All iCloud Services Down for Some Users [Update: Fixed]

[clibinarius]

I am (still) having problems accessing my iCloud email with Mail on Yosemite PB3.
There's no problem on my iPhone or via browser.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Having the same problem on Mavericks.

 

[Ciclismo]

I had an interesting error message during the outage - it said that I had upgraded my iCloud storage and that it was no longer compatible with Mavericks, so it asked me to update to Yosemite.

 

[webbuzz]

Absolutely, positively not. The Cloud IS the backup. The instant that the Cloud becomes unreliable or unavailable is the instant it loses its value.

We may think that losing access to iCloud for just a little while is really no big deal. For individual consumers, that is most often the case.

Why not quote my entire post?

Everyone should have a backup of their cloud, regardless of provider. I use OneDrive on my laptop, my iCloud Drive syncs to that, and that is all synced with an external drive weekly.

Financial, health, and other sensitive data are backed up on two IronKey drives(each at different locations).

As a consumer if iCloud, or any other provider, is your sole source backup, then you don't get it. My point was not if the service goes down. But, to preserve data, if it is lost.

But Apple wants to play in the big time with Google, Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, and the rest of the major Cloud players, where companies put billions of dollars worth of enterprise data into their Cloud environments. Apple better get their act together before they get run out of that town. Coupled with their recent security issues, this kind of outage is amateur hour.

Again, my point was not a service outage, it was preservation of data and redundancy. How many outages has AWS had in the last few years? Quite a few times and it cost clients millions.

Do you think enterprise clients rely on a single source for data storage?

Speaking of amateur hour.

 

[Trapezoid]

Absolutely, positively not. The Cloud IS the backup. The instant that the Cloud becomes unreliable or unavailable is the instant it loses its value.

We may think that losing access to iCloud for just a little while is really no big deal. For individual consumers, that is most often the case. But Apple wants to play in the big time with Google, Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, and the rest of the major Cloud players, where companies put billions of dollars worth of enterprise data into their Cloud environments. Apple better get their act together before they get run out of that town. Coupled with their recent security issues, this kind of outage is amateur hour.

All of the named companies experience outages.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/26...3-The-worst-cloud-outages-of-2013-so-far.html

You can Google all the outages in 2014, if you're interested. Kind of ridiculous to expect they have 100% uptime.

 

[paul55br]

Very rarely this happens. And when it does Apple is right on it to fix it. No worries for me.

 

[lockerc18]

Why not quote my entire post?



As a consumer if iCloud, or any other provider, is your sole source backup, then you don't get it. My point was not if the service goes down. But, to preserve data, if it is lost.



Again, my point was not a service outage, it was preservation of data and redundancy. How many outages has AWS had in the last few years? Quite a few times and it cost clients millions.

Do you think enterprise clients rely on a single source for data storage?

Speaking of amateur hour.

You miss my point.

The "promise" of Cloud is that companies can get out of making huge investments in data centers and pay a Cloud provider for that instead. By and large, companies do not have computing as their core competency, yet they have to make huge investments in it to run their businesses. Their expectation is that Cloud will assume all the ITIL/ITSM load that they currently have to pay for themselves, and can make computing a utility just like electricity. And it will all "just work", and will continue to "just work" without loss of data or availability.

But today's "reality" of Cloud is quite different, as we're seeing here. No large company will put the entirety of their computing / data environments into the Cloud now, because they don't trust it. And they don't want to abdicate control over their corporate jewels to some amorphous Cloudie, either, because they know they can get better reliability, performance, security, and availability with their own data centers just like they always have. And the cost of Cloud is no great bargain, either. Companies run data centers as cost centers, but Cloud providers run theirs as profit centers.

Apple has always made themselves out to be the best at innovation and creativity, but that's been within the consumer market. They are clearly not the premier cloud provider in the Enterprise space. But they are investing in partnerships with IBM now, with other companies in the pipeline, to get into the Enterprise application space, and Cloud is a big part of that. So, my statement is that they need to get a heck of a lot better at Cloud if they want to be viable there.

And if forecasts are to be believed, Apple could ship well over 200 million iPhones next year, and they will all need iCloud in one form or another to take advantage of the sharing and continuity features in IOS8 and Yosemite and future releases. That represents a HUGE amount of data. And if they can't manage it for their own offerings, who can trust them to manage it for other companies, and Apple is toast. Cloud is the cornerstone for Apple's future, and people here don't seem to realize that. So Apple needs to get it right, and it doesn't look like they're doing that.