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Just heard the news.

How completely inane the initial reactions were by posters, "...he DID invent the internet." How tiresome. How completely devoid of any understanding of the context that statement was made.

Shall we start a string about all the dumb romper room $h;t Bush ever said?

What's with the hostility toward Gore? After all, he did win the popular vote. Somebody out there must like him.
 
Originally posted by iThink
Well, I've said all I have to say on the matter. I'm not going to continue ranting and raving.

All I can say is that on every single Mac BBS site that I look at, an overwhelming 9 to 1 HATE the idea that Apple put Bore -- er, I mean, Gore -- on the board.

I will not buy another Apple product, period. I'm done. And a lot of other people won't either. It's not just this decision, it's because EVERY single Apple product I've owned for the past 18 months has had SERIOUS flaws and problems. Every single one of them. eMacs with raster shift problems that required multiple CRT replacements. Titaniums with chipping and peeling paint and cracking hinges. Power Macs with bad power supplies. Power Macs that sounded like jet engines. Cubes with cracking cases. And then Apple has the gall to charge for iTools just so that Steve can have a new 140 MILLION dollar jet or so he can lend his buddy at Apple 1.5 million to buy a new house.

Now I hear that the new 12-inch Powerbooks warp when they get hot and that people buying the 17-inch Powerbooks can't stand the smell (macintouch.com for those who want to check it out).

Steve Jobs is making bad decisions and I'm not paying for it anymore.

Good luck.

iThink if that's your last post then you won't be missed in the least. iThink that you're a mouthy child who can barely put together a coherent sentence. iThink you wouldn't know an informed opinion if one took a dump on your chest. iThink you're one of the louder morons I've ever encountered. Finally, iThink these forums will be better off withough people like you.
 
I want a recount from the Apple board of directors, I think that someone was counting a hanging chad as a vote for Gore. I want it in Florida with the some outcome as before.
 
Hey Iturd

Read the Constitution for the first time. People dont vote for president, States do. Your vote is the direction your state should vote. Popular votes mean diddly-squat.
Maybe they should give Gore a Plaque stating most populas votes by a candidate runnin in the 2000 election, and then he'd have that going for him.
 
Please!

Several points:

1) I'm a lifelong conservative and Mac owner. Whether Al Gore is on the board or not has nothing to do with whether conservatives will use Macs. After all, Bill Gates' dad is pushing for an inheritance tax! He's a lot more dangerous to my way of thinking than Al Gore.

2) Here's a quote worth pondering: "Gore played no positive role in the decisions that led to the creation of the Internet as it now exists -- that is, in the opening of the Internet to commercial traffic," said Steve Allen, vice president for communications at the conservative Progress and Freedom Foundation.

3) Conservatives like me love competition; ergo we love the Mac.

4) Conservatives are smarter; therefore we use Macs. 🙂

5) I think everybody understands he didn't literally say "I invented the Internet". What he did do was weasel-word an answer that he thought he could get away with that would leave the average watcher with the impression he did invent the Internet.

6) Isn't it cool the last three presidents use Macs?

7) And isn't it cool that Apple has a former Vice President on their boad, even if you don't like his politics?

8) I think most Mac zealots (like me) are Mac zealots because we're free thinkers and question authority (1984). Remember, Big Brother wasn't exactly a Republican, although a lot of people would like to paint him that way.

9) OT: So should I get a SCSI card, or a SCSI adapter?
 
Originally posted by iThink
I will not buy another Apple product, period. I'm done.
Go back to eating your freedom fries and lobbying to give back the statue of liberty on your PC. You won't be missed.

All I can say is that on every single Mac BBS site that I look at, an overwhelming 9 to 1 HATE the idea that Apple put Bore -- er, I mean, Gore -- on the board.

That's because most normal people go "hmm, that's nice." While the conservatives get into a tizzy because something of note happened with someone who doesn't subscribe to their idealogy.
Here, let me piss off the republicans some more...
Hilary! Hilary! Hilary!
 
Originally posted by iThink
OOOOOOOooooh! He uses "Final Cut Pro." Now THAT makes him qualified for the job?

No, the only thing that "qualifies" him for the job is the fact that he's an out-of-work, used-up, chad-counting has-been and Jobs is going to use him every way that he can to suck up to politicos.

I think you are intentionally missing my point, which does you no credit at all. I am trying to emphasize that the man cares about the platform and recognizes strong tech when he sees it. It shows that he's not just a name, but that he understands why the platform is important.

I suppose you are one of the 95% who still hasn't read the press release. The man is knee-deep in tech, making moves to bring the Net to classrooms. But I guess we can let North Korea remain at the head of the race for national connectivity. I think it was something like half of their population, when I was reading about their last election.

By the way, I really love the great, persuasive (read childish, thoughtless, inane BS) arguments that the majority of users have posted. Now I see why some of the people who have been here longer than me are so annoyed with some aspects of the community and it's users.

PS - So what if Steve uses Al's name to push Apple forward? He uses EVERYONE. If Steve can gain the support of more users through Al's reputation than what's your damn problem?

Dan
 
I want to see what SNL's going to do with this...!

I want to see what SNL is going to do with this! This is great! I'm sure we're going to get a good joke out of this one.

Bush is waging war.
Gore is minding the store.
What is Life for?


😀
 
one more thing

Yeah, the Mac products really suck -- so bad, that I've never had a significant problem with any of them (nothing that ever had to be shipped, in other words).

Does it strike any one else here there are a lot of Windows users jumping on as newbies who really want to do nothing but badmouth Macs? And actually don't want to take an even-handed look at anything?

Just a thought. 😛
 
Originally posted by iThink
Well, I've said all I have to say on the matter. I'm not going to continue ranting and raving.

I will not buy another Apple product, period. I'm done.

Good. Go away.
 
By the way...

By the way, I thought the Internet was around forever and a day before Gore took an active interest. Wasn't it under DARPA's control before they declassified it and allowed it to become what it is today?

So, in that case, Gore may be correct in that he "helped" to create the move that made the internet. But then again, who really cares?

RE: Apple's BOD
Who cares? Just give us the next chip, pretty please (with sugar on top!) and soon!

Thanks fer yer support!

😀
 
Originally posted by SPG
That's because most normal people go "hmm, that's nice." While the conservatives get into a tizzy because something of note happened with someone who doesn't subscribe to their idealogy.
Here, let me piss off the republicans some more...
Hilary! Hilary! Hilary!

good that you have an ideological ass on the republican side to pick on, but your generalization about conservatives is class A1 STUPID. there are zealots in every party. did you see the democrats in the house tonight? they freaking called bush a terrorist! the democrats are just as out of their minds, by the rules you're laying out.
 
Now isn't that the truth, Shadowfax?

I think that anyone who compares Bush to a terrorist is pathetic and should find another country to live in.

You people who oppose doing something to HELP the poor people of Iraq defend against a dictator like Saddam are pathetic.

Go to Salon.com and read the featured article there tonight, please. It's written by a democrat. It's extremely enlightening and it's titled, "See no evil." It's about people who would rather ignore the despicable atrocities happening and blame any action to prevent them on the person who is interceding in an attempt to help: President Bush.

Go to the Amnesty International site and see what terrible horrible things that Saddam Hussein has done to people. He is evil personified.

Really, please do enlighten yourselves and read that article before you do anything else because it is indeed eye-opening.
 
Sheesh... a new type of switch?

Well now I have a better reason for abandoning the Mac platform than slow processors and expensive machines.

Just being facetious. But I think it makes rather clear Steve Jobs' political leanings (not that he hasn't done this already).
 
Re: Re: Good God Please: NO!!!

Originally posted by simX
Let me first start off by saying, no, Gore did not lose the election. Gore got over half a million more votes than Bush did, yet our "democracy" dictates that Bush becomes the president. Furthermore, if Republicans HAD NOT DENIED MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN FLORIDA FROM VOTING, Gore would have won the election because of those votes. Last but not least, Gore actually DID get the majority of the votes in Florida, except the Supreme Court (in their infinite wisdom) blocked the recounts. The election was tainted because of these many issues, and our current "President" of the United States was not a "democratically" elected one.

Now for the quote above: give me a big fat freakin' break. You have not even given Al Gore one day on Apple's board of directors, and yet somehow you reach a conclusion based on mythical evidence that Gore will not be good for Apple's board. I'm not taking sides on this issue just yet, but don't we owe it to any human being to give them a chance before making judgment?

I don't care if you're a republican, democrat, a member of the Green party, or that mythical race called "compassionate conservatives". Sorry, I will not be convinced by your little whining rant on Al Gore that he is not a suitable director for Apple. Thanks, I'll let Gore have a chance.
now first of all let us remember that this thread is about al gore's appointment to the board of directors, and not about whether or not he was the rightful victor of the presidential election of 2000. I would, however, like to remind you that well after the Supreme Court blocked those hand recounts, the people were so sure that Gore had won that they continued to count them. They finished the re-re-hand count well into President Bush's term, and it remained that Bush was still thousands of votes ahead of Gore in that state.


This is in stark contrast to our current "President" of the United States, who has been given two years in office and he's ignoring what the people want by going to war. He's been given a chance, and so we have the right to make a judgment.
Poll after poll have shown that 60% of the American people support the war, 30% are against, and 10% are undecided. This was the same number before the second world war. The "against" number fell to 15% immediately after Pearl Harbor, but a year into the war it rose to 30% again. The entire country is not represented by the minority that disagrees.

I personally do not know how well Al Gore will do as a member of the Apple board. Personally, I'm conservative, but my political affiliations have nothing to do with whether Al Gore will lead Apple or not. Hopefully he'll do well - from what ThinkSecret reports, Apple put a lot into this decision. When it comes to a company's board of directors, if you told me that Stalin, Slobodon Malosovich (sp - its late), and Gerhard Schroeder (I know that's spelled wrong, right?) would be great for the board, I'd say haul them on over/dig them up from the grave, because I'd like to see Apple grow.

[edit] ah crap, i shouldn't trust the "view first unread post" deal... it put me straight to this post and i didn't realize that 4 pages had arisen after it...[/edit]
 
yeah pope spare me the 7th grade civics lesson.

Here, let me spell it out for you:

The point is that Bush didn't exactly win in a landslide, and the fact that Gore won the popular vote it can be surmised that there at least as many Gore voters as there are Bush ones regardless of what the electoral college may tell you.
 
go fsck yourselves!

Give me a break all you whiners. Virtually every corporate board for every company in the US is stacked with right wing Republican extremists and you can't handle that Apple appoints 1 very moderate democrat (who 30 years ago would have been considered a mainstream republican) to a relatively powerless position.

And people here are saying they won't buy any more Macs. Please! If I refrained from purchasing products from companies that had republicans on their boards I could never buy anything except maybe some fruit at the local farmers market. You rich right wing pigs run the world, and you're upset about this. You even got your insane war today and you're still upset.

go fsck yourselves!
 
Hey iThink, I thought you were leaving. Hadn't you best be getting along now?

Well if you simply must stay, I would request that you reserve posts like your last one for relevant threads in the political discussion forum only.

That said, I would really prefer it if you just left like you said you would. 🙄
 
Re: Re: Re: Good God Please: NO!!!

Originally posted by bobindashadows
now first of all let us remember that this thread is about al gore's appointment to the board of directors, and not about whether or not he was the rightful victor of the presidential election of 2000. I would, however, like to remind you that well after the Supreme Court blocked those hand recounts, the people were so sure that Gore had won that they continued to count them. They finished the re-re-hand count well into President Bush's term, and it remained that Bush was still thousands of votes ahead of Gore in that state.

Uh no, they actually found that if all the votes statewide had been recounted, including the optical ballots that were discarded because people wrote in Gore on top of circling the bubble, Gore won by a bit. That's not even taking into account the Palm Beach ballot fiasco, blacks being harassed, and thousands of illegal military ballots with no signatures and no indication they were filled out prior to the end of election day. Among the people who turned out to vote and tried to vote, Gore won Florida by several thousand votes. A few million more went to Nader, who was further to the left, indicating that a left of center landslide took place in 2000, but Bush was appointed anyway by a court where several of the justices had family members who were directly involved in the Bush campaign.

It was the con of the century!
 
Iturd

Well we at least know that you made it to 7th grade. A loss in overtime is still a loss. Stop your whining and support your President which ever party he's from.
 
Algoreithms

No, no, no. Get it right. Al Gore didn't invent the internet. He invented Algoreithms! Hey, it would make more sense. Al Gore. Algorithms. Okay, bad joke, but one comes up with some silly stuff when bored off your a$$ in a theory of computation or algorithms class.

However, if I had known he was a Mac user, I would have voted for him (no, I didn't vote for Bush, either! So don't blame me that he's an idiot!). But not like it would have mattered since America is screwed up and has a screwed up system of voting. Go figure...Al Gore had the majority of votes, YET he lost. Now look what has happened. Maybe if Al Gore had become President, Microsoft would have been broken up, gas prices wouldn't be at an all-time high in the States, and America wouldn't look like some evil, warmongering country which is trying to take over the world.
 
robguz

Are you on crack? Someday when you move out of your parents house and get a job and pay taxes, you'll feel ashamed of the misguided views of your youth. And NO, protesting infront of the G8 summit in Seattle, or sitting is a tree in a California for a year to stop it from getting hurt by a chain saw is not a job.
 
Re: robguz

Originally posted by pope
Are you on crack? Someday when you move out of your parents house and get a job and pay taxes, you'll feel ashamed of the misguided views of your youth. And NO, protesting infront of the G8 summit in Seattle, or sitting is a tree in a California for a year to stop it from getting hurt by a chain saw is not a job.

Not trying to pick a fight here, pope, so please spare me the venom. I'm just wondering what any of the things you just said had to do with the claims robguz made. Maybe you shouldn't have attacked him personally when he presented what he believed to be facts. I'd save that sort of flame for an uninformed opinion. You know, something like one of iThink's posts. You can disagree with him all you like, but you'd be better served by simply refuting his claims. Again, just some friendly advice. 🙂
 
Originally posted by iTurd
Yeah pope you're right about one thing, I did make it at least to 7th grade...and didn't stop until I earned two advanced degrees.

The only thing I'm whining about is why your parents didn't abort your Christian Coalition a$$ when they had the chance.

PLEASE moderate as abusive flamebait.
 
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