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For me Macro Photography is the most important feature,and for this alone I’ll be upgrading my aging XS Max to 13 Pro Max.(I’m not interested in non Pro iPhones in any case scenario)

I really wanted this feature that Samsung already has in S21 Ultra,but my hopes weren’t high,so a pleasant surprise.

now if it had 5x periscope zoom it would have been awesome (S21 Ultra has 10x periscope/optical zoom,Note 20 Ultra has 5x) but I think 3x on iPhone 13 Pro is still a decent upgrade from past models.
 
What do you all think about this new “Ceramic Shield” glass. You think screen protectors are gonna be needed still? And if screen protectors are still needed, anyone have a specific one they’d get? Thanks!
Fwiw, my 6s and Xs only had the Apple leather case on them, and despite several drops (even a couple face down on concrete/asphalt), my glass is pristine though six total years of usage.
 
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For me Macro Photography is the most important feature,and for this alone I’ll be upgrading my aging XS Max to 13 Pro Max.(I’m not interested in non Pro iPhones in any case scenario)

I really wanted this feature that Samsung already has in S21 Ultra,but my hopes weren’t high,so a pleasant surprise.

now if it had 5x periscope zoom it would have been awesome (S21 Ultra has 10x periscope/optical zoom,Note 20 Ultra has 5x) but I think 3x on iPhone 13 Pro is still a decent upgrade from past models.
I remember you saying you wanted this. Close up shots certainly suffer on 12 pro max
 
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Essentially this is an S upgrade. There is a reason why Apple discontinued the 12 Pro/12 Pro Max. People would save money on the 2020 models rather see value in buying the 13 Pro/13 Pro Max. The did not want to cannibalize the 13's sales.
 
According to The Sun (if you believe that) it does. It’s called “space mode”…


The sun is a dog turd of a news paper. Nothing they put out is really trustworthy.

Who cares about astrophotography... Practically nobody. So I couldn't care less if the new phones had them or not.
just cos you don’t care, doesn’t mean it’s ‘practically nobody’. There’s quite a lot in this thread. What a pointless post you made lol
 
No astrophotography. I was hoping it would be there.

This doesn’t count?

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"3x optical zoom in, 2x optical zoom out; 6x optical zoom range"

What does the 6x actually mean....I thought it would be 3x, since that is the optical zoom in.
 
"3x optical zoom in, 2x optical zoom out; 6x optical zoom range"

What does the 6x actually mean....I thought it would be 3x, since that is the optical zoom in.
I guess, guessing here, 6x is the amount of zoom you’ll get from ultra wide to telephoto on the Pro.
 
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"3x optical zoom in, 2x optical zoom out; 6x optical zoom range"

What does the 6x actually mean....I thought it would be 3x, since that is the optical zoom in.
Basically means from ultra wide all the way to the telephoto max zoom. It’s basically 3x as it’s used in most terms
 
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The camera looks great , I was saying the 1tb seemed ridiculous but if You do a lot of 4K video it’ll fill up soon enough

You can get it over 24 months interest free so going for the tricked out max pro is a no brainer imo
 
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With the launch of the iPhone 13 mini, iPhone 13, iPhone 13 Pro, and iPhone 13 Pro Max, Apple introduced several updated camera features, some of which are hardware based and some of which are software based.

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Notably, the iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max now have identical camera systems, a departure from the different cameras featured in the iPhone 12 Pro and the 12 Pro Max. As usual, the iPhone 13 Pro models have the best camera systems, while the more affordable iPhone 13 models have step-down cameras that lack some of the Pro capabilities.

iPhone 13 and 13 mini Camera Specs

The iPhone 13 and 13 mini feature a dual-lens camera system. The Wide lens features an f/1.6 aperture, while the Ultra Wide features an f/2.4 aperture. The updated Ultra Wide camera offers better low light performance, and the updated Wide camera lets in 47 percent more light.

There is no Telephoto lens in the iPhone 13 and 13 mini, so these models are limited to 2x optical zoom out and digital zoom up to 5x.

Sensor-shift optical image stabilization, a feature once limited to the Pro models, is available across the iPhone 13 lineup.
iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max Camera Specs

The iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max include a three-lens camera system with an f/2.8 Telephoto lens, an f/1.5 Wide lens, and an f/1.8 Ultra Wide lens.

The Wide and Ultra Wide lenses are upgraded compared to the lenses in the iPhone 13 models and should result in notably better performance in low light conditions. The Wide lens features a wider aperture that lets in 2.2x more light and the largest sensor in an iPhone yet.

The Ultra Wide lens captures up to 92 percent more light, which should bring a drastic improvement in quality.

The 77mm Telephoto lens features 3x optical zoom in, up from 2.5x in the 12 Pro Max, and with the addition of the Ultra Wide lens at 2x zoom out, there is a 6x optical zoom range and support for 15x digital zoom.

There's also a LiDAR Scanner, which is not available on the iPhone 13 and 13 mini.

New Camera Features for All iPhones

Apple introduced several new features that take advantage of the more advanced image signal processor included in the A15 chip.
  • Cinematic Mode - Uses rack focus to seamlessly shift the focus from one subject to another when capturing video. It holds focus on the subject while blurring the background, and can automatically change the focus when a new subject is about to enter the scene. Blur and focus can be adjusted after capturing video as well through the Photos app.
  • Smart HDR 4 - Recognizes up to four people in a scene and optimizes contrast, lighting, and even skin tones for each person so everyone looks their best.
  • Photographic Styles - Photographic Styles are smart, adjustable filters that can do things like boost or mute colors without affecting skin tone. Styles apply selectively to an image, unlike a filter that's applied to the entire image. Photographic Styles include Vibrant (boosts colors), Rich Contrast (darker shadows and deeper colors), Warm (accentuates golden undertones), or Cool (accentuates blue undertones). Tone and Warmth are customizable for each style, so you can get the exact look that you want.
Existing camera capabilities like Night Mode, Portrait Mode, Portrait Lighting, and Deep Fusion are also supported.

Pro Camera Features

There are several features that are limited to the Pro models and that won't be available on the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 mini.
  • Macro Photography - The Ultra Wide camera on the Pro models can focus at 2cm, which makes it ideal for macro photos. You can take macro photos or macro videos, including slow motion and time-lapse.
  • Telephoto Night Mode - Night Mode is available for the Telephoto lens for the first time. Night Mode is available on all the Pro cameras.
  • Night Mode Portraits - Night Mode portraits require the LiDAR Scanner, which continues to be limited to Pro models.
  • Telephoto Cinematic Mode - Since the Pro models are the only models with a Telephoto lens, Telephoto Cinematic Mode is a pro feature. It works with the Wide, Telephoto, and TrueDepth cameras.
  • ProRes - ProRes, which is coming later this year, lets users record and edit in ProRes or Dolby Vision.

Article Link: All of the New iPhone 13 Camera Features: Macro, Cinematic Mode, Photographic Styles, Sensor Improvements and More
Needs macro on all lenses and x10 optical zoom not x3. Baby steps. And for love of god can we can f’ing image size bump from 12mp. Let’s crease some fatass 64mp images that can be cropped in useful way. Digital zoom needs to just go away forever.
 
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iPhone 14 Pro unique color will be baby pink, plus the black will change shade slightly. The notch will be the same width but 20% shorter. Cinematic video will support 4k30 and 1080p60. All other rumors in the next year will again be false to expose leaks.
I am not sure about that, however, I am predicting that it will be A16 bionic chip with faster GPU and faster CPU with a possibility of additional cores :)
 
Let’s crease some fatass 64mp images that can be cropped in useful way.
I want to see a spherical sensor, ~180º. Record it all, then pan to the actual subject for a proper rectangular framing afterwards. Enough of these "camera bobbing & weaving" and "the subject is half out of the frame most of the time" bad shots (still and video). Apple seems heading in that direction with their wide angles, subject tracking, and computational photography - am eagerly anticipating getting there already.
 
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Why is no one pointing out that strands of hair look like a blurry mess when cinema mode is enabled, especially in the first shot. This phone is perfect if you have an all-bald cast.

Just once (once!) I'd like Apple to demo its shallow-depth-of-field fakery using people with REAL HAIR, rather than actors and models who are bald, wearing tight caps, or sporting perfectly tight or slick-and-flat hairstyles. The softballs they lob to the algorithm are pretty misleading: when we get these phones out into the real world where there's real hair (and sometimes real wind blowing it around), the depth-map cuts never look very good.

didn’t seem to be a problem in Apples presentation with the guy with the Afro ;)
 
A tiny camera with a tiny lens and sensor is never going to collect enough light in a reasonable amount of time to be useful for astrophotography. Physics just won’t allow it. If you compare a typical smartphone sensor coupled to a 12mm f/1.8 (full frame equivalent lens, actually it is only about 1.9mm focal length due to tiny sized camera) to an actual full frame camera 12mm f/1.8 lens, the full frame lens lets in 39x more light. Imagine looking through a pinhole in a piece of cardboard and comparing that to looking through 1 inch hole in another piece of cardboard. You will see a lot more light looking through the much larger hole. Same thing with cameras. The bigger the hole (aperture opening) the more light that will make it to the sensor. These tiny smartphone lenses just don’t let in enough light. The phone can compensate a little bit through artificially brightening the image through in-camera processing, but not that much, and what they do via this processing lowers the over all image quality. It sounds good in their BS marketing blurbs, but in reality smartphone cameras are terrible in low light situations. If they ever bump the sensor size up to a 1” sensor, then they will be much better, but then the lenses will need to be a lot bigger. So I doubt we will ever see smartphone cameras that do well in low light.

Google says otherwise with smart algorithm. And, this is on a midrange device and why everyone is looking forward to what Google can achieve with good hardware like the upcoming Pixel 6 Pro.

 
iPhones are in very active use already in the industry (as publishers of a video player we have clients in the business) . From the iPhone 11 video quality in good light is amazing, including rock solid stabilisation. The OIS is already more than good enough as careful head to head testing comparing the iPhone 11 Pro Max (OIS) vs iPhone 12 Pro Max (IBIS) has borne out. The wide angle lens is much better on the iPhone 13 Pro, which is a nice improvement for those who use it (many filmmakers do in industrial and personal projects).

Im hesitant to open the link. “Head to head” testing huh? Your clients? Lol. Not my cup of tea but couldn’t resist the joke.

agreed on filmmakers using smartphones. This trend is growing every year.
 
Im hesitant to open the link. “Head to head” testing huh? Your clients? Lol. Not my cup of tea but couldn’t resist the joke.

agreed on filmmakers using smartphones. This trend is growing every year.
Well, I've seen several head-to-head stabilisation tests (and I've done such ones between the Samsung S7 Edge and the iPhone 6s+, both being brand new and top-of-the-line models back in early 2016); indeed iPhones have always had the best OIS, almost gimbal-like, stabilizators for video.
 
OK, then, please go to 00:48:11 in the video and explain why the annotated individual hairs etc. are completely in focus, while the rest of the hair is completely defocused and inseparable? This is just a static shot crop; if you zoom in the video, you can see the "focus" (that is, the software "cinematic" effect) behaving very strangely. A real camera with real focus racking would never do something like this.

All in all, this is everything but pro, just like the photo "Portrait" mode.

EDIT: just started a dedicated thread on this at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-13-pro-cinematic-mode-being-pro-grade-bad-joke.2310995/
Best way to tell us by zooming in and if it looks like it is washed out then it is pretty much garbage. When zooming in zoom on a display like the iPad Pro this is so you really know where good or shi* quality comes in from
 
I’m looking forward to how these new features mature but any video mode that doesn’t support 4k60 effectively doesn’t exist to me.
 
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