count me in on that... if the apps were starting instantaneously, the watch would be twice as usefull, really! It would be so awesome..
I just compared some native apps to the old ones on my watch and they both seem equally slow!
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I just compared some native apps to the old ones on my watch and they both seem equally slow!
I think this is very likely. The refresh rate for the Apple Watch is near. I know Macrumors reported 'Consumer Exhaustion' launching next to the iPhone 7. I'm not exhausted, I'm ready for it! Loving my Gen 1, but ready to upgrade.
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I think you will find out what the market will look like when Apple Watch 2 is announced and everyone who has Gen 1 will say "Time to sell Gen 1 on EBay." They are dripping in value though.
I agree.
90% of what's lacking on the Apple Watch is software related, though I could say the same thing about three iPad as well, lol.
Hopefully, these improvements can be made with Watch OS 3. The Apps are certainly better than OS 1 with the exception of OS 2. Perhaps with the integration of the S2 chip.
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It's nice to hear a Macrumors member accept the Watch is not for you. Clearly your mileage may vary. For those who enjoy using the Watch and come to the realization things will/can improve, I will continue to upgrade, as all Gen 1 products evolve. Time for you to move on.
I think so. Possible unveiling at WWDC to build the hype? And launching next to iPhone 7 in September is my educated guess.
Short notice but if they weren't already doing this then their app was probably pretty crappy to begin with.
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This is good news but native apps are still pretty slow. It's going to take new hardware and maybe faster bluetooth. Hopefully Watch OS 3 will be completely native, even if just on the new model, which will hopefully come with 16GB of storage for the bigger app files. I'd like to see a more efficient S2 with 1GB of RAM, faster graphics to minimize UI lag, and a newer BT spec, such as 4.2, which a quick search tells me is 2.5 times faster and more energy efficient than the 4.0 spec the current watch uses. And iPhone 6 and newer already uses BT 4.2, so those users would see faster data transfers when fetching information from their phone right away.
Neither device will replace the other. What I want is a high degree of overlap between the two devices because it offers a huge benefit: CONVENIENCE! With a LTE Apple Watch, I can just take my Bluetooth headset with me for short excursions outside the home without my phone. It will not be an everyday phone but an every now and then phone.
I guess Apple is annoyed at the lack of interesting apps, and developers don't see it as as much of a platform as they hoped. But I am just guessing....I can't see a downside causing delays in app developers updating their apps
No...!
September is too long! I'm hoping apple will avoid having a watch and a phone coming out at the same time because that's a lot of $$$$ to be forcing people to shell out.
With native apps, a better processor and a bit more independence this next watch could be sweet.
I would like to see some form of separation of sales between the Watch 2 and iPhone 7. I agree this is a lot of money for consumers. It was reported the Watch 2 would start mass production through Quanta-Foxconn mid this Summer. If this is accurate, then Fall would be the likely release for the Watch. There is no doubt Apple will pursue having the Watch out before The Holidays are here. Time will tell.
I'm really surprised at the lack of apps for the Apple Watch. I thought for sure they're would some awesome new apps on this new device. I guess I sorta saw it as a new platform in a way.
You're right on the production theory. I just hope you're wrong on the timing. I think after WWDC if there's no new watch I'll buy a dirty cheap interim used gen 1.
WatchOS is reportedly small comparing with iOS. Maybe around 100MB? I don't have a watch at hand so this is my pure guess.
But if my assumption is correct, then watch apps are also equally small. They don't need complex and fancy textures and high-res pictures, and many elements they will use may be pushed by system itself, rather than integrating to app. Again, my pure guess. But storage would not be a real problem on watch like it is on iPhone.
I am waiting for them to tie two factor security in via the watch. I think it would be a killer app, consider cases like relaxing your pin/touchid requirement of the watch is on and the phone is close to you (high Rssi via BLE), resetting only when you go out of the range threshold or when you take the watch off. Also if the phone is accessed or goes out of range a prominent and unique haptic feedback would let you know if someone is messing with the phone without you knowing. There are so many sweet security features that come about because the device is literally attached to you I'm sure Apple would come up with many others 
Just in case you don't know..there are 2 apps in App Store doing this: Unhand Me! and Lookout.
Watch extensions will still work, but new submissions to the app store need to be native.
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Why would removing the slowest part of the watch mean something faster is coming?
Well obviously new watches are coming, but what kind of time frame are you talking about? At WWDC? A new watch won't be dropped at WWDC because they won't launch a new watch without watchOS 3, and the lack of a watchOS 3 beta tells me that a new watch is at least a few months out.
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I agree, the watch does not need a lot of storage. Mine says it has a capacity of 6.1 GB and I have 5 GB available. Thats with pictures, some music, and a load of apps installed on my watch. Thing using the most storage is messages at 58MB.
If it wasn't ready, it should not have shipped. *cue quotes about Steve's perfectionism*
Not sure about the WWDC part, but that seems like a plausible explanation.
I don't believe complete iPhone independence will come with v2, but when it eventually does as I'm convinced it will, it'll propel the
Watch adoption rate like nothing else.
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This timing makes those theories about Apple involvement in this weekend's Best Buy sale suddenly seem more credible...