two...

And Al was on the committee the oversaw the funding that built the infrastructure that is the internet today...

some research labs and universities linked up does not a internet make.

So get off your high horse... What did Bush ever do? Oh right... Help Enron swindle billions, and get a Stadium for the Texas Rangers paid for by the tax-payers of Texas.

So Bush is no worse than almost all professional sports owner - big whoop.

And Gore did say he too initiative in "creating" the internet. That actually isn't a claim of invention, BUT it does imply that he, personally, installed the backbones, etc and ordered it all into place, which is not true. The infrastructure was built earlier. The problem with that statement is that he did not qualify it at all, it was made to improve image - and was a bad move to make.

While proof can be conjured up for Gore and the Rangers stadium, please do provide proof for Bush helping Enron swindle billions of dollars. Oh wait, you can't - you've made an unproven assertion there. No matter how you or I feel about Gore or Bush, it is best to argue about things we know instead of making unprovable claims about others. If you want to provide evidence to back that assertion, other than dislike or distrust for Bush, than do so.

As to Gore on the board, it doesn't bother me at all. I agree with other statements, that getting a VP on there can give connections that weren't there before. Plus, it's a good way to get on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc for free when he's brought on board. I wish him luck.

And I'm not a fan of Gore at all. Didn't vote for him, and never would BUT I would never let a move like this deter me from a product. I love Apples, plain and simple. I believe the Mac is a superior product and find it silly if anyone lets their political views switch them over because of this. Getting Gore is not a political move, at least not one that makes a statement. And now I can actually root for Gore, hoping he can make the company better in some way. Heck, I would've rooted for him if he was President too, because I support the country and the office - doesn't mean I'd approve of everything done, but I hate partisan politics with a passion. End rant.
 
Recount the hanging chads!

Uh... How about Bob Dole instead?
At least Bob has that pencil in his hand. Might be advantagous when Apple comes out with the "Tablet" Mac. Gee Wiz Steve..... Gore?

Well on the other hand, he must have a talent for something. It certainly wasn't in politics.......
 
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